Marvel UKPVs - Thorpe & Porter Indicias (June 1960 ~ November 1964)

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Marvel UKPVs - Thorpe & Porter Indicias (June 1960 ~ November 1964)

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Here is a summary of the Thorpe & Porter Indicias that I have found hiding in Marvels between the dates of June 1960 and November 1964 inclusive. If you'd like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the discussion threads in which we talk about them (it's the Marvel Pence Variants thread):

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Notes and Observations

Most people with a passing interest in pence copies will know that the early 1960's Marvels had regional UK indicias in them noting that the book in question had been "Printed exclusively for Thorpe & Porter Ltd", a UK based publisher responsible for the distributing the majority of US comics in the UK. The common assumption is that all pence books had them. During my research into pence copies and US price font variations I began to collect examples of the various different types of Thorpe & Porter indicia wording to see if they had any bearing on, or link to, the 'missing' pence copies. As well as finding that link, I discovered five different types of Thorpe & Porter indicia, some telling phases and even a period with Thorpe & Porter indicias in cents priced copies! 

Thorpe & Porter indicias first appear in issues cover dated June 1960 and make their last appearance in issues cover dated November 1964. Here are the five known types, with the cover date periods of the books you can expect to find them in:

 

Type 1 - Found in Marvel Comics cover dated June 1960 to August 1960 and October 1960

The Type 1 indicia format is characterised by a large lower-case font T&P distribution detail with the regular US details absent

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(There are no UK regional Thorpe & Porter indicias found in any US distributed 10c priced issues for this time period)

 

Type 2 - Found in Marvel Comics cover dated September 1960 only

The Type 2 indicia format is characterised by a large upper-case font T&P distribution detail set below the regular US details

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(There are no UK regional Thorpe & Porter indicias found in any US distributed 10c priced issues for this time period)

 

Type 3 - Found in Marvel Comics cover dated November 1960 and December 1960

The Type 3 indicia format is characterised by a large lower-case font T&P distribution detail set below the regular US details

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(There are no UK regional Thorpe & Porter indicias found in any US distributed 10c priced issues for this time period)

 

Type 4 - Found in Marvel Comics cover dated January 1961 to April 1961

The Type 4 indicia format is characterised by a small upper-case font T&P distribution detail set immediately following the regular US details

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*** UK regional Thorpe & Porter indicias found in US distributed 10c cover priced issues cover dated January to April for issues which have corresponding pence copies ***

 

Type 5 - Found in Marvel Comics cover dated September 1961 to November 1964

The Type 5 indicia format is characterised by a small upper-case font T&P distribution detail set below the regular US details

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(There are no UK regional Thorpe & Porter indicias found in any US distributed 10c priced issues for this time period)

 

Thorpe & Porter indicias do not appear in all UK Price Variant books in the May 1960 to November 1964 period:

  • The expected Type 1 indicia does not appear in the first pence priced Marvel book, Journey into Mystery #58, dated May 1960. This book has the same standard indicia as its US counterpart. This is odd, given that the only other pence priced May 1960 book - Gunsmoke Western #58 - has a regional 'L Miller & Co' indicia. So Len Miller got a regional indicia printed for his pence book, but Thorpe & Porter did not, starting instead with their June 1960 issues
  • I have found no regional T&P indicias in pence or cents copies cover dated May 1961 to August 1961 inclusive
  • I have found one September 1961 dated pence book which does not have the expected 'Type 5' T&P indicia - Kid Colt Outlaw #100 which has a standard US indicia
  • I have found no regional T&P indicias in any book cover dated December 1964 onwards. Due to a gap in the production of pence copies, the last know T&P indicia in a pence copy is dated November 1964. Pence copies recommenced from August 1965, priced at 10d and with standard US indicias in all copies

Other notable observations:

  • Journey into Mystery #60 is the only known 9d UKPV book cover dated September 1960 and has its own unique indicia with the word ‘Thorpe’ misspelled as ‘Thorp’
  • Journey into Mystery #63 bucks the overall trend for its period by having a Type 4 indicia in both pence and cents copies when it should have a Type 3 (there are always exceptions!)
  • All Type 4 / Period 4 books have regional T&P indicias in both pence and cents copies but only where a UKPV copy exists - the other US distributed 10c copies which do not have a corresponding UKPV have standard US indicias. The only exception is Journey into Mystery #67 which has a standard US indicia in both copies
  • Every Type 1-4 exception is a JIM!

Finally, here are the seven time periods covered by my summary document which show all the books produced by Marvel - both cents and pence - and what I have found to be in them (there are still a handful of book contents to confirm, so the odd tweak may be necessary at some point):

 

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So, not everyone's cup of tea I'm guessing but I don't think you'll find this information anywhere else online. It's an interesting period in comic production and, if nothing else, is helpful in determining which pence books may / may not exist (see discussion thread!)

For those that noted the references to L Miller, those indicias details can be found here

And if the early distribution of US comics to the UK interests you in general, you might enjoy my thread here:

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Have fun :)

29/09/20

By Stephen Cranch based on v1.9 of the 'Marvel UKPVs -Thorpe & Porter Indicia Summary'

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