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KING of JOKERS

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  1. Hey, I'll ask again the experts here. Anyone know the first comic appearance of the following

     

    Yosemite Sam

    Tweety and Sylvester

    Road Runner and Coyote (I think this is the RR Four Color but I don't know if he showed up earlier in LTMM)

     

    Other minor characters

     

    Michigan P Frog

    Marvin the Martian

    Foghorn

     

    OK, you get the theme I think. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

     

     

    I own one of them ... Four Color 406 - 1st appearance of Tweety and Sylvester

    also recognized by OS and CGC as Tweety and Sylvester #1

     

    - Hank

     

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  2. 1952 - 1st appearance of Tweety and Sylvester

     

    Four Color 406. One of my favorite cartoons.

     

    - Hank

     

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    So you out bid me on this one last year. Sorry to run up the price, but it really didn't go that high.

     

    Ed

     

    Sorry Ed :sorry:.... tweety was my favorite growing up.

     

    I put in an extremely obscene bid where someone would have said 'suffering succotash' if they would outbid me :cry:

     

    - Hank

  3. My favorite Bat Mite cover with the cover art and color composition. I've own this one several times in the past but never a high grade copy. Underrated book in high grade. One of two in 9.0 and only a single 9.2 on this planet better.

     

    Paid way over overstreet for it but will work overtime for Bat-Mite :juggle:

    -Hank

     

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    Detective Comics #276 is a very tough book but well worth chasing down!

    Thought you might be interested to see the other CGC 9.0 copy:

     

     

    DetectiveComics276.jpg

     

    Steelcity .... that's for posting my twin. - Hank

  4. My favorite Bat Mite cover with the cover art and color composition. I've own this one several times in the past but never a high grade copy. Underrated book in high grade. One of two in 9.0 and only a single 9.2 on this planet better.

     

    Paid way over overstreet for it but will work overtime for Bat-Mite :juggle:

    -Hank

     

    DET_276.jpg

  5. well these particular ones as bill has previously said are the crescent city copies. The #1 there graded a cgc 9.4 IIRC when it was slabbed. Great collection, but should be included in the census already

     

    Bronty, so are you saying that those crescent city copies are indeed CGC graded but NOT in the CGC census ? and if so, how does that happen ?

     

    - Hank

  6. Heritage has an outstanding run of WDCS in their next auction, but I think it is a good idea for people to wonder if there are other top quality books that haven't been graded. Being an older collector, I personally know some other older collectors who are not fond of CGC because they feel it is a tool for investors rather than collectors. Accordingly, they have never submitted their books for grading.

    For example, my old friend, Leonard Brown, was one of those people. When he finally asked me to sell his collection for him about 10-15 years ago, they contained many of the finest known copies when they were ultimately submitted to CGC, and he didn't have that many books. Attached is a picture of his collection sitting on my table to show Bill Ponseti, who only had to see them once to buy them with a few of his friends. The picture also includes his WDC+S #1-3, which were magnificent--#2 looks a little washed out but that is from the flash.

    I mention this today because of the discussion of the status of the books in the upcoming Heritage auction. If this were 1995, for example, you would not know that these books existed. And I can assure you that there are some other very nice Disney books in particular that some older collectors have that have not been graded by CGC--in fact, I have a few myself. So when you bid on or buy any book, or any item for that matter, remember the oldest warning in the marketplace: CAVEAT EMPTOR!

    Richard

     

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    Richard, thanks for the info and the pics. :)

     

    Now you really have me all screwed up as to what to do when HA bidding goes live. (shrug)

     

    - Hank

  7. Who knows? Without better information into what lurks in Geppi's vaults (which I note that he's not obligated to disclose), there are a few possible scenarios:

     

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    The point is that like most things in life, it's a calculated gamble. At the end of the day, all you have to do is ask yourself 2 questions:

     

    1. How badly do I want the book?

     

    2. What is the most I'm willing to pay for the book?

     

    And then bid and let the chips fall where they may. Don't fall victim to "paralysis by over-analysis".

     

    I agree with all you say. What I fear has been missing is a realistic understanding of the known supply and associated risks among the collectors that have started in the last 10 years. The run that is listed at Heritage is clearly exceptional, but there is some risk that it is not as exceptional as you would be led to believe without detailed knowledge of the market in the 70s and early 80s. I may be bidding on some of the books myself, but I am factoring in this risk in my bids. My main concern is the long term stability of the market for these books: I would like to continue to have a stable supply for many years to come. A couple of years ago, I posted my concern for the record prices that were being paid for higher grades, especially a lot of the so-so material from the Crippen collection. A bubble is not healthy in any context and I am concerned to see books like the WDCS 43, which sold for $8,300 in 2007, relisted so quickly. Honestly, I can't see it selling for more than a tiny fraction of that today. Still, results like this may create an inflated and unrealistic picture of what these books are worth. Steadily growing prices would be much healthier long term.

     

    One funny aspect of this, which Transplant alluded to, is that the staff at Gemstone is reading these boards and could very easily post a statement from Geppi or Snyder if they wanted to share their knowledge. They are certainly not required to do so, but I don't see how anyone could disagree that this has relevance for someone who might be thinking about bidding into 6 figures for the February run at Heritage. The apparently deliberate reluctance to provide transparency constitutes a further risk that is affecting my own bids. Consequently, I doubt I will win anything this time. If Geppi would share his knowledge about how rare these books really are, I would absolutely, no question, bid higher.

     

    Just for the record, I am not trying to scare anyone away by spreading rumors. The warehouse finds I am referring to are coming from multiple reliable sources and several extremely knowledgeable collectors have told me that they've avoided high grade Dells because of the risks ("Timely" has said so on the boards, for example). For some reason, this seems to be a strangely hot potato among both collectors and dealers and very few people want to talk about it publicly.

     

     

    The apparently deliberate reluctance to provide transparency constitutes a further risk that is affecting my own bids. Consequently, I doubt I will win anything this time. If Geppi would share his knowledge about how rare these books really are, I would absolutely, no question, bid higher. - tb

     

    tb: This is exactly how I feel. Especially the last sentence.

     

     

  8. Here's a little press release in CGC's newsletter which nicely summarizes how staggering the WDCS run on Heritage really is. It was also cool realizing that I had previously owned one of the two 9.6s from 1-80 that was not featured in this auction.

     

    Best-Ever Run of Walt Disney's Comics and Stories in February 26–28 Heritage Auction

     

    CGC's highest-graded copy of almost every Walt Disney's Comics and Stories issue from 1940 through the mid-1950s will be auctioned without reserve in Heritage Auction Galleries’ February Signature Comic and Comic Art auction, the Dallas-based firm announced.

     

    – 122 different issues from #2 through #188 will be offered.

     

    – Almost every one has the highest grade CGC has ever certified for a given issue, and some are the highest by a wide margin.

     

    – To date, CGC has certified a total of ten individual copies in the #s 1–80 issue range to be 9.6 (there is no 9.8 in that range). Of the ten copies, eight are offered in this auction.

     

    – The auction includes a total of two 9.8 copies, 23 certified 9.6, 40 certified 9.4, and 19 certified 9.2.

     

     

    tth2:

     

    Despite the HA press release, the only thing that keeps me from agressively spending 'like there is no tomorrow' on these is the fear that the rumored better copies in a warehouse or Geppi's collection has yet to be slabbed (and when they do, those will be the highest grade).

     

    Anyone else share the same concerns ?

     

    - Hank