Flex Mentallo

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    Love it - just stay away from the Super-Mysterys until I finish my run. :baiting:

     

    :eek: Too late for that. :foryou:

     

    ps: How about showing off some of that Super Mystery run :baiting:

     

    Oh great more competition ;) Here's my graded issues. I have just a couple more that are raw so still a long way to go for a complete run. I try to pick these up as I find them and can afford them in between by Nedor runs.

     

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    This low grader was my first foray into SMs.

     

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    Purchased this one from Mr. Parker here on the boards raw. He had it graded dead on as a 6.0 with white pages. IIRC.

     

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    This is the Detroit Trolley copy and one of my favorite covers.

     

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    That's a great run of tremendous covers! This is my favourite of the entire run recently acquired from Heritage:

     

     

     

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    Somewhere or other I have a scan of my copy of V6#1, the Gerber no-show. Not sure if it is a scarce as people have assumed - though putting together an entire run of them is certainly an "extreme sport" - like ironing on the top of everest.


  2. The real mystery is, why are these later Venus issues so scarce? As Scrooge pointed out, lots of copies have been posted in this thread to make it seem as if they are relatively common - but that is not the case!

     

    Yes, this board has a tendency of making tough books seem common when they are not, Venus included.

     

    However, I am not sure about your "as we all know they also fall into a period when Atlas comics and pretty much every other publisher had low print runs".

     

    Venus 18 came out in March 1952, at a time when in more than any other years there were the most comics out. Now, since the publishers multiplied the # of titles out, I don't know if it corresponds to a smaller print run on more titles, and your statement is true ... but I always assumed that, there were more titles with similar print runs, which makes for a continued mystery for the relative scarcity of this title.

     

    I think you are right, the mystery is deeper, and I should have checked a few dates, and laid things out with a little more forethought.

     

    Take another Atlas title I was thinking of, Lorna the Jungle Queen. Issues seem to get scarcer as the years go by, spanning 1953 to 1957. Even the early issues can be pretty tough - including #1 (or that is my impression). So what I should probably have said to be more nearly correct, is that later Venuses seem to have the kind of scarcity usually associated with titles of the mid '50's, though they were published at a time just prior to the "dark age".

     

    Could it have been something to do with sales perhaps? Did the audience fail to stay with a title that went through a metamorphosis from romance to horror?

     

    Anyone else shed any light on this? I'd be fascinated to know.


  3. I'd also recommend the work Bill did on Namora #1 and #2 - simply sensational!
    My two favorite Bill Everett stories are "Cartoonist's Calamity" from Venus 17 and "Doomed in the Desert" from Namora. Both are spectacular.

     

    Cartoonist's Calamity is amazing, but I never let people read my copy for fear they'll damage an expensive book.

     

    It was reprinted, I was told, but I can't remember where.

     

     

     

    ...and "Tidal Wave of Fear", also from #18, was republished in The Golden Age of Marvel Comics, Otober 1997


  4. Nice #19, alanna. (thumbs u I think pinball may need to change the title of this thread to "Show us your Venus." :acclaim:

     

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    Well, it's definitely a love in! Terrific copy of #16 there, zzutak.

     

    You know, the other thing that strikes me about most of thes Venus stories is, that while the artwork is immensely sophisticated, the stories themselves are often decidedly eccentric - and at times, illogical, clunky, or surreal. They have unsatisfactory endings - and we never quite know what she has going for her, except, of course, her beauty and a winning personality! The immortal beauty queen! Maybe once they've run through all the clunky marvel heroes/heroines, they'll make a Venus movie! Hmmm, wonder who would best play the role?


  5. I've posted these before, here are my copies of the Everett run.

     

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    Magnificent! #16 is really tough in nice shape (though lower grade copies do turn up) and my impression is that #15 is even scarcer than #19! (If you ever get bored with it let me know!) As I recall, the art only gets really dark with issue #16 - while #15 is sort of transitional, with less use of shadows.


  6. Thanks Watcher! I picked it up from Jim Payette about 10 years ago. I phoned him one day and asked if he had a nice copy of Dark Mysteries #19 and he said, "Yeah, I've got one in my hands right now". We negotiated a price for what turned out to be a beautiful 8.5. Then I said, "How about Tormented #1? He said "Yeah, a VF copy."

     

    I asked about other long-desired comics -Chilling Tales #16, Menace #4 and Venus #19 and, remarkably, he had those too. It turned out that he had just picked up an original owner collection (he's good at that) - not quite of pedigree status but beautifully preserved horror comics.

     

    Of course I now wish I could go back in time and make him an offer on the whole collection! As far as I know, the others went into his catalogue and gradually dispersed - but anyone who bought them would have been blown away by their eye appeal regardless of the technical grade.

     

    If not for that stroke of good fortune I would probably still be looking for a Venus #19. The others wouldnt have been easy, but nice copies have turned up here and there.

     

    And another thing about these later issues is that the art is so beautiful one can never tire of them.

     

    The real mystery is, why are these later Venus issues so scarce? As Scrooge pointed out, lots of copies have been posted in this thread to make it seem as if they are relatively common - but that is not the case!

     

    Of course no collector who once having seen these, would ever want to part with them - but as we all know they also fall into a period when Atlas comics and pretty much every other publisher had low print runs. So they are hard to come by and we tend to hold onto them until a better copy comes along - then there is a dog fight. Yet, in a way, they also seem to remain slightly off the beaten track - or otherwise we wouldnt be so surprised at the prices they are capable of achieving!

     

    Anyway, please excuse my ramblings - I guess all this is pretty obvious to the vastly experienced board members whose posts I am finding so fascinating to read!

     

    May as well post my Venus #17 and #18 while I am at it. (If anyone would like to see scans of any of those Jim Payette issues just let me know and I will stick 'em up with my newfound powers of photobucket!)

     

     

     

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    Just wanted to post a larger image of my #19 (thank you Photobucket!). Not a 9.0 by any means - maybe a 7.5 becasue of very slight spine wear, but very glossy, with white pages. (Scan doesnt really do it justice)

     

    I agree with Scrooge - #19 in the same category as Fight 31 (interesting comparison there Scrooge!) I've noticed that Rangers 14 seems to have stepped up to that category quite dramatically in recent months.

     

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    Interested to know if other board members can think of other recent examples?


  8. The toughest issue is probably #15, which I used to own but was foolish enough to sell thinking I could get a better copy. I treasure the three I do have (17-19). Great artwork - among the best ever, and arguably the most underrated by the wider collecting community. I'd also recommend the work Bill did on Namora #1 and #2 - simply sensational!