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Hilarious! Kudos on the original thread idea!

too much awesome for one thread!

such a great cover... and name! Someone helped out cgc with a prescreen grade near Orogo's foot as well.

maybe so and its a changing of the guard in a very real way as well; this is an estate sale after all.

I think All New 8 is an amazing cover, but something about the logo and the colors don't grab me as much as some of the others.

Awesome. May I ask which ones you own? I thought the whole run was with the Verzyl's.

Good point. Although I suppose we do have some idea of what to expect from the Timelys... come to think of it !

I agree. Who wants to get into a battle until 3am

I mean wasn't that basically the case for the first 15 years? CGC was at least partly owned by Jim H and Steve Ivy wasn't it? I think I remember reading that.

wow gorgeous

and being later than these books you'd think they'd only be in better condition if that's even possible.

You may be on to something there!

just a matter of how bad you want something. I bought something for a little more than that once, but only once. I sold something else to cover the cost. All you really need to bid 175k on something is a collection that has 200k in liquid items in it; its not that high a bar if someone has been collecting a long time and has items with FMV far above cost. Obviously if your collection has 5m or 20m of items in it, it gets a lot easier. Not every buy has to be you dropping 200k, it can also be a 200k sideways move. Only a few people can drop 200k every week like its nothing, but the market at that level isn't just made up of those people. Its also made up of those who will consign other items, those who are willing to go into debt for a while to pay it off, etc etc.

gorgeous! congrats.

more great ones. (although BCM50 is hard to beat).

oof

I'm usually pro-art as most of us are here, but in this case I actually feel like the comic could have gone for a little more. The price on the page feels fair to me. So I guess I actually see more than a 290k value difference on this one. Now, if it was the splash, I'd rather have that than the comic, or at the very least its a fair fight.

In addition to Collectors selling Goldin to ebay, I understand Ebay is selling Ebay Vault to Collectors. Tradesies.

You might be right on the money! I tend to be optimistic when I think a piece is really special, but that doesn't always line up with the market.

Because COC19 is the only decent comp, its also hard to handicap whether it did sell cheap last time. Certainly its striking to see a 174k sale for the original art in 2020 next to a 102k sale for a 9.6 in 2021 (and later a 72k sale on a 9.2 in 2022). The margin of the art's results over the result of hg copies is so very slim. That doesn't mean anything is wrong with that if that's where the supply and demand falls, but it does suggest that perhaps the 2020 sale was a bit soft. Or maybe not, we'll see, but I'll stick with 500 for now. That cover is one of those covers that jumped out at you when picking up the Photo Journals for the first time, and I'm guessing that translates into some additional bidding for the OA, but this is a very very difficult piece to predict. It could be 200 and it could be 650 and it could be anything in between, IMO.

Right, I understand, and remember. I guess I'm thinking 174 now means less than 174 then, and I also personally place BC50 at the top of the Harvey covers Elias did, but not everyone will agree. Will be fun to watch.

I'll throw my hat in the ring with 500 on black cat and 225 on the other one. I think the best direct comp to these is the Chamber of Chills 19 cover that sold for 174k in 2020. https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/covers/lee-elias-chamber-of-chills-19-cover-original-art-harvey-1953-/a/7234-91009.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

Any estimates yourself?

you're right! That's the only written element that will be art.

Yes - seems like they've even chosen paper of a matching tone to make it blend in.