IchigosSoul

The Mods have said several times they will not do that. I'm not understanding this. I quoted the wrong post (deleted it). What I meant to quote was someone suggesting the usernames are in red if they are on the PL/HOS list. This has been suggested many times but the Mods will not do that. More my fault, I wasn't suggesting that on a Username, but on the actual list itself. I understand they are already in purple, but maybe a side disclaimer with something along the lines that this person is also a member of the HoS/PL to let members know that they STILL have an uncompleted transaction on the books.

Also, I noticed you have him on the PL twice, once with Hustruck first and the other with CGCboy first. You have both his names on their in both entries, does he really need two placeholders? The PL could get REALLY big if we follow that route.

To avoid confusion, why not just highlight someone's name in Red if they are a member of both lists? And keep them on both lists.

So even if they issued all the 88,000,000 they planned as the long term cap, right now the total market cap for CBC is $81.84... Unfortunately, you can probably get a nice Avengers Annual 7 for this price, so they were right about that! :shrug: Seriously worthy of a face punch. So it is really possible for someone to buy them all, and cash in on a cheap book. I think the best thing for OP to do at this point is sell the book and forget about this whole thing.

So does this mean a CGC 9.8 Avengers Annual 7 is worth $5,000?

So what are they worth? You say the coins and the comics are separate, but the coins are backed by the books? If someone in China buys out half of your coins and wants to cash out on day 2, what does he get? Do you sell the book and have 0 books left? Or do you pay him half of the CPG value of your book? What if you buy a book I really want, can I buy enough coins to cash in on this book and do an even trade? Do those coins stay in the market after you sell a book and lose value, or do you buyback coins and keep the currency even? And who really owns the books? You? TonicComics? Thomas Neely? Does everyone with the coins "own" the book? Can I use these on Amazon? eBay? Silkroad? Where can I spend these? If they can't be spent, should we just call them stocks like someone earlier stated? You keep going back to why we should care about crypto-currency, but this is a comic book forum. People here just want to know what comics, are they pressed, and can you flip them better than they can when the time comes.

There isn't a vote for PL. You don't complete a transaction, wronged person shows proof, you get nominated, and 3 days later you go on the list till you make it right. He turned it up to HoS level with his stream of lies, in my opinion. Other than when he admitted he never had the book, everything he told 4comics and the boards was pure BS. Of course, you are correct - there is no poll for the PL. And yes, everything he said was BS. I'm not denying these proven facts or defending HusBoy. No-one though is answering the actual question. Where is the cut-off between a PL offence being upgraded to a HOS offense when new 'info' comes to light? Again, if Hustruck had been put on the PL (which he was) and things had gone on its merry way with no further problems - 3 months later the cracked slab pic had been exposed - would their be all this clamour to go to HOS? I'm just asking a question, which no-one wants to address or answer. Actually its Jimmy L's question........ The line is when he started lying. If he had not followed through on the deal, then stayed away or silent, he would be on the PL until he made right with 4comix. When he started giving stories that he couldn't keep straight, using stolen pictures, and the info given by the original seller, that's when he crossed over to the HoS. If he's willing to do things like that, he stays into GIJOEISAWESOME territory in that he is lying to gain money(or in his case, keep from losing any). Look at it this way, he went to the PL for not completing a transaction, and he's probably going to go on the HoS for lying to everyone after the facts came to light.

There isn't a vote for PL. You don't complete a transaction, wronged person shows proof, you get nominated, and 3 days later you go on the list till you make it right. He turned it up to HoS level with his stream of lies, in my opinion. Other than when he admitted he never had the book, everything he told 4comics and the boards was pure BS.

The shilling was proven TWICE. The second time he was in this thread when he was caught and actively ended his shilled listings as the forum was discussing them! The first time he was caught shilling he blamed it on other people out to sabotage him as a result of badmouthing a local comic shop on the internet. He used his admitted secondary eBay to shill his hustruck007 listings. Whenever possible he scrubs all of his threads and posts that could be used to incriminate himself so asking for evidence of something that he posted about months ago is unrealistic. This kid is a turd. He does not need to be defended. He is not a good person. He is fully aware of what is going on in this thread at the moment and has chosen to remain silent on purpose. He was fast-tracked to the HoS because he is a repeat offender whose name pops up in this thread every few months. He has shown zero indication of ever actually putting an end to his inappropriate behavior even though he has been warned by numerous board members repeatedly. Has he done anything particularly nasty that warrants his inclusion on the same list as other board members who have scammed people out of thousands of dollars? No. But this is a preemptive measure to avoid that from occurring later on and it is also justified because of his habitual violations thus far. One who shills his own listings on separate occasions, gets caught each time, and then refuses to admit and/or apologize for having done it is not someone the forum needs to keep around. Someone who does this and then proceeds to attempt to drop-ship an expensive book, only to fail and attempt to get out of his obligation through a sequence of lies and deception is especially not someone that the forum needs to keep around. He started out here trying to corral people to yelp or something similar to make false bad reviews. Doesn't that count as interfering with someone's business?

No, I think it's only against the rules to request the payment be sent as a "gift" to avoid the fees(and leave the buyer without any recourse if the deal goes sour).

I'm sure somewhere out there is a seller getting Hustrucked.

Brock that is genius. While a good idea, it is not feasible with BB software. Also Arch has stated on multiple occasions that they are not policing this section. So I doubt they would be willing to ban access to PL/HoSers to portions of the site if it even were possible. Could we not just make a one-off post in any FS/WTB thread a PL or HoS member becomes part of, sort of like we do with sales thread violations? I know it's not 100% foolproof, and some will slip through the cracks, but if it included a link to the PL with wording like "Attention, Member82 is currently a member of the CGC Sales Forum's Probation List/Hall of Shame(insert link here). All member's are advised to use caution when doing business with these members. Good luck with the sale." As long as we limit it to one post, like with rules violations, it shouldn't be considered thread-craping. After that, people can use their own judgment, either good or bad, in dealing with said member.

If we are going down this road, it would be proper to see the following: 1. The original thread or PM conversations in which the book was purchased. 2. The PM/email in which Hus offered up the (false) picture of the cracked case. And another PM would have to go out notifying him that he has been nominated to the HoS Speaking for myself, I wouldn't vote without seeing 1 and 2. Without any of this, I don't think you will get very many people willing to vote for the HoS. I know I would refrain from such vote.

Just got this in the mail today.

The games, depends on a lot. The guides? Probably not much. There are a few choice guides that go for a premium(as far as guides go, Suikoden 2 comes to mind) but for your average Final Fantasy or Gran Turismo Guide, you would probably do best selling it with said game.