plitch

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  1. No worries. I was confused at the beginning, until I saw where you were pulling info from. Then it all made sense. Glad I could help. :)

     

    Many of those new numbers are from a few weeks ago.

     

    It looks like Doug resubbed a bunch of books looking for bumps and they haven't deleted the old numbers yet. (shrug)

     

    I guess you are correct, in this case the registry and the census do not match. I thought I validated a few of these before posting but apparently I am going crazy. Sorry Plitch, I was WRONG.

    BTW, I did ask for someone else to verify if I was seeing this correctly ? From the responses, I thought everyone concurred.

     

    Both are in the census as Twin Cities. Can someone else verify I am seeing all this correctly ? If so, I think CGC should be alerted. Also, how does this happen ? Even if the old label is not submitted with the resub, I thought CGC checks their own database.

  2. ....I think one of your problems here, Bob, is using a Registry set as an element of the CGC controlled census..... it isn't. It is updated and maintained by the individual user and is not typically subject to CGC oversight.

     

    Yea, looks like a slight issue with the CGC Registry, not the CGC Census. Apparently registry books with deleted numbers still stay in people's sets.

     

    It is up to the users to maintain their sets. (thumbs u

  3. Have you ever used the CGC verification tool?

    It's on the bottom of our home page www.cgccomics.com

     

    I type in that cert number you just posted - 0914365020

     

    It comes up No Match Found - because it has been deleted from our system.

     

    Another example....

    Comic Description: Avengers 5 Universal

    Grade: 8.5

    Page Quality: OFF-WHITE TO WHITE

    Pedigree: Twin Cities

    Certification #: 0914365020

    Owner: sufunk15

     

    Now on the Pedigree site as 1203501015

     

  4. No one is "cleaning this up as we speak." Nothing to clean up.

     

    1010423 001 is the Twin Cities book - it is deleted from our system. It was a 9.2 Off white to white graded on 6/20/11

     

    1203501 017 is the same book, same grade, same PQ. It IS on our census. It was graded 02/09/15

     

    It has not affected the census. One off, One on.

     

     

    I'm confused.

    1059691 001 is an Avengers #12 9.4 white pages we graded on 10/12/11. It is still in our system and it is NOT the Twin Cities copy.

    1107022 001 is in our system and it IS the Twin Cities copy, also a 9.4 white pages that we graded on 06/14/13

     

    Looking through my system, the other Avengers #12 Twin Cities was 0914684 003 and was graded on 02/23/11 (also a 9.4 white pages) and was deleted from the census.

     

    Looking at the census, there are 19 copies of Avengers#12 in 9.4 (+1 restored copy).

     

    1059691 001 & 1107022 001 are not the same copy. There are 17 other copies out there in 9.4. (shrug)

     

    Plitch, first off thanks for responding. Maybe somebody is cleaning them up as we speak. Here's another example....Avengers 11 ....

    In Sufunks's registry

    Comic Description: Avengers 11 Universal

    Grade: 9.2

    Page Quality: OFF-WHITE TO WHITE

    Pedigree: Twin Cities

    Certification #: 1010423001

    Owner: sufunk15

     

    The book is on Pedigree as 1203501017

     

    Certification #: 1203501017

    Title: Avengers

    Issue: 11

    Issue Date: 12/64

    Issue Year: 1964

    Publisher: Marvel Comics

    Grade: 9.2

    Pedigree: Twin Cities

    Page Quality: OFF-WHITE TO WHITE

    Grade Date: 02/09/2015

  5. I'm confused.

    1059691 001 is an Avengers #12 9.4 white pages we graded on 10/12/11. It is still in our system and it is NOT the Twin Cities copy.

    1107022 001 is in our system and it IS the Twin Cities copy, also a 9.4 white pages that we graded on 06/14/13

     

    Looking through my system, the other Avengers #12 Twin Cities was 0914684 003 and was graded on 02/23/11 (also a 9.4 white pages) and was deleted from the census.

     

    Looking at the census, there are 19 copies of Avengers#12 in 9.4 (+1 restored copy).

     

    1059691 001 & 1107022 001 are not the same copy. There are 17 other copies out there in 9.4. (shrug)

  6. Sorry I was late to the party. I guess I'll just put this right here.

     

    The CGC Signature Series is the leading & most trusted authentication service in the hobby for a reason. With our program you can be 100% sure the signature is authentic. We are proud of what we built, as are many of the people on this board & in this hobby that have contributed to it's growth, integrity, acceptance and market strength. If we didn't see it get signed, it doesn't get the prestigious CGC Signature Series label. Everything else is just a COA to us.

     

    Hope that helps.

  7. Let me just ask two simple questions.

     

    Is it better to have MCP then not to have it?

     

    In 15 years CGC pricing has evolved and our costs for parts have risen steadily, but never have we discussed removing MCP from our holder. It is an obvious cost-cutting measure, yet we have never removed MCP and have no plans to do so. Why would we leave MCP in our holders if it wasn't beneficial to the book?

     

  8. If i were to slab a book and the inner well was mylar and i did not include mcp, how long before the book starts to eat itself?

    The book will not eat itself. Books will last for years in nothing but a Mylar and a backing board. The environment in which the book stored is more crucial to page quality longevity than microchamber paper.

     

    The point of mcp is to primarily trap the off gassing of the Barex, not the book.

     

    That's not true at all - barex is completely inert. The mcp is there to absorb the off-gassing from the paper.

    I disagree.

     

    Ineos Barex

     

    Barex Summary

     

    From the second link:

    "Barex® resins belong to a family of acrylonitrile-methyl acrylate copolymers (AMAB) and offer high barrier properties to gases such as oxygen and nitrogen, as well as outstanding chemical resistance and inertness."

     

    Since day 1 we've put Micro-chamber paper into our books to catch the natural off-gassing that occurs with newsprint an paper products. We chose to do this based on our desire to protect the certified books for future generations to enjoy.

  9. I applaud the quick resolution and stepping up.

     

    But what was the "more to it" that would justify the reslabbing and certifying of a non-CCS cracked book? (or was the misunderstanding that CGC thought the cracking had been done by CCS?)

     

    My interpretation was that Paul mistakenly thought that Kenny had cracked the book.

     

    Yup. Kenny and Todd aren't at fault. It was my misunderstanding of the events.

  10. I applaud the quick resolution and stepping up.

     

    But what was the "more to it" that would justify the reslabbing and certifying of a non-CCS cracked book? (or was the misunderstanding that CGC thought the cracking had been done by CCS?)

     

    Misunderstanding on my part. Skimming a PM while working and thinking, "Oh, this must be what Kenny told me about." and moving on.