darkstar

If Stevens spent his years drawing the girls of Marvel and DC the market would've been all over his books well before it started caring about Hughes and Campbell in the 2010s.

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Just an all around terrible take and atrocious comparison to the videogame market. This is reactionary nonsense due to price spikes and overall instability in a virgin market. Evidence of an actual pump is nowhere to be found. Where is the hype? Where is the young, outside money moving into the market? There is little evidence of either of those things. Pulp content here on the boards? Nearly non-existent. Same thing to be said about Youtube and your social media platform of choice. Windy City Pulp was this past weekend, fewer than 5 dealers had graded pulps, and I would estimate 90% of the people in the room were in their late 40s or older. It was the same show that it has always been. Graded videogames were around for years, being bought and sold for understandable prices by collectors, before any sort of manipulation set in, the market depth and interest simply was not there. That market wasn't seen as an investment opportunity until Heritage made the false press release about the Super Mario Brothers sale and then conveniently announced they would start selling graded games.

What is your price on issue #1?

Remember that time Vintage Magic, probably the largest vintage Magic the Gathering dealer in the world, opened a sealed Alpha starter deck at CGC HQ with the head grader of CGC's Trading Cards division present? And we're to believe that the people responsible for grading these cards didn't know who submitted them? CGC's policy may be true MOST of the time, but it definitely isn't true all of the time. We really don't need to rehash all the instances of exceptions being made throughout CGC's history, do we?

It is unknown if the scammer was able to swap labels/books at home and reseal them without requiring a re-submission to CGC for a reholder or custom label. In theory he could have swapped the 4277700006 label at home with an inferior copy without ever re-submitting it to CGC. It depends entirely on whether he was able to crack the slab and reseal it without noticeably damaging it. Until that is ruled out as a possibility CGC should have released a list of every book that was ever submitted under his account and not ones that were only resubmissions.

But what if he was able to swap books at home and wasn't entirely relying on CGC to do it via reholders or custom labels? He might have submitted a legit 9.8 raw, swapped the 9.8 label at home with a lesser copy and then re-submitted the raw 9.8 again for another 9.8 label and just kept the cycle going. Every cert # attached to this person's account is suspect.

Verified by whom?

I believe so. I just took all the certs from his eBay listings and looked up the other books within each submission to see if every cert from each submission is on the list...and they aren't.

From the submission below the only cert on the list is 4277700004. Why? 4277700004 asm 252 4277700001 spider-man 1 4277700002 asm 252 4277700003 asm 252 4277700005 killing joke 4277700006 batman 442

Why isn't cert # 4343218005 on the list if 4343218001, 4343218002, 4343218003, and 4343218004 are all on the list?

The scans on a book's cert page are scans from the last time the book was in CGC's possession, not when the book was first graded. They have scans for swapped books on their cert pages...so no, they didn't know anything about this until the community discovered it.

The 9.4 wasn't swapped with the 9.8 and graded on 4/12. The time window doesn't fit. The swap occurred sometime after that and before the two sales in August.

Revise what speculation? I provided a reason for the discrepancy in grade dates for books that were part of the same order. Again your language seems to indicate that I am denying the accusation that the book in the 9.8 isn't actually a 9.8, when that has never been my position and I'm getting tired of correcting you regarding that.

A reholder isn't the same thing as a mechanical error. If you submit a Mark Jeweler copy and CGC grades it but does not note it on the label you can re-submit it as a mechanical error as long as you make the request within the 2 weeks or whatever it is from the time it was delivered.