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Haha, that is funny. All of the images I found were from Heritage. Thanks for posting and joining the club! No kidding ? I don't recall it being a heritage book, but either way it just goes to show how small the comic book collecting world really can be. Glad to be in the club ! -J.

Nice looking book there! Congratulations! -J.

Hey Spyder I just realized that the close up of the date stamp, fourth one down (the earliest one, April 3, 1963) is actually MY book. Where did you get that image from? -J.

Okay here is my lovely love. Please add me to the club. Had to take a camera phone pic because my scanner is artifacting now for some reason. -J.

Wow that's crazy! I went from booth to booth looking to pick up copies and a few of the dealers threw out $90 at me. I haggled and got about 4-5 copies in VF-VF+ for about $35/40 ea. Watch out for the copies with the "printer defect" small tears at the bottom. And yes, the book continues to rise even as the weeks go by. What kind of grade drop will these tears cause? If a book looks like it would otherwise grade 9.8 but has these tears, what will it grade? No grade drop. It's considered a manufacturing defect. 9.8's have them. I believe they are called gripper holes. -J.

Wow great books guys. Especially that 9.2. That thing is sick! Didn't have time to scan my 6.0, but it does have a date stamp of April 3, 1963 on it. With a July, 1963 cover date I doubt there will be too many with a stamp much earlier than that. Does this help ? Let me know if you would still like for me to post a photo of it. (thumbs u -J.

That's not "THE" 9.9 (different cert #). Ask price $250 more than that first one sold for. My 9.6 has gone up more in (both % and dollars). Thus endeth the lesson. That is a very good/disturbing point. -J.

Was I the only one who thought he was watching the matrix reloaded at the end of that second episode? Still dug it though! (thumbs u -J.

With only about 1 in 4 books historically grading out at a 9.8 or better, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over "a flood" of 9.8's hitting the market and "depressing" it. There will always be a nice premium for the 9.8's and the book will never be "cheap" again. (thumbs u -J,

4.5 OW/W That nice looking one that was on comic connect ? Niiiiiiiice. -J.

It's not about how much people like the character or want the book, it's about how many of the books exist, and the ratio between those who want and the copies in existence ("in existence" and "in the market" are not the same thing. The book is not like the Detective 33 in your sig line, which has limited supply because there just aren't as many copies in the world as there are people who'd like to have it. Everybody out there with multiple copies of that book could divest of their dupes and it would still be rare. But if everybody with multiples of New Mutants 98 divested of their dupes, those dupes could line the floors a million bird cages. The "limited" supply of NM 98 has entirely to do with the fact that there are many many copies which are being held by people. These books were not thrown out. The vast majority were treated carefully and very many of them weren't even read before being tucked away. Not even unsold copies were destroyed. There are more people banging the drum touting the value of common books because there are more people who have them to sell. But all it would take to impact the value would be a few of those people to stop banging that drum, either because they're unloading (or have unloaded their copies) or because they want to push something else (like something they have even MORE copies of), thank you Bluechip for a brilliant analysis ! the simple logic and factuality of your post is by and large ignored and ridiculed by many on these boards sad but true.. I have said all along that golden age has most of the only true rarities (where demand outweighs supply) almost NO coppers or moderns will ever come close to the demand outstripping the supply and NM 98 is a joke , reminds me of the so called " rare " camel beanie baby I have been looking for common sense posts and for someone's who's opinion I can respect so thank you ! The post was well written to be sure but I don't think anyone has said NM 98 is "rare". Comparing it to a book like Tec 33 with only 40 blue labels on the census is literally going from one extreme to another. NM 98 hasn't spiked a few hundred dollars recently because it is "rare". An increase in demand spiked it, be it speculator activity, or bandwagon collectors who just like to lock in on the next "big thing". NM 98 is simply a book a lot of people want to own. And it is more people today than it was a month ago. GA books are legitimately rare and many people cannot afford them. At least NM 98 is a newer "key" that is within reach of the masses, and that is why it should and probably will hold value. -J. Supply and Demand The simple truth is there are thousands of copies people are sitting on, tens of thousands. I have personally seen long-boxes full of NM-/NM copies. As in more than one long-box full. At some point these copies will flood the market and the price will reset. When that happens is anyone's guess, but I imagine around a month or two before the movie release (if it ever happens) is a fairly good guess. High grade copies have been hitting the market for years and it hasn't stopped prices from rising yet. -J.

That 8.5 copy did very well at $564. This variant is becoming ever more expensive. Glad I got my copy when I did. That was a strong price. In light of that last 9.8 sale though, it's probably about right. I wonder if a boardie managed to snag it. -J.

It's not about how much people like the character or want the book, it's about how many of the books exist, and the ratio between those who want and the copies in existence ("in existence" and "in the market" are not the same thing. The book is not like the Detective 33 in your sig line, which has limited supply because there just aren't as many copies in the world as there are people who'd like to have it. Everybody out there with multiple copies of that book could divest of their dupes and it would still be rare. But if everybody with multiples of New Mutants 98 divested of their dupes, those dupes could line the floors a million bird cages. The "limited" supply of NM 98 has entirely to do with the fact that there are many many copies which are being held by people. These books were not thrown out. The vast majority were treated carefully and very many of them weren't even read before being tucked away. Not even unsold copies were destroyed. There are more people banging the drum touting the value of common books because there are more people who have them to sell. But all it would take to impact the value would be a few of those people to stop banging that drum, either because they're unloading (or have unloaded their copies) or because they want to push something else (like something they have even MORE copies of), thank you Bluechip for a brilliant analysis ! the simple logic and factuality of your post is by and large ignored and ridiculed by many on these boards sad but true.. I have said all along that golden age has most of the only true rarities (where demand outweighs supply) almost NO coppers or moderns will ever come close to the demand outstripping the supply and NM 98 is a joke , reminds me of the so called " rare " camel beanie baby I have been looking for common sense posts and for someone's who's opinion I can respect so thank you ! The post was well written to be sure but I don't think anyone has said NM 98 is "rare". Comparing it to a book like Tec 33 with only 40 blue labels on the census is literally going from one extreme to another. NM 98 hasn't spiked a few hundred dollars recently because it is "rare". An increase in demand spiked it, be it speculator activity, or bandwagon collectors who just like to lock in on the next "big thing". NM 98 is simply a book a lot of people want to own. And it is more people today than it was a month ago. GA books are legitimately rare and many people cannot afford them. At least NM 98 is a newer "key" that is within reach of the masses, and that is why it should and probably will hold value. -J.

Again, I ask, how does a book going up in value $300-350 over a couple of weeks period portend "the end of the hobby as we know it"? The movie announcement increased the demand even further of an already very popular character. Until enough copies are flushed out to satisfy demand, prices will rise. This is basic economics, not a "bubble". At least not as it pertains to this book. And that is certainly something that should be considered but on a book by book basis. Question the sudden interest in characters like rocket raccoon and star lord. Characters that nobody gave two bleeps about until a movie came out. Now, based solely on that, $5.00 books are "selling" for $2000. That's the kind of nonsense that should be questioned. Dead pool and NM98 have been copper blue chips for years already, and have cultivated a steady rise in value and popularity. The same cannot be said for the aforementioned guardians of the galaxy brethren. -J.

Mind naming some? I put ASM 301 on the top of the list followed by BA 12 (though the latter is more properly classified as a "modern"). -J.

What is there to burst? It went from being a $450 book to an $800 book after a long awaited, much anticipated movie was announced. There are certainly other books, particularly in the copper age, that are far more fraudulent and over-valued than this one to be worrying about IMO. -J.

Awesome ! Looks like a super high grade copy too. Any plans to get it graded ? Where's snikt, he needs to update the list -J.

Okay, add me to the list! Here is my perrrrrrrr-ecioussssssss : Will be interesting to see how many boardies have one of these in their collections. (thumbs u -J.

Nicely done. -J.

Here's one... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wolverine-1-2010-Deadpool-Campbell-variant-CGC-8-5-Rare-/161446611527?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2596f7ca47 Snikt, you do know that it's an "unofficial" custom for an OP to keep track of the various members of a book's "club" or "appreciation" thread on the first page don't you ? -J.

This outcome is certainly plausible. In your opinion, what do you think has caused AF 15, and now hulk to leap frog, the SC4, even with the relative numbers of the books ? Do you attribute it solely to the movies, including the not so great ones ? Do you believe that there can ever be enough AF 15s to satisfy a global demand, when this book has become the "action 1" of the SA? I would suggest that is due to the MASSIVE popularity of Spiderman, and nothing else. SC4 is important as a comic book for other reasons, that have nothing to do with the Flash per se. The book is certainly rarer and will have value surges from time to time. However I don't see it having the steady and relentless climb like AF 15. Collectors of a wide age and income group aspire to own an AF 15. It's is truly transcendent. The greatest comic book creation since batman. The Flash is great too, but is just not on the same level. True, it would only take a fraction of the demand for it to perhaps keep pace with AF 15. But for whatever reason that isn't happening. And now he's lost ground to even the hulk. I agree it may not take much to tweak the dynamics. But at this point I believe it would take a massive seismic shift for SC 4 to ever be in at least the AF 15 ballpark again. I think its relative rarity may actually work against it as well in some respects. -J.

Nickel and diming the shipping on a $15k+ book.... -J.

Zach Snyder is no Christopher Nolan. AF 15 doesn't need big box office (or even a good movie) to fuel its sales. The hulk doesn't need any solo movie at all to fuel sales. Even if the JLA movie is a mind blowing success, and the new flash show runs for years on the CW, SC 4 will still not surpass AF 15 or hulk 1. Most middle aged women know who wonder woman is because of Lynda Carter. (thumbs u -J.

$3k for a blue 9.8, and $2500 for a 9.6 Stan Lee SS in the last couple months. I think the word is out. -J.

There she is! Holy sheet that's a beaut, congrats! -J.