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GM8

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  1. A couple more high-grade TMNT #1 sales ended yesterday at CC. Most notable was this $120K sale of a 9.8 SS with Kevin Eastman's signature from 2022 No buyer's premium was noted, so this is a 12K or 9% drop from the previous blue label sale on 1/11/24. There are very few yellow label 9.8's so I compare to the last blue label. This copy is new to my database so it was likely sitting in someone's collection for a while looking nice and new. I have to be honest, I wouldn't have gotten his signature on such a pristine book! It was either daring by the owner or could have been a 5-digit loss had KE accidentally done anything to the book! https://www.comicconnect.com/item/1036280#description This 9.0 sold for $20,367 (including 15% buyer's premium), which is a $2K or 11% increase from the previous sale last year of another blue label on 4/1/23 for $18K. https://www.comicconnect.com/item/946585
  2. Three new books for sale on Heritage. 9.8 - this one last sold for $250K at Comic Connect on 10/13/21 by my records. https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/alternative-underground/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/a/7369-91027.s?type=wantlistid-1008803!creatorid-cewl!linkclicked-lotlink!emailid-03142024-023004.186AM-3119817-1008803!itemid-7369_117004!wlem 9.6 (maybe you can buy this one on the cheap, press and re-submit to CGC? Maybe it's already been done?) https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/alternative-underground/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/a/7369-91180.s?type=wantlistid-1008803!creatorid-cewl!linkclicked-lotlink!emailid-03142024-023004.186AM-3119817-1008803!itemid-7369_101013!wlem 9.4 https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/alternative-underground/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-94-white-pages/a/7369-91181.s?type=wantlistid-1008803!creatorid-cewl!linkclicked-lotlink!emailid-03142024-023004.186AM-3119817-1008803!itemid-7369_101013!wlem
  3. A new listing on Comic Link for a 9.8, this one SN 0950071001 listed for sale for $159,900. This copy has a LOT of sales history. It last sold by my records back in 2018 for $38K on Heritage. Previous to that it sold on 4/1/16 for $27K on Comic Connect (with a possible quick re-sale on ebay for $24k although that one is sketchy because of the seller's "nick_bridger" history with bogus sales). There were more previous sales, but just know that this copy has been the hot-potato of 9.8's! https://www.comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fsearch_adv.asp%3Fall%3Dy%26TITLE%3Dteenage%2Bmutant%2Bninja%2Bturtles%26TITLEOPT%3DALL%26ISSUE%3D1%26Condition%3D%26ConditionTo%3D%26CensusRank%3D%26SearchPageQuality%3D%26Pedigree%3D%26PRICEF%3D%26PRICET%3D%26DESCRIPTION%3D%26DESCRIPTIONOPT%3DALL%26SearchRemarks%3D%26SearchCGC%3D%26EXCLUDE%3D%26CATEGORIES%3D-1%26WCATEGORIES%3D-1%26SORT%3DNEW%26_where_forsale%3Dy%26_where_auctions%3Dy%26x%3D47%26y%3D18%26where_forsale%3Dy&id=1708517
  4. Let's revisit this next year or even 2025.
  5. Heritage auction closed at $120K (w buyers premium). I happened to log in to the live auction feed as it was happening. The last price was at $90K, then it jumped to $100K and then at $110 with no further bids. The total price with buyers premium was listed as this happened at $132K, however in checking the listing afterwards it settled at $120K. Not sure the change. Could have meant the final bidder didn't commit/failed to commit and they took the second-to-last-bid (more likely), or they lowered the buyer's premium (less likely). https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/alternative-underground/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/a/7341-91040.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515 Either way, a large step back in value for this book. Seeing as I have one myself I am not happy with the current market of course. A 50%+ pullback in price from the top of $250K on 10/13/2021 is significant.
  6. Interestingly, the CC copy was allowing offers previous to the auction and the highest was ~$150K with a "buy it now" price of $200K. All the drama and $5,250 extra.
  7. this was my book: https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/alternative-underground/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/a/7242-91047.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515 To be transparent, there is/was the possibility of listing another high-end book that went along with this. Which likely provided more flexibility to me, fee-wise. I was miffed however, because another 9.6 sold on Comic Connect almost right after for somewhere in the 70-80K range (I'm traveling and don't have access to my DB).
  8. No, the buyer's premium (total price) was 66K, not higher. Similar to this one, the total price was $192K. The seller received whatever their arrangement with Heritage was minus the fee. In my case it was the 17%. https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/alternative-underground/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-signed-copy-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/a/7274-91029.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515
  9. A few years ago. Now that I think of it, I did negotiate the fee to be waived due to the price of the book. A nice problem to have.
  10. That sounds high. I sold a 9.6 through Heritage and it hammered at 66K. My cut was 55K, so 11K in fees or 17% of the full hammer price.
  11. I wasn't sure of your comment so I checked my database of TMNT #1 1st prints for sales of 9.8's only. You may be correct, there appears to be a discount to selling on Clink versus Heritage and Comic Connect, at least for the 9.8 grade. Here are a few examples: Heritage: 11/21/19 $52.8K Clink: 12/5/19 $50K CConnect: 4/30/20 $59K Clink: 7/7/20 $58K Clink: 12/9/21 $198K CConnect: 12/14/21 $231K
  12. Exactly. Someone had something either heavy or abrasive on the case. Not smart. It's a simple but stressful fix. Reholder to CGC but with loads of insurance and painful wait until its back safe.
  13. The ComicLink 9.8 last sold on Heritage for $192K just over a year ago on 6/16/2022. The ComicConnect is a first time on the public market that I can see from my database. I think the ratio of 9.8 to 9.6 is not a negative for values. The overall # has grown but the numbers are still very small relatively.
  14. A 9.8 just appeared again on Comic Connect, this time asking $200K buy it now, or highest offer ($150k currently). The same book was on ebay a while back asking $100k before being taken down. Last 9.8 sold for $180K on PWCC. https://www.comicconnect.com/item/1003292
  15. A little Heritage re-cap, there were 3 high grade 1st prints that just sold, 9.0, 9.4 and a 9.6 on 3/30/23 and 4/1/23. The 9.0 sold for $18K. No prior history available for this copy. This is a $500 (3%) drop from the most recent sale of $18.5K on 1/16/23 at Comic Link. The previous sale to that was on 12/13/22 for $23K. So the trend is slowly moving down. https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-vf-nm-90-white-pages/a/7339-94356.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515 The 9.4 sold for $28.8K. This 9.4 used to be listed on Ebay for ~$50K and was last sold in 2016 for $7,500. This recent sale is a $8,382 (23%) drop from the most recent sale of $37.2K on 6/10/22 at Comic Connect. The previous sale to that was on 4/8/22 for $36K at Heritage. The trend is also down, but steeper than 9.0's. https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-94-white-pages/a/7339-92162.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515 The 9.6 sold for $54K. No prior history available for this copy. This is a $10.8K (25%) increase from the most recent sale of $43.2K on 6/17/22 at Heritage. Previous sale to that was $69K on 4/7/22 also at Heritage. The trend is up but could be more stabilizing since that $69K sale was so high relative to the most recent sales. The $43.2K sale shows the perils of auctions for sellers. https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/a/7339-91043.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515
  16. It was the Rally copy (# 1199928001), the fractional ownership site/app. I know I'm talking to the wind here, but not everything is a conspiracy. There wasn't much on the market at the time, the previous sale was just under a year previous (7/7/20 for $58K). Then yes the price flew in less than 3 months. So, clearly there were sellers on the sidelines waiting for a good price. Then we saw 9 copies from 9/1/21 to 12/22/22 trade between $156K and $250K.
  17. Ebay sales for $50K you say? Hmmmm...those stick about as often as a brick thrown at a rock wall. Seriously though, I went through my data and don't have any yellow label sales from ebay for anywhere near that price. It's not to say they don't exist - just that I haven't seen it and have no record.
  18. For the first prints at least, there isn't a discernable difference in pricing, from what I have witnessed (also, many early signatures were on the interior covers of these books). However, one book that sold on Comic Link back in 2021 was a large price dip from the going rate (both before and after). The only difference was that the particular book had blue/red and green signature and sketch all over the cover. I think people are turned off by overt defacing of covers with sigs.
  19. This reminds me of the 90K Heritage previous peak sale back in 8/1/2019. That brought out all the naysayers, and for a while they were right. The subsequent drop in sales prices (52.8K, 50K, 59K, 58K) over the next almost 2 years went on until it was finally topped again on 6/8/21 at 92K. I think we'll see something similar. A couple years from the peak 250K sale of 10/13/21 to reach that peak again. Then up and up.
  20. This is cute, didn't see it posted yet: https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-first-drafts
  21. Final sale price: $156K, a 16% haircut from the previous sale of $186K on 9/8/22 and a 37.6% discount from the all-time-high price of $250K set on 10/13/21 on Comic Connect. Is this the new bottom? Time will tell.
  22. Another 9.8 for sale on Heritage. Current bid $99K. https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/a/7283-91062.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515
  23. A dip in the price for this book, but not to the doomsday levels some predict. Previous sale was $223,222 at Pedigree on 3/9/22, so this $186K sale is a 17% drop from that previous sale. Interestingly, this exact book (SN# 1262933001) last sold by my records way back on 11/20/2014 at Heritage also for a paltry $14,938. Oh to have a time machine!
  24. A 9.8 first print is at Heritage, 8 days remaining current price $108K (90K bid). https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/a/7279-91054.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515
  25. I'm not sure I understand, you were both bidding on a #1 1st print 9.8 and the other bidder had to sell his copy he already had at the same price? Do you happen to have the CGC# for the one that actually sold?