GM8

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  1. I never, ever, ever buy cardboard to ship comics. I imagine my situation is different than most since I live in nyc where my neighbors and everyone gets boxes sent to them everyday and they are put in the recycling (but even you burbites have recycling day right?). The trick is to use boxes that are not cheap and super-thin (like priority mail boxes). The grain of the box I try to alternate for each comic - one up and down and one side to side. I have a nice box cutter and I simply eye-ball them to fit in the ebay 10 x 12.5 branded sleeves. I use a priority mail mailing envelope to cover the bagged/boarded comic, then tape that to one piece of cardboard, then tape another piece to the first covering the comic. Put in sleeve. Done.

     

    That said, I have never been "dinged" by USPS for using priority supplies in the interior packaging even when I've had packages opened on the very rare occasion.


  2. So the 9.8 that sold at auction on HA appears to not be in their buy it now section any longer. However if you view the auction itself it shows the previously shown message "owner is actively entertaining offers.." with the previous $117k starting price. To any HA experts, what does this indicate? 


  3. 18 hours ago, Callaway29 said:

    I’ve tried to not post this but it’s starting to boil over...Robert Wilson needs to chill with the faux turtlemania collectibles. It’s only hurting the “lightning in a bottle” phenomenon he was fortunate enough to be a part of... Am I an ahole for thinking/saying this? Much respect for his role, but...the money grabs are too blatant and too frequent to ignore.

    I read a little bit about the history of Turtlemania and Metropolis...but what faux stuff are you talking about that's recent? Not trying to be dense, genuine question.


  4. On 9/12/2019 at 9:32 PM, Wolverinex said:

    have second prints been going up higher recently?  might pick one up soon.

    They have definitely gone up. I put one up for BIN a little while ago with a fantasy asking price and it sold right away. That was a while back and they continue to sell like crazy.


  5. 14 hours ago, pubmonkey said:

     The next auction (Heritage?) in November should give us a more realistic view as to what this book will sell for on the open market. Personally I think it will sell for less than $90k...somewhere in the high 60’s to low 70’s...

    A sale is a sale, and price is what people pay, so to speak. While November will provide more clarity of price it will be no more valid than the $90K sale.

    I would guess the Nov book falls short of 90K since there are 2 now for sale at the 100K mark and that feels like a top at least in the near term. But it will be Christmas season and things always get a little nutty around then for gift giving so it could be close. I'd guess 70's to 80's.


  6. 12 minutes ago, Bronty said:

    Oh boy lol 

    Well that’s an epic fail.   All he had to do was hang one for a while IMO.   Now he’s put the stench of weakness on it.

    it amounts to some very expensive thrill bidding :insane:

    The schadenfreude around this book is palpable. There were 35 people bidding on it so they weren't alone. What are the haters going to do when this book eventually hits $500,000?


  7. 33 minutes ago, jaybuck43 said:

    So, not sure if anyone caught this, but the TMNT #1 that sold for $90,000 is currently listed on HA as for sale by owner with a BIN of $100,000, and was listed on 08/19/2019.  My understanding is that if a bidder does not pay, Heritage buys the book and then lists it for sale.  16 days is about the turn around one would expect for the sale to fall through.

    Well you are right in that the same book that sold at auction for $90K is now listed for $100. However, it says the same owner who bought it has listed it. There's no reason to think this isn't the same person since the day after it sold they indicated it was available for resale immediately for $117K. It seems the owner has just lowered their asking price.


  8. 4 hours ago, rsouxlja7 said:

    9.4 $10,200 incl BP

    Same exact price the previous 9.4 sold for on HA also back on 5/16/19. Previous to that, one sold on 2/6/19 for $12.5K, then back on 5/27/18 one sold on ebay for $11K. 

     

    And I know we're living in crazy times, but there is no conspiracy going on with 9.8's. :roflmao:If someone had enough money to stockpile high grade TMNT #1's and "manipulate" the market for, what, ten thousand dollars if they're lucky after commissions and taxes? That's a lunatic and the market will take that person's $ soon enough.


  9. 23 minutes ago, rich_TMNT said:

    I'd say the introduction of Jennika the 5th Turtle is pretty major news...the last 4 weeks have been Turtles-mania and I'm betting that could have something to do with it. 

    True, there's that. I meant outside comic book world. Turtlmania Gold's sale recently happened before the whole Jennika thing. But maybe that's all that it takes.


  10. 1 hour ago, Gotham Kid said:

    di-ck measuring contest between 2 yahoos

    reminds me of the time when a Tec 44 8.5 went for 19K (!!!) on Heritage (internet bidding ended at around 4K) when even the Highest Graded Central Valley 9.4 is at 11.7K

    If it makes you feel any better, there's a Magic the Gathering card up in the same auction that some other yahoos have bid up more than this Turtles book.

    29 minutes ago, rich_TMNT said:

    This is incredible!  Wonder if this will get to six figures. 
    I suppose it's not that surprising though.  This price jump is the same thing that happened to Turtlemania GOLD and SILVER as of late.  GOLD has been about a $10-15K book for a few years and now it's suddenly nearly $60K.  SILVER was $1-2K and now $8-9K.  Turtles are hot now and my opinion is that these rare low-print quantity books have caught the eyes of collectors in general...not just Turtles collectors.  And, these collectors have some deep pockets...much deeper than mine! 

    That's what made me think this one could sail way higher, that Gold sale was another level. The amazing thing to me is that this is organic. There's no movie out or any other major news really.


  11. 6 minutes ago, carefulsum said:

    So by paying this premium markup, are these crazy bidders getting ripped off or just basically setting the new "floor" price point for 9.8's of this book for the future?  

    The premium is very clear and obvious. Price is what someone is willing to pay. In this case right now, someone is willing to pay $75,000. It doesn't matter the seller only would get $62.5K. He'll likely get even less with taxes and other costs already spent. So yes, the floor is whatever the final strike price is, including the BP.


  12. Wow. Well, that's what happens when you have few 9.8's come up for auction at a site like Heritage for a year. Ebay has had several 9.8's listed since for far less but no bites. Heritage has the access and trust of wealthy buyers. Pair that with a rare comic and boom.


  13. 18 hours ago, szav said:

    Yep, already a record, but will be interesting to see if it goes any higher.  I've noticed in the last several HA auctions of 9.6s and 9.8s that the winning bid usually comes in a few days ahead of time, or there are at most 1 or 2 more bids when the auction goes live.  This is as opposed to GA books where you might see something at sitting at 10-20% of its final hammer price right up to when the live auction starts.

    I wonder what if anything this says about the kind people who are bidding on a TMNT #1 first print vs other high dollar comics on HA.

    Interesting observation. Probably the difference in the ages of the buyers.


  14. On 7/18/2019 at 10:40 AM, GM8 said:

    Well I'll have to revise my # now, since there's 2 9.8's on Heritage now. This new listing was a copy previously (or maybe still) owned by nick_bridger of ebay fame. It was listed as sold on ebay back on 12/28/17 for $30.2K, although I messaged with him and he said that the buyer flaked and he 2nd chance offered it to someone for $24K. Either way, it doesn't effect the market value of this book, since sales following this have established $35-38K as the latest price range for this book.

    But with the second copy now up, I revise my estimate for the listing already on auction (currently at $26K) to $40K. Here's the upcoming listing:

    https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/p/7212-26001.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    A little update on these two 9.8 first prints over on Heritage. This competing listing has had its start date changed to November 21, 2019. That's smart.

    On 6/6/2019 at 1:03 PM, GM8 said:

    A 9.8 is coming to auction over on Heritage on 7/12. This one looks like its first time being publicly sold (at least going back to 2005 where my data starts). It's one of only 28 9.8's out there, according to the CGC census (24 Universal, 1 Qualified, 3 SS). Last sales were $38.2K on 5/12/18 and $35.8K on 2/23/18.

    https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/p/7211-78003.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    Any guesses what the final price is (including buyer's premium)?  In my opinion, it tops the last sale and gets into the $50K area due to strength in the recent auction of the Turtlemania gold as well as length of time since a 9.8 TMNT #1 has been on the market. The US equities market overall strength helps also.

    This one currently at auction is priced at $40,800 now with the buyer's premium. A record with 5 days remaining.


  15. 1 minute ago, rich_TMNT said:

    @GM8  The original listing has ended but he relisted it (which is still up as of me posting this).  It's still the same price as before but he's edited the title and description to reflect what it actually is.  

    Ok thanks, well that's as good a result. 


  16. 6 hours ago, Blastaar said:

    Noticed he relisted with an update that this is the 2014 reprint. So how does he walk back the "I bought this in the 80's from a collector"?

    Annnnnnddd it's ended.

    Nice work guys, looks like the attention made him cave. At least someone isn't out thousands for that garbage.


  17. Now this one I don't know what to say. First of all the "previous owner" had the thing signed by KE in the "80's". The marker used and style looks more like 2000's or later to me. KE and PL used to sign in thin pens back in the day - I don't know when exactly they started using these fat-tipped, light color markers but I didn't notice them until at least starting in the 2000's. Plus the photo of KE looks much later than the 80's. My point being that his description about how noone should ever open this first print is a little concerning.  Hmmm..

     

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/TEENAGE-MUTANT-NINJA-TURTLES-1-First-Print-Signed-Mirage-1984-TMNT-FRAMED/283555849012?hash=item42053ee334:g:TCMAAOSwY7hdNL~G


  18. On 7/16/2019 at 1:22 PM, valiantman said:

    It would take two potential buyers to believe it's worth $50K to have it go there.  Just one serious buyer at $50K and another at $38K will have it ending just over $38K.  Prices are driven by the one who ends up with nothing. :grin:

    Well I'll have to revise my # now, since there's 2 9.8's on Heritage now. This new listing was a copy previously (or maybe still) owned by nick_bridger of ebay fame. It was listed as sold on ebay back on 12/28/17 for $30.2K, although I messaged with him and he said that the buyer flaked and he 2nd chance offered it to someone for $24K. Either way, it doesn't effect the market value of this book, since sales following this have established $35-38K as the latest price range for this book.

    But with the second copy now up, I revise my estimate for the listing already on auction (currently at $26K) to $40K. Here's the upcoming listing:

    https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/p/7212-26001.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515


  19. 9 hours ago, carefulsum said:

    Just out of curiosity, if say this book goes around 38k to mid 40k range,  would this be a better book to own vs a very similar priced IH181 white pages...which one book to own and hold for say 10+years?

    That's a good question. IH181 has done very well, as has TMNT1 more recently. If I had to guess %-wise increase where each one would be in 10+ years I'd go TMNT1. Wolverine will always be popular and with the Marvel universe, he'll keep gaining new fans every generation. But the MU is big and fans are fickle. Look how strong X-Men were 10 years ago and now its all Avengers. TMNT is owned by Nickelodeon and their heyday was with 90's kids who will be at their peak economic power in the future.


  20. On 6/6/2019 at 1:03 PM, GM8 said:

    A 9.8 is coming to auction over on Heritage on 7/12. This one looks like its first time being publicly sold (at least going back to 2005 where my data starts). It's one of only 28 9.8's out there, according to the CGC census (24 Universal, 1 Qualified, 3 SS). Last sales were $38.2K on 5/12/18 and $35.8K on 2/23/18.

    https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/p/7211-78003.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    Any guesses what the final price is (including buyer's premium)?  In my opinion, it tops the last sale and gets into the $50K area due to strength in the recent auction of the Turtlemania gold as well as length of time since a 9.8 TMNT #1 has been on the market. The US equities market overall strength helps also.

    This one is out of the gate and running. Already w/ Buyer's Premium (BP) : $25,200.00. 16 days left. 

    What's your best guess where this one will land? Spiderturtle thinks it will be higher than previous sales of $38,240 and $35,850. I think it will be significantly higher, around $50K since we haven't seen one listed at auction for over a year, stock market highs, and the recent astronomical sale of a Turtlemania gold. We will see!