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10 hours ago, Hulksdaddy1 said:
So, what will this hammer at? Let's hear some predictions. I'm going $35k
Good eye. I'd guess $41K. The last 9.4 sold on Heritage back in December 2020 for $36K.
Of note, this one hasn't come up for sale publicly since I have data back to 2005. So this appears to be a long-term owner cashing out (who likely sold it to this dealer). I like how ambitious the dealer is mentioning the 9.0 sale, which of course was from the Kevin Eastman personal collection. But hey, a guy's gotta dream right?
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ComicConnect has a counterfeit copy. Looks pretty well done, wonder if I could tell!
https://www.comicconnect.com/item/901762
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42 minutes ago, Wipple said:12/22/20 received6 books2,400 $valueECONOMY tier1/25/21shipped way earlier than expected--Can I make it without looking at grades?
unlikely.
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19 hours ago, EN4CER said:
Guys I need some advice. I have the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Adventures 1 CGC 9.8 direct and newsstand version. I’m contemplating on selling them. I’ve noticed that the price has skyrocketed on eBay. Anyone know why? I’m worried I sell them and they continue to climb and I end up feeling like . I’m a collector foremost.
I would sell whichever one I feel less attached to, keep the other one.
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15 hours ago, valiantman said:
CGC 9.2 TMNT #1 First printing finished at $28,800 today on Heritage
Big jump. A little context for previous 9.2's:
The last one sold was a purple label on 9/20/20 for $15.5K on ebay. Previous copies sold for $11.5K and $9K of blue labels back on 11/20/19 and 8/20/19 respectively.
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2 hours ago, Brittany M. said:
No, unfortunately. The books are scanned if images are requested for the book.
ok thanks.
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I submitted some books in 2016 without requesting images. Does CGC automatically scan all books that are graded so I can get an image at a later date even though I didn't originally request it?
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23 minutes ago, valiantman said:
It wouldn't have said "From The Collection of Kevin Eastman" on the label, though. I think the Heritage buyer at $45,600 must have wanted that extra detail.
That's what I got out of it too since there's no other reason to pay such a premium when a higher grade copy is available in the moment.
Kevin Eastman could make a killing by temporarily adopting other comics for people! Just kidding of course. Don't get any ideas Kevin!
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12 hours ago, valiantman said:
Finished at $36,000 with BP.
A new official high price for a 9.4. Previous public sales were $17.5K on 7/19/20, $14.45K on 2/27/20 and $13.5K on 2/13/20. If you go by the July sale it's a 106% increase in market price. Impressive.
But hold the phones. The SS 9.0 sold for $45,600?! Holy pepperoni pizza. The last SS 9.0 sold for $14.4K on 5/20/20, that's a 217% increase.
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The 9.4 on Heritage is up to $28.8K with buyers premium with ~9+ hours remaining until live auction, which means I have no idea how much more time is left!
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34 minutes ago, Ryan. said:
I was at a LCS today discussing with the owner the insane gains on all things TMNT lately. He mentioned that, in 1984, the local Diamond distribution center, then located in Allston, MA, had a full long box of first prints sitting in the warehouse unsold. The rep contacted local shops asking if anyone wanted them, everyone passed, and that box was tossed in a dumpster. That box would have held somewhere around 250 copies. I have no idea how accurate this story is, if his memory is correct, etc. But I found it interesting.
I think he must be mis-remembering because that book was the talk of everywhere in the northeast at the time. It was a literal frenzy for month after month. Diamond of all people would have been knowledgeable about the demand.
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If I have, say a 9.6 comic already graded and I send it back in for a press and regrade. I hit the jackpot and it grades 9.8. What happens to my previous serial # and the census count? Pardon if this has been asked, I did a search but nothing came up.
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18 hours ago, tvindy said:
GoCollect recently bumped up their price estimates for TMNT. A 7.0 is now $8500 (from $7000), and a 9.6 is now $38,000 (from $26,000).
Since there are no public sales of 9.6's, I wonder if it is based on the 9.8's price at rally road. The ratio of roughly 2 to 1 from 9.6 to 9.8 is what I've discerned from pricing up until recently.
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I didn't see these two mentioned but there's a 9.4 and a 9.0 up on Heritage, ending ~ December 10th so we will get some price clarity for those grades in the near future.
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19 hours ago, Turtle said:
TMNT is seeing quite a surge in 2020. I'm not really sure what's driving it.
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It's the day you've ALL been waiting for. No, not election day silly, that's boring in comparison! This is the day that you can trade fractional shares of TMNT #1 1st print 9.8! Right now they're at $90/share which translates to $90,000 for the underlying book. I can't wait to hear the resident Debbie Downers on this forum give us their "completely unbiased, expert-opinion with absolutely no jealousy" analysis.
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A couple "Ebay versus" questions:
1) Ebay returns vs. Paypal returns with regard to chargebacks. I've had some experience with Paypal (unfortunately) in this regard, but not yet (luckily) with Ebay and someone attempting to do this. Anyone have any buyer claim unauthorized use of their account/cc in the new ebay managed payments system? How did it go?
2) Ebay selling vs. Instagram vs. Facebook. I know the last 2 don't charge fees, so I assume Paypal is the common intermediary. It just seems like a pain to re-do a listing that you've already created in ebay for IG / FB. Any hints/trips/tricks?
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Just saw this #2 1st print in the ebay sold list for $10K . I know how these things can be manipulated, but if there's another sale that confirms this new price point then holy cowabunga.
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Ok I can finally get this off my chest. I'm in the club. I've been following the Turtles since they originally came out and have loved talking with other Turtle-heads over the years on this forum but have kept my collection private mostly. Some PMs here or there but I've never felt the time was right. Now is the time. Why? Because they're safe and sound in a safe deposit box and I don't have to stress about the risk of having them get stolen/damaged, etc.
My first "1st print" purchase was from a big NYC comic shop back in 1986 or 1987. I got it and was so happy, paying about $125 at the time. A couple looks later and something didn't sit right with me. I looked closer and in better light and saw the abrasion below the word "First" on the inside cover. Then I read a little about it, I don't recall where, but they talked about counterfeit copies. It was a third print with the "third" scratched out and "first" written in. I told the comic shop guy (who probably knew it was fake) and luckily he acquiesced and gave me my money back. His reply to me was "you were right!". Yeah. I was really disappointed of course and gave up the search at the time.
Finally not long after, I got the urge again as I saw prices were increasing. I managed to track down not one but two first prints. Originally I bought them from two different sellers in the Comics Buyers Guide probably around '89 and '91 for the two purchases. I believe I paid about $180 for the signed one and $300 for the unsigned one a couple years later. They graded 9.6 and 9.8 a couple years ago at CGC respectively, both blue label. Seeing those grades at first was just unbelievable in the moment for me. I lost my s*&t when the 9.8 popped up on my screen!
Just a big weight off my shoulders now that they're safe and secure. Not sharing photos/CGC #'s until I decide to part with them. Either way, I'll hold on to my 3rd print which I bought off the shelf in '85.
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12 hours ago, valiantman said:
I'm the "questionably-intelligent" guy who traded a 4.0 AF15 for a 9.6 TMNT 1 when they were both worth about $9K in 2014. It looked very bad for me when 4.0 AF15 went to $35K in 2017, but it's back below $25K now. I don't think $25K will buy a 9.6 TMNT #1, so I might be ahead at the moment. My reasoning wasn't that TMNT is bigger than Spider-Man. TMNT will never be bigger than Spider-Man. TMNT #1 is the biggest book from my lifetime, and there were fewer than 50 copies at 9.6 or higher (currently just 76). If there are 100 guys like me, there aren't enough TMNT #1 at that grade to satisfy us. AF15 4.0 had about 600 copies at 4.0 or better at the time, so my logic was more about "future opportunity" if I could only own one of those two books and would like to someday own both. It was also true that I had two copies of AF15 at the time, so I still had "one of each" after the trade. I was only into the 4.0 AF15 for $5K and copies of 9.6 TMNT #1 had been selling over $5K since 2005 so it wasn't like I could have put that $5K into a 9.6 TMNT #1 instead.
Ultimately, 4.0 AF15 may beat 9.6 TMNT #1 but I don't think either will ever be $9K again, so I couldn't really lose either way I went.
Thanks for sharing this. Most people don't want to talk about anything slightly negative or not "a HUGE win".
Speaking of 9.6's, this is the first one publicly for sale in a while. Only $65K!
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I hate to give oxygen to counterfeits but these "Russian edition" of the TMNT books have got to be bogus:
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1 hour ago, pubmonkey said:
A #2 9.8 universal sold last night on eBay for $2800...
wow
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2 hours ago, rckstr1253 said:
Looks like sales are slowing down, right?
The 3rd prints picked up even with several coming to market, still seems active to me. The second prints are not as available anymore and prices didn't cool down as far as I can see. There are very few first prints out there.
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3 listings for high grade 1st prints:
Comic link has a 9.4 already at auction, $25K bid so far. Last one ended at $35.9K. Where will this one?
https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FSEARCH_ADV.ASP%3Fall%3Dy%26TITLE%3Dteenage%2Bmutant%2Bninja%2Bturtles%26TITLEOPT%3DALL%26ISSUE%3D1%26Condition%3D%26ConditionTo%3D%26CensusRank%3D%26SearchPageQuality%3D%26Pedigree%3D%26PRICEF%3D%26PRICET%3D%26DESCRIPTION%3D%26DESCRIPTIONOPT%3DALL%26SearchRemarks%3D%26SearchCGC%3D%26EXCLUDE%3D%26CATEGORIES%3D-1%26WCATEGORIES%3D-1%26SORT%3DNEW%26_where_forsale%3Dy%26_where_auctions%3Dy%26x%3D47%26y%3D18%26where_auctions%3Dy%23Item_1462321&id=1462321&itemType=0
Two 9.6's upcoming. One at Heritage starting March 12th:
https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/p/7242-51001.s
The other at Comic Connect starting March 22nd:
https://www.comicconnect.com/item/901543