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why is this?

But everyone who's here already knows that, right?

Yeah, not a fan. I'll never understand why someone who has a beautiful copy of a valuable comic wants the creator to write all over the cover in a sharpie or whatever. It defaces the book in my opinion, even if (insert deity of your choice) signed it. Just my opinion.

That sig though. Why?

1350 for a 4.0

Oh I get the high-dollar part of it. It's all relative imho. Small # of buyers and all that. Yes. But TMNT I would argue has way more individual fans than most any of the individual superheroes save Batman and Spiderman. Hulk doesn't compare, nor Superman as of late. Even Wolverine doesn't have the same mass appeal outside of comic fandom. Just my opinion, who knows maybe I'm wrong.

You've got great arguments for you to never buy a copy of TMNT #1. In fact, by your own logic if you had a low grade copy you should get rid of it right away, before the world comes to its senses! hurry! I don't doubt the American consumer. New movie with Seth Rogen behind the wheel. I don't think we've seen the top.

The same translates across all grades, of course. You're asking about 300 high grade comics of a pop-culture sensation, implying that's huge. It's the opposite.

There is no mystery stash of 1,000 9.8 1st prints waiting on the sidelines. The instant they hit the ten-thousand dollar mark caused probably 80% of them to be graded. Sorry it just doesn't make sense otherwise. Contrarianism for its own sake is pointless.

Lots of emotions going on. Lots of posts too, this is the most action this thread has seen in a long time. I don't follow other discussions (arguments) about hot books that much but I suspect its probably similar with the wide range of responses. I prefer this to the recent past with the schadenfreude of the 90K book slinking back to 50-60K. That really brought out the niceness in a few unmentionables.

I don't have any recent, crazy town, prices for 9.2's but using 9.0's as your guide the last two sales were $14,995 just on 7/29/20 and $14,375 on 5/20/20. I think old-dano's target of 20K is a good starting point. But don't take less than 16 or 17, imho.

This one is fun. It looks like the guy's rottweiller chewed on it. How much for a slightly-gnawed 2nd print? At least $305! https://www.ebay.com/itm/TEENAGE-MUTANT-NINJA-TURTLES-1-2ND-PRINT-1984-AFFORDABLE-COPY/133489424810?hash=item1f1496f9aa:g:jqEAAOSwSx1fMI7u

The seller pulled this book. It was not sold per him. That makes zero 9.8 first prints for sale currently. And we all know 0/32 makes 0. Time for a price jump to $500K!

Seth Rogen movie. Stock market all time highs. Two pretty good reasons.

I only track first print sales of 9.0 and up, so it's limited data in that dept for sure. Haven't seen a sale of one in years so I wouldn't hazard to guess value today.

Here's a 9.2 on sale, special price, stacked-coupon special for only one easy payment of $29,500! This book has been listed by comicmylars out of California for a while, ebay had it as "sold" last November at $13.5K. So that apparently fell through to the benefit of comicmylars, apparently. The asking price had been all over the place last year, 11.8K, then 10.5K, then 13.5K, then 14.5K, then the "sale". https://www.ebay.com/itm/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-1-CGC-9-2-Mirage-1984-1st-Print-White-Pages-cm/353163118979?hash=item523a298983:g:LmUAAOSwkHxcAM6F

Thanks. Yes, that's just over 12 weeks, similar to my last one. Shoulda paid for the fast track!

anyone know current turnaround times at CCS? my submission last October took at least 12 weeks lol.

I only see AF 15 7.0 on your site. What other books do you have? How is ownership structured differently than RallyRd?>

Thanks. You got a deal on that 9.8 buddy! I don't track 2nd print prices unfortunately, at least not data-wise. I only track 1st prints from 9.0 and higher. Probably need someone with GPA access for that data.

Here's some capital gains for your viewing pleasure. This 9.0 off white/white paged blue label last traded in November of 2018 for $6,560. Yesterday, it sold for $15K over on ebay. Cha-ching! https://www.ebay.com/itm/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-1-CGC-9-0-1984-Mirage-1st-Print-H12-cm-clean-/352841824842?hash=item522702fa4a%3Ag%3AFmQAAOSw84ZcODNV&nma=true&si=VC%2FvYp9GMj7kX%2BMb19EhSWILuaM%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The Rally rep responded to my initial questions regarding ownership rules, sales, etc. This is my question and his response: (Rally) Jul 28, 2020, 1:09 PM EDT Hi - Thanks for writing in and happy to answer these questions for you! We do limit any individual investor to 10% max of any asset - however, all assets are always for sale, including to users of our platform; we’re always accepting offers on all funded cars on the platform and are continually tracking sentiment data and values from auctions, insurers, brokers, and private dealers all over the world to track price movements. If we get an offer that's a significant premium, it's our responsibility to bring that offer to the shareholders and potentially sell the vehicle. Let me know if there's anything else I can answer for you! Me Jul 26, 2020, 9:07 AM EDT Hi, all the concept. Question for you. What if an investor purchases all the shares of an item? Is that item delivered to them? What if an investor purchases the majority of shares and wants to buy the others out? What happens then?

Not really a pump...this is real demand. The movie may have something to do with it, and the stock market definitely does. It hit me when the second prints went nuts, now it's going back into first prints again. I think the 9.8's hit that 100K mark soon.

I think I read your hypothetical correctly and it's an interesting point but ultimately I don't think it will have a lot of effect. So someone buys a piece of TMNT #1 9.8 say, at $450 (the average investment) and its then a chargeback through paypal. Well, then the house has those shares back in their hands. If the asset increased in trade price then they're fine and they just re-sell the shares at that price. If they go back to the offering, then they sell at that price and its a push. If the asset loses money in that time, then they just take the hit. Assuming they are buying items like the TMNT #1 and reselling them instantly for 10% profit (they paid $59K for the TMNT #1, sold it to investors at $65K) then they are still ok. I don't think a mass-exodus of chargebacks is a likely scenario. Most people don't even know about them, maybe 5%. Then those who would go through with this dishonest event would be even smaller.

I've never seen this copy listed or sold before, special discount price of $100,000! New 9.8 listing on ebay from a seller I'm unfamiliar with "redhoodcomics". Anyone know anything about them? They're in Las Vegas it appears. https://www.ebay.com/itm/TEENAGE-MUTANT-NINJA-TURTLES-1984-First-Printing-1-CGC-9-8-NM-MT-SIGNED/224094283871?hash=item342d0f685f:g:o2UAAOSw9INfHQs- A side note: this makes 15 unique CGC 9.8's that I have in my sales/listings database going back to 2006 with the first sale I have record of in 2011. So out of 28 officially graded books, a little over half have been listed and/or changed hands since then. The other 13 are in collector's hands and have been off the market for at least the public.