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There is a larger topic in comics general where they're discussing all the details but essentially someone pointed out this looks legit on the face of it, FINRA registration and everything.

What if, you were able to amass all or most of the shares for a particular comic? If you had all, would they then surrender the book to you? If you had most would they allow you to contact the other owners and ask if they would sell the remainder of their shares?

That must be where they're making money. They or someone just before them purchased the TMNT on Comic Connect for $59,000, and then turned around and sold it to their investors for $65,000 which apparently took minutes. That's 10% profit on the flip. Not bad.

Well this is news. I just saw that a site called Rally Road rallyrd.com purchased the recent Comic Connect 9.8 (CGC 119928001) that sold for $59K and has distributed shares via its app platform to "investors" apparently @ an initial offering of $65/share of 1,000 shares total. Yes, that values the book at $65K. There were apparently 143 of these initial investors, who purchased about $450 total each. Here's the link via my app, you will need to create an account to see it I believe. There's other comics there to invest in as well. But this certainly brings comic investing / high value comics to a different level....likely higher prices is the end game in my opinion. https://app.rallyrd.com/app/assets/comics-literature/TMNT1

Hi all, nothing new per se but I always find the Heritage "offers" section interesting when it comes to high grade listings of this book. Basically if you sell or list a book on HA, you can be contacted seemingly forever with offers from interested parties. Recent ones for 9.8's have come under the recent sales prices. The idea of throwing something against the wall to see if it sticks, I guess: SHORT DESCRIPTION SOLD FOR (WITH BP) AUCTION DATE OFFER STATUS OFFER DATE Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1 (Mirage Studios, 1984) CGC NM/MT 9.8 White pages.... $38,240.00 May 12 2018 $49,712 Pending Jul 15 2020 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1 First Printing (Mirage Studios, 1984) CGC NM/MT 9.8 White pages.... $17,925.00 Nov 17 2012 $35,000 Pending Jul 15 2020

You may be right about BA books and timing in general. I don't really follow other high-end books at CC or CL. But with regards to TMNT, if I had a high-end book I would absolutely sell it on Heritage. The two biggest sales to the upside were both there. BTW: the CL 9.8 is now at $46K with reserve met! Someone is going to own this copy when the auction ends. https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FSEARCH.ASP%3FPreviewCode%3D2020june%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3DTurtles%26GO%3DGO%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_1404932&id=1404932&itemType=0

It's no problem since I keep a spreadsheet of these sales. Yes, those are correct. Agreed. Although with stock prices soaring again, who knows where things go. Heritage clearly has access to a more higher end group of buyers than the traditional CL, CC and ebay. They have consistently sold books higher than market prices. Remember the 9.6 that sold for $26K back in 2017, when 9.8's were going for just a bit higher? That was a HA sale too. He said it was sold but not paid for yet. It is sketchy to use other photos but whatevs...maybe he's just lazy. There are a few high-end TMNT resellers out there and they seem to have an endless reservoir of cash and high end, highly sought-after Turtles books. Sales on ebay are often hit or miss as far as using for price discovery.

Ok the scoop is that the $59K sale is legit, confirmed via phone with CC this morning as a consignment/BIN sale that ended on 4/30/20. It is the same book that sold last summer for $90K. Sooo...our last sales of 9.8's boil down to: $90K, 52.8K, 50K, 59K. The CL book is up a bit to 44K, reserve not met. https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FSEARCH.ASP%3FPreviewCode%3D2020june%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3DTurtles%26GO%3DGO%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_1404932&id=1404932&itemType=0 Also, the ebay book is back up, same selller who also confirmed he has it listed at CC for $85K. So maybe he just wanted a photo of the back and poached one from another book. It's possible if he has it in a safe deposit box or not in hand.

Well that's interesting...haven't seen this sale before. This is the same book that sold for $90K last summer. I have a message into CC to see when this was.

Well, I just messaged Jason and per CL the December sale at $50K is legitimate. The buyer is now selling the same comic at auction. So, in the past year there were 3 confirmed sales: 90K,52.8K & 50K.

Thanks, they're usually good about getting back. The CL sale that ended on December 5, 2019 was not completed. The same book is now for sale again at CL currently at auction. Previous: https://comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FSEARCH.ASP%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3Dteenage%20mutant%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_1364734&id=1364734&itemType=0 New: https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FSEARCH.ASP%3FPreviewCode%3D2020june%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3DTurtles%26GO%3DGO%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_1404932&id=1404932&itemType=0#detail Yes, we're at 42K with 18 days remaining. We'll see if the buyer pays this time! They should ban whoever won it in December and never paid, that's for certain. Good.

Comic Connect got back to me on their BIN copy @ $85K, saying that it has been up since January and that it is from a long-time seller. So it appears you are correct that the ebay sale is a fake sale with pictures from 2 other books swiped to make it look authentic. There's really no reason for someone to do this unless they own the same book. Of the 2 copies out there, the CC copy and the CL copy, they don't appear to have any connecion to this "nekobooks" seller from ebay. We will see going forward. They should definitely remove the ebay sale from their records if they haven't already.

It's not entirely clear but a sale is a sale is a sale. Comic Connect, Comic Link and Heritage all will have legit sales so whatever happens with those then that's the price. People spending $50K and up for a comic book aren't stupid, they're doing their DD.

If you think that questioning someone is enough to be ignored, then please ignore me.

Ok, now I see where you're going with this. You should know that the book on Comic Link doesn't appear to have any connection to the $79.5K sale book on ebay (and is now on comic connect). The CL book is likely being sold by dotcomcomics out of Maine, who had it listed as a BIN for $100K in fall of 2019 then a bad sale occurred @ $50K and fell through. No idea why a back cover photo would be re-used. Dishonest? Yes. Does it mean that the sale is a lie? Not necessarily. I've got a note into Comic Connect to see what's up with the same book being listed for $85K. We'll see.

That's not what he's saying. He's saying that Heritage is fraudulently listing pictures of a comic book that isn't the book being sold. It's just not happening, sorry if you don't like the price appreciation of a rare comic book. That site you link to is about shill bidding in non-reserve auctions, and after some checking, doesn't appear to even be a oft-cited claim.

So you're saying that Heritage is being gamed? That's what has to be happening based on your theory. All because a picture appears similar to you. An eBay completed sale can be faked. But Heritage??? Lol, you are smoking some good stuff

Like I told you on the copper age forum, they are different copies: Ebay's copy for $79 K that just sold and the $90K version from last summer on Heritage. Different CGC numbers. Why are you pushing this?

Second prints are the new black. I sold one recently for double what I thought I would get. Just amazing demand.

The ebay book that sold for $79K this past week is the same book listed on CC for $85K BIN. I just sent the seller a message to see what's the deal with that. However, the book that sold for $90K on Heritage last summer is a different book / CGC # than this one. Completely different. Sorry to spoil your conspiracy.

The 9.8 on Ebay apparently just sold for $79,950. I've contacted the seller to see if the buyer has paid and the sale went through. Wow. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-1-CGC-9-8-Mirage-1984-1st-Print-TMNT-2081174001-/202825006465?hash=item2f394ffd81%3Ag%3A3scAAOSwYoZd0eIk&nma=true&si=OuxN9zQit8aUnboiwM1IVxK2GPw%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

This copy "sold" on Comiclink on 12/5/19 for $50K, so clearly that sale fell through. I had the 11/21/19 sale at $52,800...was there another one I missed or are you thinking of this one? link here: https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/alternative-underground/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages/a/7212-91102.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

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Since the crisis I've had a letter and a comic package disappear, working on a second one that hasn't updated status. Not surprising...chaos and confusion can bring out the shiftyness in people. Now I have to get everything scanned and tracked. No more dropping things off unscanned!

Interesting collector. Looks like he's on a mission. Wish I had that kind of buying power.