GeeksAreMyPeeps

In the '90s, a small company called Triumphant dubbed themselves "The Collector's Universe" and serial-numbered their comics, so somewhat similarly, no two covers were alike, because they all had different numbers (if not different art), and you knew exactly how many were out there. I remember some of the titles being well done (I think Adam Pollina's first pro work was for them), but they didn't survive the '90s implosion. I think for this to take off, the story needs to be better than just "okay."

First appearance (cameo) in story; first cover appearance. Other covers for this issue are only cameo appearances. Now how collectors should value this is a different question. A cameo appearance is still an appearance, so the marketing didn't lie.

Based on the discussion earlier, I wonder if CGC intends on relabeling the Comic Bug Edition of Edge of Spider-verse 2 a reprint. That seems logical; printed 6 months later, and after the popularity of Spider-Gwen had taken off.

What if I said to you that it shouldn't have gotten a 8.0, with that top edge?

It's not strange to not allow a variant to fill the registry slot of a book that's not worth grading, if it gets people that are trying to complete the registry to submit a book that they otherwise wouldn't have; from the perspective of CGC's balance sheet, anyway.

I think the book has plenty of upside (but not at that price, of course). It's the first appearance of a character, with a tiny print run (for Marvel), that hasn't appeared in other media, and hasn't really been a solid fixture in the comics yet (and by that, I'm thinking having his own ongoing title, or being the anchor for a consistently published team book. But without either of those, I think this is the sort of book that would be flirting with double-digit prices ungraded, and flirting with triple-digits in 9.8. I think it's going to take both of those things for the book to be worth $800.

I think what's comparable there is that, until the market is studied for some time, there is uncertainty on availability, so people are going to value them differently based on their opinions of what the availability is (and, of course, whether the difference in the books matters). What's not comparable is that the price variants were available in a limited location, so they would not have been available to many people that would have wanted them when they came out. The latter element in determining value (whether the difference in the books matters) is always going to be a factor. Many people won't think it makes a difference. For those that do, I think in time the values will settle into a tighter range. Right now, I still see too many sales listings for Newsstands from the '80s–early '90s that are prices way higher than their availability justifies for (and not even in high grade; sellers are asking silly prices for Newsstands in the F-VF range, which is going to be a typical condition for those books).

Not really. There are always going to be people who aren't collectors that don't think a pricetag is justified. That's not what we're talking about here (at least, not the *only* thing). In the case of Newsstands, we're still dealing with a lot of uncertainty, as for the bulk of the history of collecting, Newsstands and Directs were lumped together when studying the market, so it's not entirely clear exactly where the numbers fall in terms of surviving copies, and copies in high grade. It's starting to get more clear as people study it, but there's still a lot of uncertainly, so results vary quite a bit.

I think just be bringing the subject up, you change the equation. Certainly there are some people out there that don't care one way or the other, but figuring that other people do, will pick up Newsstand Editions because they think other people see value in them, even if they don't themselves.

Well, when *anyone* can create something that *looks* impressive, or structurally seems to be a story, why would anyone bother to pay money to read a book, see a movie, etc., when they can just make their own. The ones with those elements that can't be recreated by a computer will be the ones worth spending money on.

Valiant's Turok (and Magnus) pretty much continued the continuity of the Gold Key books (but Solar was reimagined). But when Acclaim bought out Valiant, they rebooted the line of comics as Acclaim comics, and all of the Valiant characters (including the Gold Key characters) were rebooted. So if you're mainly looking for the first comic of the video game version of the characters, it would be the Acclaim Turoks (and Shadowman) to look for. Shadowman is a tricky one though, because the comic posted earlier in the thread was a variant of the first Acclaim Shadowman book, but it was printed a year after the regular version (which also has a variant printed at the same time).

ChatGPT doesn't know jack about creating compelling characters.

1. Go to my spice cabinet and collect all of the bottles. 2. Travel back 500 years, trade for gold. 3. Travel forward to buy comics.

There may be no *certified* graders, but insofar as someone is paying CGC's graders to grade, that's their profession. Splitting hairs, I know. And in any profession, sometimes people get it wrong.

I've thought about this problem, and figured that the solution would be to gather up the oldest bills you can currently find that aren't worth any more than the newest bills, go back in time to when they were new, exchange them for the oldest bills you can find that aren't worth any more than contemporary bills, and repeat the process until you have valid money from the time period you're buying from.

I guess CGC witnessed someone doing the restoration? What I wonder here is if the restoration was only on the outer of the double covers, shouldn't it technically still be a blue label, since the inner cover would still be in its original form. (Granted that the label doesn't indicate which cover was touched up.)

People probably saw it, and then started hunting for a copy for themselves.

Gotcha. I had never heard of those before; just noticed that in the images you posted.

Since the previous issue has that "Shan-Lon" giveaway edition with the Spidey head, maybe something similar was planned for this issue?

Note this was a panel giveaway, not an exclusive you could purchase. That, and some other panel giveaways (Avengers 6 Blood Hunt cover, G.O.D.S. Design Variant, Bad Idea's Inebrio Horsefeathers and Tankers, DC's Justice League vs. Godzilla vs. Kong connecting covers, and Skybound/Energon's Duke #1). I was a little too far back in the line to get into Marvel's Gang War panel, so I don't know what that giveaway was (assuming there was one).

The Spawn Universe Sampler already sold for $500 (Canadian). https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=spawn+sampler+todd+mcfarlane+&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1

I bought a bunch of these. Works well for the thicker slabs. https://www.bcwsupplies.com/resealable-bag-for-graded-comics-9-x-14

I've seen an ungraded copy of 40 go for over $100 by itself, so I think that's a pretty good deal. I still need that 43 in 9.8 (only have a lowly 9.6 right now).

Magenta and yellow tend to be more susceptible to fading than cyan and black.

Nice! What did this cost you?