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Gotta be Comics for Collectors. Tim has been there forever. I had a great experience back-issue shopping. Worth a visit if you’re ever in Ithaca.
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I’ll take the under.
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Fair point; we see that a lot. I probably didn’t word it exactly. I mean there’s a subset who throws dollars at the perceived best of best. (The new record highs come from somewhere). But on a percentage basis, the whale chasers may well have the effect of lifting others proportionally further along.
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Thought-provoking thread; thank you. I’m very much of two minds on Miller: the case for his impact is easy. It’s almost impossible to overstate his impact. But I didn’t get a lot of enjoyment out of much of it. But that’s me as an individual. while he reignited Batman with DKR, I found the art hard to look at. The story of a dystopian Batman was fascinating like a train wreck. I always thought the big miss was to dismiss Superman as a caricature, a mere metaphor for Big, Bad Establishment, rather than reinvigorate him as well in the conflict of archetypes. I found Year One a lot more entertaining. He certainly (along with Claremont) fleshed out Wolverine and helped create the persona that moved the character to center stage, taking the X-Men from an ensemble cast to one that rode on his back. I’m not a huge fan personally of the brooding, angry anti-hero that constantly has to tell you he’s a bad@ss but I cannot deny he’s widely popular. With Daredevil, he took a 20-plus years established character and completely rebuilt his mythos quite systematically: he borrowed and amplified Kingpin, brought back and repositioned Bullseye, retconned in two major characters into DD’s history (Elektra and Stick), turned Gladiator into a sympathetic, full character… I read it because it was new and different, but it was still fifth read in my stack each issue, behind Avengers, Iron Man, X-Men, Defenders. Again, not squarely my taste, but massively impactful on the medium. Ronin? I still want the time back from reading that. But a lot of people liked it. I prefer reading the bright, sunny worlds of Shooter/Perez/Marcos Avengers (or Byrne/Green), or the Michelinie/JRJR/Layton Iron Man, but Miller’s dark and gritty penchant had huge impact. -
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Thank you @adamstrange for these historic reads! While the old cliche “The more things change, the more they stay the same” sums up the articles, it’s sad that the one theme that did NOT pull through to the same extent over the 50-ish years since those articles came out is the notion of top storylines with strong art being enough reason to consider a book a key. ”Key” has been narrowed so much that many now equate only first appearances with key status. A narrow scope undermines a rich history. We’ve got numerous threads on these boards in which boardies lament the future of comics as collectibles. Lots of young people read comics; casual readers become collectors when learning about the history of the medium we enjoy hooks us. Curiosity creates run collectors and drives back issue sales.
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I’m just happy I got to hold one recently without having to pay a vig to @Professor K! Seriously, while these moments underscore the fact that the top items in our hobby are reachable by fewer and fewer among serious collectors (NOT to say the ultimate buyer isn’t one as well), it’s also a nice confirmation of the hobby’s place in pop culture history. As @shadroch said, a rising tide lifts all boats. But the very best boats do get lifted disproportionately to all others. What always strikes me when we read about another seven-figure book at auction is how many collectors out there who have a seven-figure collection (not necessarily one book) could amass it today — only a subset of that old guard, I’d guess. But there’s buyers. Don’t be sad that the old guard is changing, be thankful there’s a new guard on the buy side. I’m always glad there’s future stewards.
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No offense intended. Its one of the most fun threads on the boards; thank you. I've posted OA before too. I figured over the many years since you started it it had taken on a life of its own. I think we all largely keep to covers most of the time. I thought a peek inside Batman #4 would be an OK brief departure.
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