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Get Marwood & I

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  1. Get Marwood & I
    What's that you say? The mystery of the Harvey 15c variants, you say? Never heard of them!
    Well, I certainly hadn't until last year when, whilst researching the distribution of Harvey comics in the UK by our old friends L Miller & Co, I happened across a book on eBay proclaiming an unexpected cover price. "Oh", I thought, "I didn't know there were price variants for these?", and I started Googleating. I like to think I'm quite good at Googleating now, after years of scouring online for variants, but I couldn't find anything about them. Not one reference, one comment, one loving blog column - nothing. And not one copy on the GCD either, or in any of the usual comic places (including here). Odd.
    More in depth Googling ensued until I finally found one reference in a wonderful book called 'The Harvey Comics Companion' by Mark Arnold, which I duly purchased.
    Here's what it had to say, on page 411: "These (Hot Stuff #110, 111 and Little Dot #143) are the only Harvey books known to have these variants":
      
    "Blimey" I thought, "Only three examples? These are rare", so I started looking for them. Oddly, given the obvious pedigree of Mr Arnold, I soon found quite a few more than the three listed and I thought "Aye, aye, I'm on to something here...."
    Fast forward a year or so and not only have I found a whopping 26 examples, but I've also, I think, established why they exist. That doesn't happen often - the what and the why. And happily, given my UK credentials, I think they exist because we - The UK - exist. I'm going to drop Mark Arnold a line shortly, to let him know what more I've found and it will either be a pleasant surprise for him or he's been keeping updates quiet for the next volume of the Harvey Companion (go buy it by the way, it's brilliant). Mark, if you're reading, Hello 
    Anyway, Harvey 15c price variants exist for at least 26 books dated between April and October 1972. Amazing really, to be posting this information, in depth, for what appears to be the first time, when the books themselves are 50 years old this very year. Happy Birthday, books.
    Here's a nice looking example, with its 20c regular US copy alongside it:
      
    Cracking cover, isn't it. And notice how Harvey always chopped the code off?  
    Read on, if you're interested, for the full fifteen cent variation low down!
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    Pre-1960 UK Price Variants
    Hello 
    I'm not going to post a big explanatory preamble this time, but just note that in this journal I will be looking to see if I can find any pre-1960 dated comics which could reasonably be referred to as 'UK Price Variants'. As we now know, a UK Price Variant is a book made for distribution in the UK, with a single printed UK cover price, but which was printed in the US as a junior subset of the same original print run as the primary cents priced version. We know from my research that UKPVs were produced post 1960 for seven US publishers, but I wanted to see if I could find any books prior to that date, either from the US or another country.
    I have a number of books to post about, so let's get started.
    I recently picked up this copy of 'Skunky Shopkeeper', undated, which carries a stickered one shilling price and an indicia which notes that the book was printed in Canada and distributed in the UK by 'Streamlined Books' (a possible misprint of the 'Streamline' of 'Pictorial Romance' fame?):

    I then picked up a second corner-nibbled copy, also with a sticker, and painstakingly removed it to reveal this apparently overprinted 6d price:

    Here are the two prices, side by side:
     
    So my first thought was 'could this be a UKPV of an original Canadian book?'
    I know very little about Gold and pre-1960s books. I'm sure there are people I could ask, but where's the fun in that? It's something to do, to potter on, explore and learn for yourself. 
    That said, the GCD helpfully tells me that my Canadian Skunky reprints the US comic 'Funland Comics #1'

    So I grab myself a copy of that book, also corner-nibbled:

    Is corner nibbling a thing in Gold?
    The obvious difference of course is the cover which is manifestly absent from 'Skunky'.
    The indicia of Funland advises that the book was printed in the USA, c1945:

    The interior story pages and content are the same as Skunky - here are the two books side by side:
     
    A bit of Googling brings me to this image below, source unknown, which shows my Skunky as being one of a number of coverless Canadian comics, overprinted with UK prices by Superior/Century Publications for distribution in the UK by Streamlined of London:

    It further says "The majority of these were remainders". Hold that thought.
    The assumption is that I have two copies of a comic that was printed in the USA for Croydon Publishing, of which unsold copies were picked up by Superior/Century Publications of Canada, who then stripped them of their covers and then overprinted them with a UK price (which were then subsequently stickered at a higher price).
    Incidentally, could the 6d overprinted price be for Canadian sales and the copies sent to the UK be marked up with the one shilling sticker? Mebbe.
    Back to the pre-1960 UKPV search, can the coverless guts of an original US book, that is then overprinted with a UK/Canadian price in Canada be considered a variant? It can't really, can it. Now if there was a copy of Funland #1 with a printed UK single price, which came from the same print run, then yes. But amended guts? That's pushing it a bit.
    Anyway, on inspection, the guts that comprise 'Skunky' do not actually appear to be remaindered copies of Funland #1 at all. If we look closely at these examples, we can see:
    1. A very different print quality and colouring - Funland is clean, Skunky has got all the sloppy production marks that tend to indicate a crude reprinting:
     
    The next two images show that clearly too - one clean, one with additional bits and bobs and an inferior production quality:
     
    2. Next, we can see that the two sets of guts have different overall dimensions:

    3. Any notion that that might be due to trimming evaporates when you see that the actual printed images are slightly bigger on the Skunky page than on the Funland original:
     
    4. The staples location is different on the two books too, and the Skunky ones are much bigger than the Funland's:

    My staple's bigger than yours mate!
    All the evidence, which is much clearer in hand I might add, indicates that our Canadian Skunky was reprinted rather than being a cover-stripped, remaindered original US book. So the 'Printed in Canada' of the indicia refers not just to the price / logo overprinting, but the whole book. From a UKPV search perspective, that takes Funland #1 out of the equation, as a UKPV must come from the same print run as the headline country copy. That leaves us with Canadian Skunky.
    Every copy of Skunky that I have seen has the 6d overprinted price. Now, if someone was going to reprint the guts, why would they then overprint a UK price? Why not do it all in one go? I say this, as I have noted that the 6d price moves from copy to copy (my copy vs GCD copy below):
     
    In summary, it looks like Superior Publishers of Canada obtained the rights (?) to reprint the guts of Croydon Publishing's Funland #1, minus the cover, did so and then added their company livery, an indicia and a 6d price. They then either sent the whole lot to the UK, who promptly increased that price with a sticker, or sold some of the 6d copies locally in Canada. 
    Even if we view Skunky as its own thing, separate to Funland, there is only one reprinted/overprinted version in existence it seems, so it can't be a UK Price Variant. If there was a majority 6d printed Canadian copy and a lesser UK one shilling printed copy, both printed together, we could perhaps make an argument. But there isn't. It seems.
    I rather enjoyed the exercise though, on this book, and it's fun to learn more about books of this age by mucking about with them directly and holding them in your hands. Especially when they include stories such as "Angel Pussy", the pages of which further illustrate the colour and quality contrast between the two books:

    Play nicely, Angel Pussy!
    Well, that's Funland vs Skunky out of the way, to get the ball rolling. Next up, Jeep Comics. Or Lucky Coyne. Or maybe K G Murray's Super Adventure Comic. Or another one of the various candidates I've amassed over recent years. I'll see which one takes my fancy before dropping Wonder Comics into the mix. 
    See you next time then, if you're interested....

     
  3. Get Marwood & I

    Streamline Pictorial Romance
    This is a Streamline Pictorial Romance Journal Entry
    Hello 
    Every now and again I like to collect and showcase a group of British books that sit some way off of the average collector's radar. I'm sure there are experts and romance collectors out there who know all or a bit about them, but they don't appear to have shared much information online if so. Indeed, most of them don't even appear on the GCD, with only five issues listed at the time of writing. Still, I wouldn't want to see them disappear into comic obscurity so they can have an online appreciative home here for as long as CGC keep the lights on.
    I'm by no means an expert on these myself, to be clear, but I've been collecting examples for a while now and thought I'd now spread the word on them a bit to perhaps see how many we can confirm exist.
    I'll add details of the indicias, size, page count and story content against each issue as I go, and will have a go at identifying the original publication reproduced too. I may have a go at identifying an order of publication too, using things like size, format, quality, pricing and font variations...

    Well, it's something to do, isn't it.
    I've created a Gallery for these books too, of the copies I own, if only to have a go at mucking about with available board functionality. It's a bit clunky though, the Invision Gallery software, hence this hopefully easier to read / interact with journal entry. You can find that Gallery here:
    Click on
    Where else could you expect to see Cathy and I, by Get Marwood & I...

    All good fun 
    So there we have it - Streamline Pictorial Romance comic books; they're crudely made, appealingly basic - rare as hens teeth (and about as valuable) - and I love them.
    I hope some of you do too.
    N.B. This journal is best viewed on a desktop device
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    Australian Price Variants
    Marvel Australian Price Variants
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of the Marvel Australian Price Variants that I have discovered hiding between the dates of January 1991 and November 1996.
    Australian Price Variants (APVs) were printed in the USA at the same time as their cents priced headliners. They are not reprints. If you would like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the discussion thread in which we talk about them:
              
     
    Notes and Observations
    110 Marvel titles have been found with one or more AUS single priced issues (note: annual titles are recorded separately, i.e. ASM and ASM Annual are recorded as two separate titles). Only official ‘regular sized’ first printing Marvel comics have been captured – magazines, fanzines, reprints and over-sized publications are excluded 1,339 issues have been found across the confirmed 110 titles so far All issues are newsstand copies. No AUS direct editions have been found Australian priced issues exist in two cover date blocks: (AUS) January 1991 ~ (AUS) April 1994 inclusive US February 1996 ~ US November 1996 inclusive All ‘first wave’ AUS issues cover dated January 1991 to April 1994 inclusive have cover dates that are 3 months later than their US counterparts (presumed to accommodate shipping times). For an AUS book cover dated January 1991, the US version will be dated October 1990. The indicias of both copies are as per the US versions. Often, the barcode month numbering reflects the three month gap (i.e. when comparing an APV to it's US newsstand copy equivalent) All ‘second wave’ AUS issues cover dated February 1996 to November 1996 inclusive have the same cover dates / indicias as their US counterparts No AUS issues have been found between cover dates May 1994 (AUS dating) and January 1996 (US dating) inclusive – this block separates the two known runs of AUS books For the first January 1991 AUS issues, Avengers West Coast (#63 & 64) and Daredevil (#285 & 286) have two issues cover dated January 1991 Many of the final November 1996 dated titles are priced at $2.75 whereas the preceding 1996 issues were priced at $3.20 Ten Annual titles have been found so far – Amazing Spider-Man #27, The Incredible Hulk #19, The Punisher #6, Silver Surfer #6, The Spectacular Spider-Man #13, The Mighty Thor #18, The Uncanny X-Men #17, X-Factor #8, X-Force #2 and X-Men #2. All are 1993 annuals and all have an AUS cover price of $4.75 Only five titles have been found to have issues cover dated April 1994 (AUS dating) – Captain America #423, Ravage #14, Spider-Man 2099 #15, Spider-Man Classics #10 and Web of Spider-Man #108. Issues for this date appear particularly scarce and, by way of illustration, no Amazing Spider-Man #385 has been found in ten years of searching Only eight titles have been found to have issues cover dated March 1996 (US dating) – Generation X #13, Marvel vs DC #2, Uncanny X-Men #330, Wolverine #99, X-Factor #250, X-Force #52, X-Man #13 and X-Men #50. Issues for this date appear particularly scarce and, by way of illustration, no Amazing Spider-Man #409 has been found in ten years of searching Bi-monthly ‘early / late’ issues exist for many titles between AUS cover dates of October 1991 to April 1992 and, the same months for the following year, October 1992 to April 1993 There are currently no obvious gaps where different titles are missing issues for the same months. Analysis suggests that some titles do appear to have limited issues produced however. For example, the title Ghost Rider has a potential AUS issue range of #6-75. No AUS issues have been found for 6-19, but most of the issues from 20-45 have been found. This indicates that 6-19 may not have been produced as the likelihood of not one issue surfacing are slim. In a similar vein, The Avengers has all copies between issues 325-363 confirmed but not one after In respect of whether all issues for each title exist, the McFarlane 1990 Spider-Man run could have AUS copies for issues #3-74 yet only ten copies have been found so far. All the hologram issue #26’s found available from AUS sellers online are the US newsstand copy and CGC has no graded copies (whereas it does for the Spectacular Spider-Man #189 copy of the same month). So it may turn out that, like the UK price variant copies, not all issues of each confirmed title will have AUS copies Many titles exist for which no AUS copy has been found. Many notable titles are missing copies, e.g. Doctor Strange. For this title, every issue on eBay Australia is a US copy. It seems unlikely that a copy has yet to surface and this indicates that many titles are likely to have been omitted from the AUS treatment (this also mirrors the UK price variant scenario where many titles did not have pence copies produced) In respect of content, the only differences identified between the AUS and US newsstand copies are the price and, in respect of the first run of books, the cover date / barcode month numbering. No other generic differences have been found For the 110 titles found so far, there is a maximum number of 1,721 issues available within the (AUS) January 1991 to November 1996 date ranges, excluding the May 94~Jan 96 period where no copies have been found. However, it is clear that of those remaining titles, many appear to have gaps and missing issues which may not have been produced. Given how scarce many are, it may be difficult to impossible to confirm a definitive AUS issue total Regular sized issues are priced at AUS $1.50 from January 1991, increasing to AUS $1.80 from May 1992. The price increases again to AUS $1.95 from July / August 1993. Issues from February 1996 tend to be priced at AUS $2.50 or $3.20 with the final November 1996 issues priced at AUS $2.00, $2.75 or $3.95. Individual special / double sized issues can vary wildly and can be priced up to AUS $6.50 (Midnight Sons Unlimited #1). All ten known annuals are priced at AUS $4.75 In addition to the standard comic sized titles documented above, 3 magazine titles are confirmed to have APV's, all now believed to be complete: Conan Saga - 39 of 40 possible / 39 expected confirmed (all first wave books) Conan the Savage - 4 of 4 confirmed (all second wave books) Savage Sword of Conan - 39 of 40 possible / 39 expected confirmed (all first wave books) Happy hunting, if you decide to build a set!
    By Stephen Cranch based on v11.1 of the ‘Marvel Australian Price Variants Summary’ (19.02.24)
     
     
    Confirmed Australian Price Variant Titles / Issues
     
    Title Possible APV Issue Range* Confirmed APV Issue Numbers       Total               2099 Unlimited  1-3 1-2 2 Adventures of Spider-Man 1-8 8 1 Adventures of The X-Men / Adventures of Spider-Man (Flip-Book) 1-8 3-7 5 Alf 34-50 35-46 12 Amazing Spider-Man 340-385, 408-417 341-384, 408, 410-417 53 Amazing Spider-Man Annual (1993 Only) 27 27 1 Avengers 325-370, 395-402 325-363 39 Avengers (1996) 1 1 1 Avengers West Coast 63-102 63-92 30 Barbie 1-35 1-4, 8-19, 21-27, 34, 36 25 Barbie Fashion 1-35 1-6, 10, 12-19, 21-26, 34-36 24 Blaze: Legacy of Blood (1-4) 1-2 1 1 Bruce Wayne: Agent of Shield 1 1 1 Bullets and Bracelets 1 1 1 Cable 1-7, 28-37 2-6 5 Cable - Blood and Metal 1-2 1 1 Cage 1-20 3-12 10 Captain America 378-423, 448-454 378-423 46 Captain America (1996) 1 1 1 Clive Barker - Ectokid 1-5 1-4 4 Clive Barker - Hokum & Hex 1-5 1-4 4 Clive Barker - Hyperkind 1-5 1-3 3 Clive Barker - Saint Sinner 1-4 1-3 3 Conan The Barbarian 237-275 237-275 39 Daredevil 285-324, 349-358 285-314 30 Darkhold - Pages From the Book of Sins 1-16 1-6 6 Disney Comic Hits 5-14 13 1 Doom 2099 1-13, 38-44 1-12 12 Elektra 1 1 1 Fantastic Four, The 345-384, 409-416 345-374 30 Fantastic Four, The 1996 Series 1 1 1 Gambit 1-2 1 1 Generation X 12-21 12-21 10 G.I. Joe 105-144 105-143 39 Ghost Rider, The 6-45, 70-75 19-29, 31-44 25 Ghost Rider Annual 1 1 1 Ghost Rider / Blaze: Spirits of Vengeance 1-18 1-16 16 Incredible Hulk, The 374-413, 438-447 374-412, 447 40 Incredible Hulk Annual, The 19 19 1 Independence Day 0-2 0-2 3 Infinity Crusade 1-6 1-6 6 Infinity War 1-6 2-6 5 Iron Man (261-332) 261-300, 325-332 261-299 39 Iron Man 1996 Series 1 1 1 Lethal Foes of Spider-Man 1-4 1-4 4 Magneto and The Magnetic Men 1 1 1 Marvel Tales 242-281 242-280 39 Marvel Versus DC 2-3 2-3 2 Midnight Sons Unlimited 1-4 1 1 Mission Impossible 1 1 1 Morbius The Living Vampire 1-17 1-12 12 New Mutants, The 94-100 94-100 7 Nightstalkers 1-15 1-5 5 Night Thrasher 1-6 1-5 5 Night Thrasher: Four Control 1-4 2-4 3 Onslaught: X-Men (#1 Only) 1 1 1 Punisher, The 41-86 41-85 45 Punisher 2099, The 1-12 1-11 11 Punisher Annual, The 6 6 1 Punisher Holiday Special 1-2 1 1 Punisher: The Origin of Microchip 1-2 1-2 2 Punisher Summer Special 1-3 3 1 Ravage 2099 1-14 1-14 14 Ren & Stimpy Show, The 1-14, 39-44 12-13 2 Sabretooth 1-4 1, 3 2 Secret Defenders, The 1-11 1-10 10 Sensational Spider-Man, The 1-10 1, 3-10 9 Silver Surfer 42-88, 113-122 42-87 46 Silver Surfer Annual (1993 Only) 6 6 1 Silver Surfer / Warlock: Resurrection 1-4 1-4 4 Spectacular Spider-Man 169-208, 231-240 169-207, 231, 233-238, 240 47 Spectacular Spider-Man Annual (1993 Only) 13 13 1 Speed Demon 1 1 1 Spider-Boy 1 1 1 Spider-Man 1990 3-42, 65-74 32-41, 65, 67-74 19 Spider-Man 2099 1-15, 40-46 1-15, 42-46 20 Spider-Man Classics 1-10 1-10 10 Spider-Man Unlimited 1-3, 11-14 1-3 3 Spider-Woman (1-4) 1-3 1-2 2 Star Trek Voyager 1 1 1 Stryfe's Strike File 1 1 1 Tekworld 1-17 1-7 7 Thor, The Mighty 424-470, 495-502 425-469 45 Thor, The Mighty Annual 18 18 1 Thunderstrike 1-4 1-3 3 Transformers 71-80 71-80 10 Transformers: Generation 2 (1-12) 1-3 1 1 Uncanny X-Men 269-308, 329-338 269-307, 329-338 49 Uncanny X-Men Annual 17 17 1 Venom, Funeral Pyre  1-3 1-3 3 Venom, Lethal Protector  1-6 1-6 6 Venom, The Madness 1-3 1-2 2 Warlock Chronicles  1-6 1-6 6 Web of Spider-Man  69-108 69-108 40 Web of Spider-Man Annual 9 9 1 What If… 18-57, 82-91 18-56, 84-91 47 Wolverine  32-77, 98-107 48-56, 58-76, 98-107 38 Wolverine and The Punisher: Damaging Evidence  1-3 1-3 3 X-Factor  59-98, 119-128 59-97, 119-128 49 X-Factor Annual 8 8 1 X-Force  1-30, 51-60 1, 3-29, 51-60 38 X-Force Annual 2 2 1 X-Man 12-21 12-21 10 X-Men 1-28, 49-58 1a, 1b, 1c, 1d, 2-26, 49-58 39 X-Men Annual 2 2 1 X-Men 2099  1-4, 29-35 1-3 3 X-Men Adventures 1-15 1-14 14 X-Men Unlimited 1-3, 10-12 1-2 2 X-Men vs Dracula 1 1 1 X-Patrol 1 1 1                                         Actual Issues in APV Cover Date Range:   1,721                                                  Confirmed APV Total:        1,339         *Based on current known cover dates                         Magazines               Title Possible APV Issue Range* Confirmed APV Issue Numbers       Total         Conan Saga (43-97) 43-82 43-81 39 Conan the Savage (7-10) 7-10 7-10 4 Savage Sword of Conan (178-235) 178-217 178-216 39         Actual Issues in APV Cover Date Range:             84      Confirmed APV Total:   82         *Based on current known cover dates                      
     
     
     
     
       
     
       
     

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    UK Price Variants
    DC Comics - UK Price Variants
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of the DC UK Price Variants that I have found hiding between the dates of July/August 1971 and February 1978 to September 1981.
    UK Price Variants were printed in the USA at the same time as their cents priced counterparts. They are part of the same first printing run and are not reprints. If you would like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the Archie discussion thread in which we talk about them in more detail:
           
    The Headlines
    DC UK Price Variants have been found to exist between the cover dates of July/August 1971 and February 1978 to September 1981 inclusive. Across those cover dates, a total of 1,227 cents priced comics exist spanning 85 titles. At the time of writing, 840 of them have a matching single printed price UKPV confirmed spanning 54 of the 85 overall titles. The first known pence printed DC comics are Action Comics #402, Adventure Comics #408, Detective comics #413 and Jimmy Olsen #139 all cover dated July 1971 and priced at 5p. The Flash #208 follows on its own with an August 1971 cover date and, uniquely, priced at 7 ½ pence. No pence printed issues have been found to exist dated prior to these dates, nor after (until we hit February 1978). July 1971 is, incidentally, the final US 15c regular cover price date, which may have a bearing on why it was chosen. I have found no explanation for why only 5 of the many available titles cover dated July/August 1971 were chosen, or indeed why those particular 5 titles were chosen. We have to jump forward 8 years before pence copies recommence for what would be a 3 year period from the cover date February 1978. I have found no copies dated prior to this date other than the five July/August 1971 books. Not all titles commence at February 1978 however – many commence on March 1978 holding out the possibility that some February 1978 copies may yet still exist / be found for those titles. The last pence printed DC comics are cover dated September 1981. From October 1981, DC introduced dual cents / pence pricing for all their titles. Marvel did the same 3 months later (December 1981). 85 DC titles exist with cover dates that cross the July/August 1971 and February 1978 through to September 1981 periods. Of those 85, 31 titles appear to have no pence copies (listed below). For monthly titles only, no pence copies have been found for comics cover dated September 1978 to November 1978 inclusive. All monthly titles which cross these dates have a 3 issue gap. This gap coincides with, and is likely explained by, the increase and subsequent decrease in the US cover prices (35c to 50c September 1978 / 50c to 40c December 1978). For bi-monthly titles, September 1978 dated issues exist, but no pence issues exist for the following two months. Only four prices exist for DC pence comics – 5p (July 1971), 7 ½ p (August 1971), 12p (February 1978 to August 1979) and 15p (September 1979 to September 1981). Unlike Marvel, who would raise the cover price where applicable, DC would not produce a pence copy if the issue was double sized / the US price increased. As an example, Detective Comics #500 was a double sized issue. Rather than increase the price from 15p DC simply omitted the issue from pence production. This pattern is absolute – there are no double sized DC pence issues (with the exception of The Flash #208), and any one-off deviation in the US price would mean no pence copy (hard on UK collectors!). No annuals have been found as pence only printed copies, presumably for the same reason that double sized / non-standard priced copies have been. A small number of Treasury Sized books are know to exist. Unlike Marvel, DC pence copies are distinguished by the pence price alone. No other changes are made (e.g. removing the cover date, additional indicia distribution data, different cover banners). The only known exception to this is The Flash #208 which, as well as being the only known 7 ½p priced issue, has the distinction of being the only pence book with an additional cosmetic cover difference (the necessary omission of the 25c spine price). The working assumption is that DC pence copies were requested by, and distributed by Thorpe & Porter. Whilst no copies exist with Thorpe & Porter Indicias (as is the case with some early Marvels), their price stamps can be found all over DC books in the UK from 1959 onwards.  
    Happy hunting, if you decide to build a set!
    29/09/20
    By Stephen Cranch based on v1.6 of the ‘DC Comics – UK Price Variants Summary’
    
    Confirmed UK Price Variant Titles / Issues         Title Confirmed UKPV Issues             Total        Action Comics 402, 480-486, 490-499, 501-523 41 Adventure Comics 408, 456-458, 473-485 17 All Star Comics 71-73 3 All Star Squadron 1 1 Aquaman 60-63 4 Arak Son of Thunder 1 1 Batman 297-299, 301-302, 306-339 39 Black Lightning 7-10 4 Brave and The Bold 140-142, 145-178 37 Challengers of The Unknown 85-87 3 Claw the Unconquered 10-12 3 DC Comics Presents 1, 4-37 35 Detective Comics 413, 475-478, 496-499, 501-506 15 Doorway to Nightmare 2-4 3 Firestorm the Nuclear Man 1-4 4 Flash 208, 259-264, 268-299, 301 40 Freedom Fighters 13-15 3 Ghosts 61-67, 71-104 41 Green Lantern 101-107, 111-144 41 House of Mystery 263-296 34 House of Secrets 151-153 3 Jonah Hex 10-15 6 Justice League of America 161-194 34 Kamandi 56-58 3 Karate Kid 13-15 3 Krypton Chronicles 1 1 Legion of Super Heroes 259-279 21 Men of War 11-26 16 Mister Miracle 23-25 3 Mystery in Space 111-117 7 New Adventures of Superboy 1-21 21 New Gods 17-19 3 New Teen Titans 1-11 11 Secret Society of Super-Villains 13-15 3 Secrets of Haunted House 11-13, 17-40 27 Secrets of The Legion of Super Heroes 1-3 3 Sgt. Rock 323-356 34 Shade the Changing Man 6-8 3 Shazam! 34-35 2 Showcase 97, 101-103 4 Star Hunters 3-6 4 Steel the Indestructible Man 1-4 4 Super Friends 10-13, 15-47 37 Superboy and The Legion of Super Heroes 246-258 13 Superman 321-326, 330-363 40 Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen 139 1 Tales of The Green Lantern Corps 1-3 3 Unexpected 184-186, 200-214 18 Unknown Soldier 222-255 34 Untold Legends of The Batman 1-3 3 Weird War Tales 70-103 34 Weird Western Tales 45-47, 50-70 24 Witching Hour 77-83 7 Wonder Woman 240-246, 250-283 41          Confirmed UKPV Total:                 840  
     
    Titles With No UK Price Variant Issues Produced / Confirmed       Title  Title Count     All-Out War ($1.00 Title) 1 All-Star Western (#6 July 1971) 1 Army At War (One Shot Crosses Sep/Nov 78 Price Increase) 1 Batman Family ($1.00 Title) 1 Battle Classics (One Shot Crosses Sep/Nov 78 Price Increase) 1 Binky (July 1971 #79 Double Size Issue) 1 DC Super Stars (#18 Jan/Feb 1978 Final Issue (Cover Dated 'Winter') Double Size Issue) 1 Dynamic Classics (One Shot Crosses Sep/Nov 78 Price Increase) 1 Falling In Love (#124 July 1971) 1 The Forever People (#3 July 1971) 1 From Beyond The Unknown (#11 July 1971) 1 G.I. Combat (#148 Double Size Issue / $1.00 Title) 1 Girls' Love Stories (#160 July 1971) 1 Girls' Romances (#158 July 1971) 1 Heart Throbs (#132 July 1971) 1 Madame Xanadu ($1.00 One Shot) 1 Metal Men (#56 March 1978 Final Issue) 1 Secret Hearts (#153 July 1971) 1 Star Spangled War Stories (#157 July 1971) 1 Sugar And Spike (#96 July 1971) 1 Superboy Spectacular (1980 $1.00 One Shot) 1 Superman Family ($1.00 Title) 1 Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane (#111 July 1971) 1 Swing With Scooter (#34 July 1971) 1 Teen Titans (#53 Feb 1978 Final Issue) 1 Time Warp ($1.00 Title) 1 Warlord (Probable Clash With UK Warlord Title) 1 Welcome Back Kotter (#10 US Only TV Show) 1 World's Finest ($1.00 Title) 1 World of Krypton (1-3 Regular Priced Limited Series) 1 Young Romance (#172 July 1971) 1     Title Total:  31  
    Here are the five July / August 1971 books 

     
     
     
     
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    Marvel 1999 ~ 2000 US Newsstand Price Variants
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of the Marvel Newsstand Price Variants that I have found hiding between the dates of October 1999 and February 2000. If you'd like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the discussion thread in which we talk about them:
                     
                                   
    Notes and Observations
    Most comic collectors have heard of the 30 and 35 cent variants which Marvel produced in limited numbers during the 1970s to test how the market would react to increasing the cover price of their comics. Less well known is the fact that, in late 1999 / early 2000, Marvel again produced newsstand copies with higher prices than the then standard $1.99 newsstand price, appearing to repeat that market price resistance test. I say 'appearing to' deliberately, as there is no actual evidence that the higher priced issues in this post were intended to be market testers. But that seems to be the only logical conclusion at present.
    I have been researching these books for over ten years now, having first discovered them as a Spider-Man completist. Others have been aware of them, but I don't think anyone else has tracked them to the extent that I have and tried to summarise exactly what exists. 
    There are two variant newsstand prices known - $2.29 and $2.49 - for a limited number of books which had a standard newsstand price of $1.99.
    Here are three differently priced Amazing Spider-Man #10 newsstand copies to illustrate:
       
                          Standard $1.99 Issue                                             Variant $2.29 Issue                                               Variant $2.49 Issue
     
    Here is a summary chart which I put together to show what titles / issues have been found so far:

    Looking at the chart, we can see that:
    Only six titles have been found to have newsstand price variants from the scores of titles in production at the time. Those titles are Amazing Spider-Man, Cable, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Thor and X-Men 32 variants are currently known to exist across those six titles Variants are priced at either $2.29 and/or $2.49 - no other variant newsstand prices exist Price variants only exist where the standard book is a $1.99 'regular' size issue - no variants have been found to exist where the standard issue is priced at $2.99 / is 'double sized' Only one Feb 2000 dated book has been found - Fantastic Four #26 No title has variant issues in all of the 5 known months (Fantastic Four for example has the only Feb 2000 variant issue, but no Oct 1999 variant issue) No title has more than six price variants  My current guess, based on no more than the patterns shown in the chart, the amount of time spent looking, and the lack of other copies found, is that no title will yield more than six variant issues (3 x $2.29 plus 3 x $2.49). If correct:
    Amazing Spider-Man is 'complete', and no copies will be found for February 2000 Cable will have three more variant copies - #72 ($2.49), #73 ($2.29) and #74 ($2.29) ** See update below 23/06/2023 ** Fantastic Four is 'complete', and no copies will be found for October 1999 Hulk is 'complete', and no copies will be found for October 1999 / February 2000 Thor will have one more variant copy - #17 ($2.49) X-Men is 'complete', and no copies will be found for February 2000 This means that a further four copies may exist, pushing the overall total to 36. Only time will tell if this 'gut feel' turns out to be true!
    In the main, the variant price is the only immediately obvious difference between the variant and standard editions but some copies (not all) have variant indicias which show the variant cover price - the two examples below show each indicia scenario:

                                                                             $2.29 variant with standard $1.99 indicia

                                                                          $2.49 variant with variant $2.49 indicia
     
    These books are fairly difficult to find and, in some cases, the image I have in the files is the only copy I have ever seen. So happy hunting, if you decide to build a set!
    22/01/20
    By Stephen Cranch based on v2.6 of the 'Marvel 1999 ~ 2000 US Newsstand Price Variants Summary'
     
    N.B. Those that follow my discussion thread will know that the regular $1.99 priced newsstand copy of Thor #19 has been on the missing list since I started the thread in 2016, proving more elusive than the variant priced copies. I finally found evidence of a copy on the 21/01/20 to confirm that it does actually exist. A second copy appeared shortly after as if often the case. 
     
    Update 23/06/2023
    A Cable $2.29 #74 was found by board member JonnyT2008 (see discussion thread) - this brings us up to 34 price variants:

    I believe December 1999 and Jan/Feb 2000 are now complete. If my six issue per title theory is correct, the following issues may yet appear:
    Cable #72 ($2.49) and #73 ($2.29)  Time will tell.....
     
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    UK Price Variants
    Marvel Comics - UK Price Variants
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of the Marvel UK Price Variants that I have discovered hiding between the dates of May 1960 and December 1981 inclusive.
    UK Price Variants were printed in the USA at the same time as their cents priced counterparts. They are part of the same first printing run and are not reprints. If you would like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the Archie discussion thread in which we talk about them in more detail:
             
    In April 2019, CGC changed their labels from "UK Edition" to the more appropriate "UK Price Variant" for these first printing books. You can see their official confirmation of this here 
    Meanwhile, here is an up to date summary of what I have discovered so far, which I hope you will find interesting.
    The Headlines
    Marvel UK Price Variants (UKPVs) have been found to exist between the cover dates of May 1960 to December 1981 inclusive. Across those cover dates, a total of 6,744 cents priced comics exist spanning 260 titles. At the time of writing, 3,023 of them have a matching single printed price UKPV confirmed spanning 119 of the 260 overall titles. The comics are believed to have been printed at the same time and in the same location as their US cents priced counterparts, but with pence only printed cover prices and, in the early years, regional UK indicias. There is currently no evidence to determine which books were printed first – cents or pence – or indeed whether they alternated (Matt Nelson of CGC has taken up the challenge of trying to establish the sequence, having noted page quality differences between pence and cents copies). The first Marvel UKPVs known are Gunsmoke Western #58 and Journey into Mystery #58 cover dated May 1960. No pence copies dated prior to May 1960 have been found: Gunsmoke Western #58 (with a regional L Miller & Co indicia) Journey into Mystery #58 (with a regional Thorpe & Porter indicia) The last UKPVs are cover dated December 1981. From January 1982, Marvel introduced dual cents / pence pricing for all their Direct Editions, effectively ending the existence of UK Price Variants for Marvel (Newsstand Editions remained cents only priced). No UKPVs have been found for comics cover dated December 1964 to July 1965 inclusive. Most monthly titles have a 9 or 10 issue gap around these dates, potentially due to shipping strikes. Almost every title which crosses the cover dates of October 1966 to December 1966 has a two issue pence gap. This may explain why Amazing Spider-Man completists haven’t found #42 and #43 yet - they probably don’t exist.Ditto Avengers 33/34, Daredevil 21/22, Fantastic Four 56/57, Sgt Fury 35/36, Tales to Astonish 85/86. However, Strange Tales only misses one issue (#151) as does Tales of Suspense (#84). Two-Gun Kid has all issues as pence copies but as a bi-monthly title you can see there may have been a missing issue had it been monthly. No UKPVs have been found for comics cover dated December 1967 to March 1969 inclusive – a 16 issue gap. No UKPVs have been found for comics cover dated April 1974 to July 1974 inclusive. This 4 issue gap coincides with the transition from 6p to 7p. No UKPVs have been found for comics cover dated February 1981 to March 1981 inclusive. This 2 issue gap coincides with the transition from 15p to 20p. Many single issues do not appear to exist when the issue was double sized, e.g. Avengers #200, Astonishing Tales #8, Ghost Rider #50, The Invaders #41, Thor #300, X-Men #137 No UKPVs have been found for the ‘Giant Size’ titles of 1974 and 1975 (72 issues across 28 titles). Only 5 annuals have been found with pence only printed copies, all cover dated 1965 (Amazing Spider-Man #2, Fantastic Four #3, Journey into Mystery #1, Marvel Tales #2, Sgt Fury #1). A further 96 issues exist without UKPVs across 32 titles. All UKPVs were requested by and distributed in the UK by Thorpe and Porter. The only known exceptions are the following 9d cover priced issues which were exclusively distributed by L Miller & Co (Thorpe & Porter took over these three titles from September 1961, becoming the sole distributor for Marvel comics in the UK from this point): Gunsmoke Western #58 and 59 Rawhide Kid #17 Two-Gun Kid #54 and 55 The following pence prices exist: 9d, 10d, 1/- (one shilling), 6p, 7p, 8p, 9p, 10p, 12p, 15p, 20p, 30p and 40p. No other cover prices exist. In November 1971, UK cover prices changed from ‘old money’ to new as a result of decimalisation. Accordingly, UK copies changed from a one shilling price (1/-) to the modern pence price. The November 1971 US issues of the time were mostly one off 25c over sized issues and ten pence priced copies are known to exist. Of those ten, six were priced at 8p and four were priced at what would become the standard price of 6p. Despite better reflecting the increased content of the oversized issues, the 8p price appears to have been a mistake as many UK copies can be found with a standardised 6p sticker covering the 8p printed price: Amazing Adventures #9, 6p Amazing Spider-Man #102, 8p Avengers #93, 8p Conan The Barbarian #11, 6p Daredevil #81, 8p Fantastic Four #116, 6p Incredible Hulk #145, 8p Sub-Mariner #43, 8p Thor #193, 8p Where Monsters Dwell #12, 6p As well as the 3,022 ‘regular sized’ comics, 23 Treasury Sized Editions exist with 50p and 75p cover prices (see my discussion thread for the full list). A handful of magazine titles also exist. Marvel UK Price Variants differ from those of other publishers in as much as they have a number of printed differences between the pence and cents copies, and those differences vary throughout the UKPV production period. Early books have missing cover months, regional UK indicias and, of course, pence cover prices. Later in the run, the cover mastheads were amended to 'Marvel All-Colour Comics' to inform the UK audience that these books were indeed printed in colour (many UK reprints were not). I have covered every known difference in the discussion thread. So, only 3,023 books to collect if you want the set. Marvel have the most price variants of any publisher by far and I feel they are the most interesting to study with so many quirks and variations to track. I believe that there are no more UKPV books to be discovered, based on my research into regional indicias and US price fonts. Only time will tell if I'm right.
    Happy hunting, if you decide to build a set!
    13/03/21
    By Stephen Cranch based on v5.1 of the ‘Marvel Comics – UK Price Variants Summary’
     
    Confirmed UK Price Variant Titles / Issues             Title Confirmed UKPV Issues Total    Title Count         2001: A Space Odyssey 1-10 10 1 Amazing Adult Fantasy 7-14 8 1 Amazing Adventures  5-6 2 1 Amazing Adventures 2nd Series 3-22, 26-39 34 1 Amazing Fantasy 15 1 1 Amazing Spider-Man 1-17, 28-41, 44-54, 71-120, 215-223 101 1 Amazing Spider-Man Annual 2 1 1 Astonishing Tales 2-7, 9-22, 25-36 32 1 The Avengers 1-8, 19-32, 35-45, 63-120, 153-182, 184-199, 201-203, 206-214 149 1 Battle 70 1 1 Battlestar Galactica 2, 9, 19 3 1 Black Goliath 1-5 5 1 Black Panther 1, 7-15 10 1 Captain America 159-171, 176-253, 256-264 100 1 Captain Marvel 12-21, 25-30, 34-48, 53-62 41 1 Chamber of Chills 19, 20, 22, 25 4 1 Chamber of Darkness 6-8 3 1 The Champions 1-12 12 1 Conan The Barbarian 11-35, 41-53, 57-81, 121-129 72 1 Creatures On The Loose 31-37 7 1 Crypt of Shadows 21 1 1 Daredevil 1-3, 9-20, 23-33, 51-108, 112-149, 151-160, 163-168, 170-177 146 1 Dazzler 2-10 9 1 Dead Of Night 10 1 1 Defenders 4-7, 9, 11-12, 15-54, 71-91, 94-102 77 1 Doctor Strange 4-21, 25-34, 46-50 33 1 The Eternals 1-18 18 1 Fantastic Four 1-31, 42-55, 58-68, 85-143, 149-175, 177-189, 212, 229-237 165 1 Fantastic Four Annual 3 1 1 Fantasy Masterpieces 1-2 2 1 Fear (Adventure Into) 23-31 9 1 Frankenstein 12-18 7 1 The Ghost Rider 1-6 6 1 Ghost Rider 1-4, 7, 9-19, 22, 36, 39-49, 51-52, 55-63 40 1 Gunsmoke Western 58, 59, 66-77 14 1 Howard The Duck 1-26 26 1 The Human Fly 1-19 19 1 The Human Torch 8 1 1 Incredible Hulk 1-6, 114-152, 161-166, 258-266 60 1 The Inhumans 1-9 9 1 The Invaders 3-40 38 1 Iron Fist 3-7 5 1 Iron Man 12-42, 47-66, 69, 71-111, 122-142, 145, 147-153 122 1 John Carter Warlord Of Mars 24-28 5 1 Journey Into Mystery 58-60, 62-109, 119-125 58 1 Journey Into Mystery Annual 1 1 1 Journey Into Mystery 2nd Series 8, 9, 12-18 9 1 Jungle Action 11-23 13 1 Ka-Zar, Lord Of The Hidden Jungle 5-18 14 1 Ka-Zar The Savage 1-9 9 1 Kid Colt Outlaw 91, 95-119, 124-129, 133-137 37 1 Kull The Conqueror / Destroyer 7-11, 18 6 1 Logans Run 1-7 7 1 Luke Cage / Power Man & Iron Fist 20-57, 65-66, 68-76 49 1 Machine Man 10-18 9 1 Man-Thing 8-22 15 1 Man-Thing 2nd Series 1, 6 2 1 Marvel Chillers 1-5 5 1 Marvel Classics Comics 5, 7, 9-36 30 1 Marvel Double Feature  10 1 1 Marvel Feature (2nd Series) Feat. Red Sonja 2-7 6 1 Marvel Premiere 22, 24, 26-34, 37-57, 59-61 35 1 Marvel Presents:  1-9 9 1 Marvel Spotlight 8-13, 17, 26-31 13 1 Marvel Spotlight (Volume 2) 1-7, 9-10 9 1 Marvel Super Action 30-37 8 1 Marvel Super Heroes 72, 80, 103, 104 4 1 Marvel Tales 104, 126-134 10 1 Marvel Tales Annual 2 1 1 Marvel Team-Up 24-37, 39-80, 82-99, 101, 111-112 77 1 Marvel Triple Action 28, 30, 32, 43-47 8 1 Marvel Two-in-One 11-71, 74-82 70 1 Marvel's Greatest Comics 68, 93 2 1 Master Of Kung Fu 36-96, 99-107 70 1 The Micronauts 28-36 9 1 Monsters on the Prowl 9-12, 15-16 6 1 Moon Knight 1-3, 6-14 12 1 Ms. Marvel 1-23 23 1 My Girl Pearl 7 1 1 Night Rider 5 1 1 Not Brand Echh 1 1 1 The Man Called Nova 1-16, 20-24 21 1 Omega The Unknown 1-6 6 1 Patsy And Hedy 70-71 2 1 Patsy Walker 89 1 1 Rawhide Kid 17, 24-42, 48-54, 56-60, 151 33 1 Red Sonja 1, 7-14 9 1 ROM Space Knight 1-3, 17-22, 24-25 11 1 Sgt. Fury And His Howling Commandos 1-10, 21-34, 37-47, 107-117, 128, 132, 152, 163-167 54 1 Sgt. Fury And His Howling Commandos Annual 1 1 1 She-Hulk, The Savage 9-10, 15-23 11 1 Shogun Warriors 4-20 17 1 The Silver Surfer 11-18 8 1 Skull The Slayer 2-8 7 1 Son Of Satan 1-4 4 1 (Peter Parker) The Spectacular Spider-Man 1, 53-61 10 1 Spider-Woman 5-34, 37, 38, 40, 41 34 1 Star Trek 13, 14, 16, 17 4 1 Star Wars 2-5 4 1 Strange Tales 75-77, 79-125, 136-150, 152-162, 175-187,  89 1 Sub-Mariner 12-69 58 1 Super Natural Thrillers 13, 15 2 1 Super-Villain Team-Up 3-9 7 1 Tales of Suspense 10, 13-58, 69-83, 85-95 73 1 Tales To Astonish Volume 1 10, 14-61, 71-84, 87-97 74 1 Tales To Astonish Volume 2 4-14 11 1 Tarzan 24-29 6 1 Thor 126-132, 135-146, 163-221, 226-282, 285-299, 301-303, 306-314 162 1 Tomb Of Darkness  10-20, 23 12 1 Tomb of Dracula 7-18, 23-28, 55-62 26 1 Two-Gun Kid 54-55, 60-72, 77-90 29 1 Vault Of Evil 23 1 1 Warlock 4-5, 9-15 9 1 Weird Wonder Tales 5-11 7 1 Werewolf By Night 6-14, 20-39, 41 30 1 Where Monsters Dwell 3-23, 25-27, 30, 32-37 31 1 Worlds Unknown 8 1 1 Wyatt Earp 29 1 1 Uncanny X-Men 1-7, 13-24, 27-37, 55-66, 73-86, 89-93, 96-101, 108-120, 123-136, 138-141, 144-152 107 1                   Confirmed UKPV Total:              3,023               Title Total: 119  
    Titles With No UK Price Variant Issues Produced / Confirmed     Title Title Count     A Date With Millie 1 Adventures On The Planet Of The Apes 1 Amazing Adventures Feat. X-Men 1 America's Best TV Comics 1 ARRGH! 1 Beware! 1 Captain Savage 1 The Cat 1 Chili 1 Combat Kelly & The Deadly Dozen 1 Crazy 1 The Deep 1 Dennis The Menace 1 Devil Dinosaur 1 Doc Savage 1 Doctor Strange (1st Series) 1 Dragonslayer 1 Dynomutt 1 Fantasy Masterpieces (2nd Series) 1 The Flintstones 1 For Your Eyes Only 1 Francis, Brother Of The Universe 1 Fun & Games Magazine 1 Giant Size.. Titles (See separate tab) 28 Godzilla 1 Groovy 1 Gunhawks 1 Gun-Slinger 1 Harvey 1 Homer The Happy Ghost 1 Iron Man & Sub-Mariner 1 Island of Dr. Moreau 1 Kathy 1 Ka-Zar (1st Series) 1 King Conan 1 Laff-A-Lympics 1 Life With Millie 1 Li'l Kids 1 Li'l Pals 1 Linda Carter, Student Nurse 1 Love Romances 1 Mad About Millie 1 Man From Atlantis 1 Marvel Adventure Featuring Daredevil 1 Marvel Collector's Item Classics 1 Marvel Feature  1 Marvel Spectacular 1 Mighty Marvel Western 1 Millie The Model 1 Modeling With Millie 1 My Love 1 My Own Romance 1 Nick Fury Agent Of Shield 1 Night Nurse 1 Our Love Story 1 The Outlaw Kid 1 Patsy Walker's Fashion Parade 1 Peter The Little Pest / Petey 1 Raiders Of The Lost Ark 1 Red Wolf 1 Ringo Kid 1 Scooby-Doo 1 Shanna The She-Devil 1 S.H.I.E.L.D, Nick Fury And His Agents Of  1 Special Marvel Edition 1 Spider-Man & His Amazing Friends 1 Spidey Super Stories 1 Spoof 1 Spotlight (Hannah-Barbera) 1 Tales of Asgard 1 Teen-Age Romance 1 Tower Of Shadows 1 TV Stars, Hanna-Barbera 1 Uncanny Tales (From The Grave) 1 War Is Hell 1 Western Gunfighters 1 Western Kid 1 Western Team-Up 1 What If? 1 Where Creatures Roam 1 Yogi Bear 1 Annual.. Titles (See separate tab) 32     Title Total:  140  

     


     

     
     
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    UK Price Variants
    Charlton Comics - UK Price Variants
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of the Charlton UK Price Variants (UKPVs) that I have found hiding between the cover dates of 1960 and December 1963 inclusive.
    UK Price Variants were printed in the USA at the same time as their cents priced counterparts. They are part of the same first printing run and are not reprints. If you would like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to my Charlton discussion thread in which we talk about them in more detail:
                
    The Headlines
    Charlton UK Price Variants have been found to exist between the cover / indicia dates of January 1961 and December 1963 inclusive. Three UKPV issues are indicia dated 1960 - Konga #1, The Best of Marmaduke and Gorgo #1 - which I can place inside the Jan 61~Dec 63 date run using arrival dates on US copies. Across the Jan 61~Dec 63 cover dates, a total of 834 cents priced comics exist spanning 76 titles. At the time of writing, 592 of them have a matching single printed price UKPV confirmed spanning 74 of the 76 overall titles. There is currently no evidence to suggest that any pence copies were missed, so an equivalent 834 pence copies are therefore theoretically possible. Some titles have number runs which are ‘split’ across different titles, e.g. High School Confidential Diary becomes Confidential Diary and then becomes Three Nurses. In these cases, each title is counted separately and not as one continuous title. The first known Charlton UKPVs are Gorgo # 1, The Best of Marmaduke First Edition and Konga #1, all priced at 6d, and all with indicias dated as 1960 only.  Four titles have been found to exist with indicia dates of January 1961 – Atomic Mouse #40, Sheriff of Tombstone #13, Sweetheart Diary #59 and Teen-Age Love #18 all priced at 6d. The remaining titles start from February/March 1961 and are priced at 6d (note all Charltons are bi-monthly titles). The last known UKPV copies are indicia / cover dated December 1963 and priced at 9d. From January 1964, all copies revert to single US pricing (until 1973 when dual cents/pence priced books begin to appear – see later note). Of the 76 titles in scope, 74 are confirmed as having one or more UK Price Variant. A full issue list follows these notes. At the time of writing, no UK Price Variants have been found for the remaining 2 eligible titles of (the eligible issue numbers are shown in brackets): Caroline Kennedy (one shot) Teen Secret Diary (#9-11) All known UK Price Variants are priced at either: 6d - cover dates June 1960 to March/April 1963 inclusive 9d - cover dates April/May 1963 to December 1963 inclusive All known UKPVs are standard sized 10c / 12c comics – no ‘oversize’ copies are known to exist (e.g. double size, giant sized or annuals). Unlike Marvel and DC books, which were all distributed by Thorpe & Porter (with the exception of five titles distributed by L Miller for one year), all Charlton UK Price Variants were distributed by L Miller & Co ltd and all copies carry the ‘LM’ publisher logo underneath their UK price. The only difference between a pence priced UKPV and its cents priced equivalent is the replacement UK cover price and the addition of a small ‘LM’ beneath it to indicate the distributor. No other elements differ for Charlton books and the indicias are the same in both editions. This is true of every copy I have found so far. With one or two specific exceptions where titles have copies in sequential months (although never more than two), all Charlton titles are bi-monthly during the UKPV production dates with one two month gap on or in the early months following January 1962. No Charlton comics in the UKPV production period have issue numbers on the covers with only a small handful of copies saying ‘first edition’ where applicable. In most other cases, only the price and month appear on the cover with the indicia showing the full publication year, month and issue number. Note – Please do not confuse any Charlton books dated April 1973 onwards with pence prices on them with genuine UK Price Variants. They are not, as every copy is the same when dual pricing occurs. The only true Charlton UK Price Variants are those documented above between the 1960 to December 1963 period.  Happy hunting, if you decide to build a set!
    By Stephen Cranch based on v10.2 of the ‘Charlton Comics – UK Price Variant Summary’
     
    Confirmed UK Price Variant Titles / Issues - Charlton Comics                 Indicia Title Eligible UKPV Number Range* Confirmed Issue Numbers       Total             Army War Heroes 1 1             1   Atomic Mouse 40-52 40-45, 48-50             9   Attack 1-2 1-2             2   Battlefield Action 34-50 34-38, 41-46, 48-49           13   Billy the Kid 26-43 27-42           16   Black Fury 28-45 29-35, 37-40, 43-45           14   Brides in Love 22-39 23-25, 27, 30-33, 37, 38           10   Caroline Kennedy 1 0             0   Cheyenne Kid 26-43 27-43           17   Confidential Diary 12-17 12-14, 17             4   Cynthia Doyle, Nurse in Love 66-73 66, 67, 69, 72               4   D-Day 1 1             1   Doctor Tom Brent, Young Intern 1-5 1, 4, 5             3   Drag-Strip Hotrodders 1 1             1   Emergency Doctor 1 1             1   Fightin' Air Force 25-41 25-36, 38-41           16   Fightin' Army 39-55 41-48, 50-52, 54-55            13   Fightin' Marines 39-56 41-50, 53-56           14   Fightin' Navy 96-113 97-108, 110, 112, 113           15   First Kiss 18-35 20, 29, 31, 34             4   Freddy 26-43 27-29, 31, 34-37, 40-43 12   Gorgo 1-16 1-15 15   Gorgo's Revenge 1 1 1   High School Confidential Diary 5-11 7-10 4   Hot Rods and Racing Cars 50-66 50-61, 63-65 15   Hunk 1-11 1, 2, 4, 7, 9-10 6   I Love You 32-49 33-35, 39-40, 42-43, 46, 48 9   Just Married 17-34 19-21, 23, 25, 28, 33-34 8   Kid Montana 27-43 27-33, 36-43 15   Konga 1-15 1-15 15   Konga's Revenge 2 2 1   Lash La Rue Western 82-84 82-84 3   Li'I Genius 31-47 31-36, 38-39, 41, 42, 44, 47 12   Love Diary 14-30 14-17, 22, 24-25, 27, 30 9   Marco Polo 1 1 1   Masked Raider 28-30 28-30 3   My Little Margie 34-50 34-39, 41, 44-47 11   My Secret Life 38-47 38-42 5   Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds 22-39 23-38 16   Nurse Betsy Crane 14-25 12-13, 15-18, 22-23, 25 9   Outlaws of the West 29-46 30-38, 40-44 14   Registered Nurse 1 1 1   Reptilicus 1-2 1 1   Reptisaurus 3-8 3-8 6   Reptisaurus Special Edition 1 1 1   Romantic Secrets 31-47 32-33, 35, 45 4   Romantic Story 53-69 53, 54, 56, 58, 59, 61, 68, 69 8   Secrets of Love and Marriage 23-25 24-25 2   Secrets of Young Brides 23-40 26-28, 32, 34, 35, 37-40 10   Sheriff of Tombstone 13-17 13-17 5   Six-Gun Heroes 61-77 61-77 17   Space Adventures 38-54 38-54 17   Space War 9-25 9-25 17   Strange Suspense Stories 51-68 52-67 16   Submarine Attack 26-42 26-34, 36-42 16   Sue and Sally Smith, Flying Nurses 48-54 48-50, 52-54 6   Sweetheart Diary 56-65 56-57, 60, 64  4   Sweethearts 58-74 59, 60, 63, 66, 68, 69, 71, 74 8   Teen Confessions 9-26 10-12, 20, 24-25 6   Teen Secret Diary 9-11 0 0   Teen-Age Confidential Confessions 4-21 6, 13, 15, 16, 21 5   Teenage Hotrodders 1-5 2-4 3   Teen-Age Love 18-35 18, 19, 21, 22, 25, 29, 30 7   Texas Rangers in Action 26-42 26-32, 34-35, 36, 38-40, 42 14   The Best of Marmaduke 1 1 1   The Green Planet 1 1 1   The Return of Gorgo 2 2 1   The Return of Konga 1 1 1   The Young Doctors 1-6 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 5   Three Nurses 18-21 21 1   Timmy the Timid Ghost 25-41 25-31, 35, 37, 38, 39, 41 12   U.S. Air Force 14-30 14-19, 23, 24, 26-30 13   Unusual Tales 26-42 26-42 17   War at Sea  40-42 40-42 3   War Heroes 1-6 1-5 5   Wyatt Earp, Frontier Marshal 34-51 35-50 16                                         Confirmed UKPV Total:          592             *Assuming only January 1961 - December 1963 cover dates exist         Excludes cents priced titles with UK price stamps that exist prior to / after the confirmed printed UKPV date window                        Here are just a few of my favourite covers 
             
     
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    Charlton 15 Cent Price Variants
    Charlton Comics - 15 Cent Price Variants
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of all the Charlton 15c Price Variants that I have found hiding between the cover dates of March and April 1962 inclusive.
    Charlton 15cv’s are extremely rare beasts and don’t seem to appear that often. If you'd like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the discussion thread in which we talk about them (it's the pence one):
                        
     
    Notes and Observations
    My research shows that Charlton 15 Cent Price Variants exist for the indicia months of March and April 1962 only. It actually makes sense for them to exist for just 2 months, March and April, as Charlton published their titles bi-monthly with half in one month and the other half the next, so covering two months would have ensured that all their current titles were included in the market test.
    We’re assuming it was a market test of course, in the absence of a more plausible explanation, as no concrete evidence to that effect has been found. If a test it was, the result must have been that 15 cents was considered too high, as the books went on to switch from 10c to only 12c.
    March 1962
    Charlton produced 20 titles in March 1962, all with a regular cover price of 10 cents. So far, nine of them have yielded 15c copies.
    April 1962
    Charlton produced 21 titles in April 1962 with a mix of thirteen 10c and eight 12c regular priced issues. Only two 15c variants have been found for this month and both are for 10c regular priced issues. This may indicate that 15c variants may only be found for the 10c regular priced copies and, if so, it would reduce the total possible number of variants across both applicable months to 33.

    Until more copies surface however, we’ll continue to assume that a maximum possible total of 41 variant issues may exist.
    Here is a list of all 41 eligible issues showing the eleven currently confirmed copies (I own ten of them):
    March 1962 (9 of 20 Confirmed)
    Fightin’ Air force #31 Fightin’ Army #45 High School Confidential Diary #11 Hot Rods and Racing Cars #56 – CONFIRMED  Hunk #4 Just Married #24 Konga #5 – CONFIRMED  Li’l Genius #37 – CONFIRMED  Love Diary #20 My Little Margie #40 - CONFIRMED Nurse Betsy Crane #15 Romantic Secrets #37 Romantic Story #59 Six Gun Heroes #67 – CONFIRMED  Space War #15 – CONFIRMED  Submarine Attack #32 Sweethearts #64 – CONFIRMED  Texas Rangers in Action #32 – CONFIRMED  Timmy the Timid Ghost #31 – CONFIRMED  U.S. Air Force #20 April 1962 (2 of 21 Confirmed)
    Atomic Mouse #47 (10c) Billy the Kid #33 (12c) Black Fury #35 (10c) Brides in Love #29 (12c) Cheyenne Kid #33 (10c) Fightin’ Marines #46 (10c) – CONFIRMED  Fightin’ Navy #103 (10c) First Kiss #25 (12c) Freddy #33 (10c) Gorgo #6 (12c) I Love You #39 (10c) – CONFIRMED  Mysteries of Unexplored Worlds #29 (10c) Outlaws of the West #36 (10c) Reptisaurus #4 (12c) Secrets of Young Brides #30 (10c) Strange Suspense Stories #58 (12c) Sweetheart Diary #63 (12c) Teen Confessions #16 (10c) Teen-Age Confidential Diary #11 (10c) Teen-Age Love #25 (12c) Wyatt Earp, Frontier Marshall #41 (10c) For all of the ten copies that I own, the price is the only cover difference between them and their 10c priced counterparts. Some, but not all, have curtailed indicias, perhaps to remove the internal pricing details.
    The books are ridiculously hard to find, so happy hunting, if you decide to build a set!
    29/09/20
    By Stephen Cranch based on v1.3 of the ‘Charlton Comics – 15 Cent Price Variant Summary’
     
    Charlton Comics - 15 Cent Price Variants
    11 of 41 potential copies confirmed


     
     

     

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    Hello 
    Thanks for visiting my Journal. Or John's, if you're into frippery.
    My name is Steve, I'm based in England, and for the last ten years or so I have been on a mission to confirm and record every first printing UK Price Variant that exists for the seven known American comic publishers that produced them. As well as that I have gathered data on other types of first printing price variants including Canadian and Australian books. Basically, all those little nuances that most people wouldn't give a flying fart at a rolling doughnut for.
    You will find posts in the journal which summarise the latest position on 15 separate research strands (the first seven are the UKPV summaries):
    Archie UK Price Variants Charlton UK Price Variants DC UK Price Variants Dell UK Price Variants Gold Key UK Price Variants King UK Price Variants Marvel UK Price Variants Charlton Canadian Price Variants Charlton 15c Price Variants Marvel Australian Price Variants Marvel L Miller UK Indicia Variants Marvel 1999/2000 US Newsstand Price Variants Marvel Thorpe & Porter Indicias Marvel US Price Font Variations Thorpe & Porter UK Distribution Price Stamp Numbering Each summary post has a hyperlink to discussion threads in which you will find a lot more detail if you are mad interested. 
    For the lazy, each square below will take you to the respective Journal entry:



     
    Meanwhile...
    How to Tell a UK Price Variant From Something Else That Looks a Bit Like It
    A question I am often asked, especially offline by those who can't bring themselves to post at CGC. Take a look at these four books (pictures always help I find):
       
                    1.  US Cents Copy                             2.  UK Price Variant                     3. US Cents Copy (UK Stamp)                    4.  UK Reprint Title
    The four books are:
    US Cents Copy  UK Price Variant US Cents Copy (UK Price Stamp) UK Reprint Title The first three were all printed in America, at the same time on the same presses - they are part of the first end to end printing run / state. The fourth book is a reprint, manufactured in the UK specifically for the UK market and long after the original US production event. 
    Of the four, only number two (get your jokes in now) is a UK Price Variant as it is the only copy from the original US production run with a printed UK price. A cents copy with a UK distributor stamp (our example book 3) is just that - a cents copy. It is not a UK Price Variant or a 'pence copy'. If you ever see a cents priced book with a UK distributor price stamp referred to as a 'UK Price Variant', or 'pence copy', know that that is wrong. Similarly, if you ever see a reprinted / repackaged title with a UK price on it, know that that also is not a UK Price Variant. A UK Price Variant can only exist if there is an original US publication for it to be the variant of, and only where both books were printed at the same time on the same presses.
    So, those four books again:
    US Cents Copy - the original book, produced by the US for the US market. The guvnor. A first printing. UK Price Variant - produced at the same time as the guvnor, as part of the same print state, but with a price plate change for the UK market (we like them too). A first printing. US Cents Copy (UK Price Stamp) - the guvnor again, just with a UK price stamp on it to show that the book was shipped to the UK to be distributed and sold there, usually because no UKPV was made.  A first printing. UK Reprint Title - nothing to do with the first three books. Not a first printing. Just a book the UK obtained the rights to to produce an after the event, repackaged title for the UK market. Such books should never be called the 'UK Edition' of a US original comic as they often are when they share a common cover or content. They are not - they are their own publication and nothing to do with the original US title that they reprint whether in whole or part. In the example shown, 'Spider-Man Comics Weekly' should never carry the designation of 'UK Edition'. It is a specific UK publication and should be referred to as such.  Hope that helped.
    While we're on the subject, here are two examples of my many attempts to explain why I favour the term "UK Price Variant" which you'll find scattered among CGC board threads:
    https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/24238-price-variant-club/?do=findComment&comment=11617626
    https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/485687-value-of-uk-price-variant-sa-grails/?do=findComment&comment=11674225
    Additionally...
    UK Price Variants - How Many of the Bloody Things Can There Be?
    As I said earlier, there are seven known US Publishers who produced UK Price Variants and here are the up to date issue totals for each as at the 11th of December 2022:
    Archie UK Price Variants - 26 confirmed issues  Charlton UK Price Variants - 598 confirmed issues DC UK Price Variants - 840 confirmed issues  Dell UK Price Variants - 223 confirmed issues Gold Key UK Price Variants - 122 confirmed issues King UK Price Variants - 24 confirmed issues Marvel UK Price Variants - 3,023 confirmed issues  That makes a total of 4,856 confirmed UK Price Variants if you're feeling ambitious. And patient. And rich.
    Have a read of my discussion threads and / or journal summary pages to see how many more UKPVs may be out there for each confirmed publisher.
    Thanks for looking and be seeing you... 

     
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    UK Price Variants
    Dell Comics - UK Price Variants
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of the Dell UK Price Variants (UKPVs) that I have found hiding between the dates of April 1960 and July 1961 inclusive.
    UK Price Variants were printed in the USA at the same time as their cents priced counterparts. They are part of the same first printing run and are not reprints. If you would like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the Archie discussion thread in which we talk about them in more detail:
            
    The Headlines
    Dell comics are unique among the seven known UKPV producing publishers in respect of their cover / indicia month format – often, Dell books are dated with multiple months rather than a single month as is the case with Archie, Charlton, DC, Gold Key, King and Marvel. For the purposes of my research, where titles are cover / indicia dated with multiple months (e.g. May-July) the first month is recorded as the cover date. Dell UK Price Variants have been found to exist between the cover dates of April 1960 to July 1961 inclusive. Across those cover dates, a total of 421 cents priced comics exist spanning the 40 titles for which one or more UKPVs has been confirmed. At the time of writing, 223 of them have a matching single printed price UKPV confirmed. Within the 40 titles which have at least one UKPV book confirmed, Dell Giant and Four Color represent one title each. At the time of writing, no UK Price Variants have been found for the following 15 titles which exist in the UKPV date range: Beep Beep, The Road Runner Beetle Bailey Carl Anderson's Henry Comic Album Daffy Duck  Edgar Rice Burroughs' Tarzan  Little Iodine Marge's Little Lulu  Marge's Tubby Nancy and Sluggo  New Terrytoons Peanuts Popeye  Tip Top Comics  Walter Lantz Woody Woodpecker The earliest Dell UKPV books I have found are cover dated April 1960, priced at 9d. 16 ongoing titles and a further 3 Four Color issues currently share this honour (18 books in total). Three books are currently tied as being the final dated UKPV books, dated July 1961. They are Have Gun Will Travel #10, Wagon Train #10 and the Four Color #1205 (titled David and Goliath). Four Color #1236, titled King of Kings, is indicia dated 1961 making it difficult to place. It is believed to have hit the newsstands in September 1961. 69 of a possible 150 Four Colors have been found (150 being based on issues #1087 to #1236). Most of the current UKPV gaps are expected to be by design, especially towards the later dated issues. Peter Gun (#1087) is the first known copy indicia dated April-June 1960. The King of Kings (#1236) – the first UKPV after a 30 numerical issue break – is indicia dated 1961 and is believed to be the last sequential Four Color UKPV copy. 10 of a possible 17 Dell Giants have been found. Bugs Bunny Beach Party (#32) is the first known copy indicia dated August 1960 and The Flintstones Bedrock Bedlam (#48) indicia dated 1961 is currently the last known UKPV copy. All 10 copies are priced at 2/-. I have found only three UK cover prices on Dell books. The ‘regular’ size titles change from 9d to 1/- during the cover months of February and March 1961. The Dell Giant oversize issues are all priced at 2/-.  The three known cover prices are: 9d (nine pre-decimal old pence) 1/- (one shilling)   2/- (two shillings) for the Dell Giant books The majority of UKPVs are 'dual priced', i.e. the UK versions have both US and UK prices on them. The US versions have, of course, only the US price (sometimes printed twice!). The only difference between a pence priced UKPV and its cents priced equivalent is the cover price. Unlike, say, Marvel UKPVs, no other elements differ for Dell books and the indicias are the same in both editions. This is true of every copy I have found so far. The Dell UKPVs were distributed in the UK by World Distributors limited - see here for confirmation My research shows that a potential maximum of 421 UKPV copies may exist based on the current known appearance dates. However, a number of the gaps in which no pence books have been found are clearly there by design, making the likely eventual UKPV total much lower. Happy hunting, if you decide to build a set!
    By Stephen Cranch based on v4.1 of the ‘Dell Comics – UK Price Variant Summary’
     
    Confirmed UK Price Variant Titles / Issues               Title Possible UKPV Number Range* Confirmed UKPV Numbers              Total         Adventures of Mighty Mouse, The 146-151 146, 147, 148 3 Andy Panda (Walter Lantz) 50-54 50-51 2 Bat Masterson 3-7 3-7 5 Bugs Bunny 72-79 72-75 4 Cheyenne 15-22 15-18 4 Colt .45 5-9 5-9 5 Dell Giant 32-48 32, 33, 35,  38-40, 42, 43, 46, 48 10 Four Color 1087-1236 See separate tab 69 Gunsmoke 20-27 20-27 8 Have Gun Will Travel 5-10 5-10 6 Hi-Yo Silver, The Lone Ranger's Famous Horse 34-36 35-36 2 Huckleberry Hound 5-12 5, 6, 8, 11 4 Hugh O'Brian, Famous Marshal Wyatt Earp 11-13 11-13 3 I Love Lucy 27-32 27-29 3 Lassie 49-54 49-53 5 Lawman 4-8 4-7 4 Lone Ranger, The 133-140 133-136, 139 5 Looney Tunes 222-237 222-228 7 Maverick 10-16 10-14 5 M.G.M.'s Spike and Tyke  22-24 22-23 2 Mickey Mouse 71-78 74, 76 2 Porky Pig 70-77 70-72 3 Quick Draw McGraw  2-7 2-4 3 Rifleman, The 3-8 3-8 6 Rin Tin Tin and Rusty 34-38 34-38 5 Roy Rogers and Trigger 137-144 137-139, 141-143 6 Ruff and Reddy 5-10 5-7 3 Sea Hunt 5-10 5-7 3 Tom and Jerry Comics 189-204 189-195 7 Turok Son of Stone 20-24 20-24 5 Tweety and Sylvester 29-33 29-30 2 Wagon Train 5-10 5-6, 8, 10 4 Walt Disney Presents 4-6 5 1 Walt Disney's Chip 'n' Dale 22-26 23 1 Walt Disney's Comics and Stories 235-250 239-241, 244-245 5 Walt Disney's Donald Duck 71-78 73, 75 2 Walt Disney's Scamp 14-16 15 1 Walt Disney's Uncle Scrooge 30-34 31, 33 2 Walt Disney's Zorro 10-14 11, 13-14 3 Walter Lantz New Funnies  277-284 277-279 3         Actual Issues in UKPV Cover Date Range: 421 Confirmed UKPV Total         223         *Assuming only April 1960 to July 1961 cover dates exist              
     


     
    Here are three examples - one for each known cover price 
     
      
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    UK Price Variants
    King Comics - UK Price Variants
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of the King Comics UK Price Variants (UKPVs) that I have found hiding between the dates of August 1967 and November 1967 inclusive.
    UK Price Variants were printed in the USA at the same time as their cents priced counterparts. They are part of the same first printing run and are not reprints. If you would like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the Archie discussion thread in which we talk about them in more detail:
              
    The Headlines
    King Comics UK Price Variants have been found to exist between the indicia dates of August 1967 to November 1967 inclusive (King Comics for this period have no cover months). Across those indicia dates, a total of 24 cents priced comics exist spanning 6 titles. All 24 of them have a matching single printed price UKPV confirmed. All 24 UK Price Variants are priced at 10d - on some issues, the US 12c price is still visible behind the UK price, indicating that they were likely overprinted at the end of the US run. The title Jungle Jim commences with issue #5, is cover dated December 1967, and therefore misses the UKPV date range by one month. Its cover date of December 1967 also coincides with the move from 12c to 15c for US priced editions and may have a bearing on why the pence copies ceased. All UKPV copies are standard sized issues and no ‘oversize’ copies exist e.g. double size, giant sized or annuals. The only difference between a pence priced UKPV and its cents priced equivalent is the cover price. Unlike, say, Marvel UKPVs, no other elements differ for King Comics books and the indicias are the same in both editions. This is true of every copy I have found so far. It is not currently known who was responsible for distributing King Comics Comics in the UK. I have not personally seen any copies which betray branded UK distributor marks around the UKPV period, or any 'smoking gun' evidence to indicate who it may have been. Some of the issues for the lesser known titles are extremely scarce, so happy hunting if you decide to build a set!
    By Stephen Cranch based on v1.8 of the ‘King Comics – UK Price Variant Summary’

     

     

     
    Here are six cover examples - one from each known title 
      
      
           
     
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    Canadian Price Variants
    Charlton Canadian Price Variants
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of all the Charlton Canadian Price Variants (CPVs) that I have captured hiding between the cover dates of September 1983 and July 1984 inclusive.
    If you'd like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the discussion thread in which we talk about them:
               
     
    The Headlines
    My research shows that Charlton Canadian Price Variants exist for the cover months of September 1983 through to July 1984 inclusive. Others have attempted to document what copies exist down the years but I believe I am the first to gain agreement from ‘the usual suspects’ on a firm set of dates (previously, many researchers have suggested the books date back as far as February 1983 but no such books have ever materialised).
    Charlton published twelve titles between my revised CPV cover date range (September 1983 to July 1984 inclusive) and each has at least one CPV confirmed. The 12 titles are:
    Attack Battlefield Action Beyond the Grave Fightin' Army Fightin' Marines Fightin' Navy Ghost Manor Ghostly Tales Gunfighters Haunted Scary Tales War Here are the current confirmed issue numbers:
     

    From August/September 1984 (all titles are bi-monthly and staggered), 8 of the still running 11 title's issues have dual US/Canadian prices indicating the end of the CPV experiment (the other 3 become dual from October). July 1984 cover dates are therefore confirmed to be the final CPVs.
    Every example confirmed so far is priced at 75c (versus the US 60c priced copies) - I have found no other prices and no annuals, oversize issues or 'specials'.
    If I am right about the dates, there will be a maximum possible 64 CPVs across the 12 titles and the most any one title will have is 6 CPV issues. However, my research indicates that no one title will have more than 5 CPVs as, for the four titles that could have six issues, all of their missing September 1983 cover dated issues were all coincidentally on sale prior to the 9th of June 1983 according to Mike's Comic Newsstand. Fightin' Marines #170, Ghost Manor #70, Gunfighters #80 and Haunted #69 are therefore not expected to exist as they were all 'on sale' prior to the 9th of June 1983, the likely starting point for the CPV experiment.
    The maximum number of CPV issues is therefore likely to settle on 60, five for each title, which makes numerical sense at least. Please see the discussion thread for more on this (link above).
    At the time of writing, all 60 of the likely theoretical maximum of 60 issues have been confirmed (24/07/22 Update - Haunted #70, the final book requiring confirmation was provided by CGC board member @bellrules)
    The only difference I have found between a 75c CPV and its US 60 cent equivalent is the cover price. No other elements differ on these books and the indicias are the same in both editions. This is true of every copy I have found so far. A number of CPVs appear to have overprinted prices where the original 60c price can still be seen behind the updated 75c price. I’m not a printing expert, but this could indicate that the CPVs were printed at the end of the run.
    Some of the confirmed books are fairly hard to find, so happy hunting if you decide to build a set yourself! Only time will tell if the remaining books exist but collectors have been looking for some time so....
    By Stephen Cranch based on v2.1 of the ‘Charlton Comics – Canadian Price Variant Summary’ 
     
    Here is an example from my collection for each of the 12 titles:
      
     
      
         
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    Marvel UKPVs - Thorpe & Porter Indicias (June 1960 ~ November 1964)
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of the Thorpe & Porter Indicia Types that I have found hiding in Marvels between the dates of June 1960 and November 1964 inclusive. If you'd like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the discussion threads in which we talk about them (it's the Marvel Pence Variants thread):
                    
     
    Notes and Observations
    Most people with a passing interest in pence copies will know that the early 1960's Marvels had regional UK indicias in them noting that the book in question had been "Printed exclusively for Thorpe & Porter Ltd", a UK based publisher responsible for the distributing the majority of US comics in the UK. The common assumption is that all pence books had them. During my research into pence copies and US price font variations I began to collect examples of the various different types of Thorpe & Porter indicia wording to see if they had any bearing on, or link to, the 'missing' pence copies. As well as finding that link, I discovered five different types of Thorpe & Porter indicia, some telling phases and even a period with Thorpe & Porter indicias in cents priced copies! 
    Thorpe & Porter indicias first appear in issues cover dated June 1960 and make their last appearance in issues cover dated November 1964. Here are the five known types, with the cover date periods of the books you can expect to find them in:
     
    Type 1 - Found in Marvel Comics US cover dated June 1960 to August 1960
    The Type 1 Thorpe & Porter Ltd indicia format is characterised by a large lower-case distribution text in place of the regular US indicia details:

    (There are no UK regional Thorpe & Porter indicias found in any US distributed 10c priced issues for this time period)
     
    Type 2 - Found in Marvel Comics US cover dated September & October 1960
    The Type 2 Thorpe & Porter Ltd indicia format is characterised by a large upper-case distribution text set below the regular US indicia details:

    (There are no UK regional Thorpe & Porter indicias found in any US distributed 10c priced issues for this time period)
     
    Type 3 - Found in Marvel Comics US cover dated November 1960 and December 1960
    The Type 3 Thorpe & Porter Ltd indicia format is characterised by a large lower-case distribution text set below the regular US indicia details:

    (There are no UK regional Thorpe & Porter indicias found in any US distributed 10c priced issues for this time period)
     
    Type 4 - Found in Marvel Comics US cover dated January 1961 to April 1961
    The Type 4 Thorpe & Porter Ltd indicia format is characterised by a small upper-case distribution text set immediately following the regular US indicia details:

    *** UK regional Thorpe & Porter indicias can be found in US distributed 10c cover priced issues cover dated January to April for issues which have corresponding pence copies ***
     
    Type 5 - Found in Marvel Comics US cover dated September 1961 to November 1964
    The Type 5 Thorpe & Porter Ltd indicia format is characterised by a small upper-case distribution text set below the regular US indicia details:

    (There are no UK regional Thorpe & Porter indicias found in any US distributed 10c priced issues for this time period)
     
    Thorpe & Porter indicias do not appear in all UK Price Variant books in the May 1960 to November 1964 period - there are some exceptions:
    The expected Type 1 T&P indicia does not appear in the first pence priced Marvel book, Journey into Mystery #58, dated May 1960. This book has the same standard indicia as its US counterpart. This is odd, given that the only other pence priced May 1960 book - Gunsmoke Western #58 - has a regional 'L Miller & Co' indicia. So Len Miller got a regional indicia printed for his pence book, but Thorpe & Porter did not, starting instead with their June 1960 issues. Likely an oversight, wouldn't you say? There are no regional T&P indicias in pence or cents copies cover dated May 1961 to August 1961 inclusive There are no regional T&P indicias in any book - pence or cents - cover dated December 1964 onwards. Due to a gap in the production of pence copies, the last know T&P indicia in a pence copy is dated November 1964. Pence copies recommenced from August 1965, priced at 10d and with standard US indicias in all copies Other notable observations:
    The two September 1960 UKPVs, Journey into Mystery #60 and Strange Takes #77, have their own unique indicia with the word ‘Thorpe’ misspelled as ‘Thorp’ Journey into Mystery #63 bucks the overall trend for its December 1960 cover date period by having a Type 4 indicia in both pence and cents copies when it's UKPV cousins for the month all have Type 3 (an exception likely explained by JIM #63 being printed late in the monthly printing cycle and therefore falling into the next category type - the cut off doesn't have to go by cover month) All Type 4 books have regional T&P indicias in both pence and cents copies but only where a UKPV copy exists - the other US distributed 10c copies which do not have a corresponding UKPV have standard US indicias. The only exception is Journey into Mystery #67 which has a standard US indicia in both copies (again, likely due to being printed last in that months cycle). Early indications are that the T&P indicia exists in both US versions where the cents copy has a price font variation (JIM #65 confirmed) Every Type 1-4 exception is a JIM! Finally, here are six summary tables which show all the books produced by Marvel in the T&P indicia period - both cents and pence - and what I can confirm to be in them (click on each page to zoom in):
     






     
    So, not everyone's cup of tea I'm guessing but I don't think you'll find this information anywhere else online. It's an interesting period in comic production history and, if nothing else, is helpful in determining which pence books may / may not exist (see discussion thread!) and also the potential order of their printing.
    For those that noted the references to L Miller, those indicias details can be found here
    And if the early distribution of US comics to the UK interests you in general, you might enjoy my thread here:
        
     
    Have fun 
    30/06/21
    By Stephen Cranch based on v2.3 of the 'Marvel UK Price Variants -Thorpe & Porter (T&P) Indicia Summary'
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    Thorpe & Porter
    Thorpe & Porter UK Distribution Price Stamp Numbering
    Hello Reader 
    Those of you who have been foolish enough to follow my pence threads over the years will know that I have often speculated as to why the UK distribution price stamps used by Thorpe & Porter in the early 1960's were numbered 1-9 like so:
     
    I've lost track of how many experts and collectors I have asked about it down the years and everyone was stumped. I undertook an exercise myself a year or so ago, captured I think in my DC UKPV thread, to see if I could detect any patterns (as I often do). It was unsuccessful because I was looking for the wrong thing, in the wrong way. Recently,  two contributors to a thread I started about the early distribution of US comics to the UK finally cracked the code - @01TheDude first suggested it and then @Albert Tatlock, helped in no small measure I would assume by his extensive DC collection, confirmed what he and likely a few other collectors of the day had worked out. You can read all about it here, in my UK Distribution Review thread:
           
    Anyway, in short, it turns out that the numbers correlate with sequential - probably monthly - shipment arrival dates from the US to the UK. We know that the import ban on comics was lifted around mid-1959, so it is no surprise to see that our stamped US books started to arrive in the UK at the end of 1959 / beginning of 1960.
    Using the many images that I had already captured in relation to my distribution review, examples from the thread contributors, and a subsequent trawl of eBay and other online sources, I plotted all the DC comics I could find in line with the 1-9 stamp numbers and the pattern was indeed confirmed:
    Click to enlarge by the way




        
    The tables show us that the books arrive approximately monthly - as you would expect for a monthly comic medium - and that each shipment comprises a mix of issue sequential books not usually separated by more than three months by cover date (which makes sense when you consider the end to end process involved from the point that issues were returned as unsold in the US to their arrival in the UK).
    I'm not going to go into too much more detail here as I suspect that the vast majority of readers won't find this interesting. The small group that do will likely want to read the whole thread.
    So, in a final nutshell, this is what we believe was going on:
    With the import ban lifted, Thorpe & Porter made an arrangement with DC to have unsold books in the US sent to the UK US sellers removed unsold DC comics, perhaps once the replacement next issue arrived, and sent them to a central returns point The central point collated the US country-wide returns and shipped them to the UK, likely monthly Thorpe & Porter received them, stamped them (using the 1-9 stamps on a rolling cycle) and distributed them to the UK The evidence points to the stamp number 8 in the first cycle as being the likely 'first ever shipment' and it probably arrived in the UK for the books to go on sale around January 1960.
     
    As ever there are gaps and quirks all over the place - there always are in this wonderful period of comic history - but you'd have to be blind to not see the pattern behind the outliers. The discussion thread covers Marvel and the other publishers for whom we have T&P stamped examples in the UK.  
    So, with an element or two left to be finessed, notably a definitive calendar date for the start month, the mystery of the Thorpe & Porter price stamp numbering has, to my mind, finally been solved.
    Well done to the Dude and Tatlock for making the breakthrough 
    Cheers,
    Steve 
    P.S. I put these 1-9 grids together, for the numbered stamps. A few more to do, but I'll get there....

     
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    Marvel 'L Miller & Co' UK Distribution Variants (May 1960 ~ September 1961)
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of the L Miller & Co UK Distribution Variants that I have discovered hiding in first printing Marvel Comics produced between the dates of May 1960 and September 1961. If you'd like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the discussion thread in which we talk about them:
                     
                                   
    Notes and Observations
    Most knowledgeable UK comic collectors know that ‘L Miller & Son Ltd’ were a Hackney based publisher who specialised in the reprinting of US original comic material in repackaged publications for the UK market during the 1950s and 60s. What those collectors don’t tend to know is that, alongside their core reprint activities, Miller also requested original first printing comics from Marvel with unique UK cover prices and/or indicias for a 17 month period from May 1960.  
    You will find a separate journal entry for the Charlton UK Price Variants which Miller distributed under my main journal page if you’d like to read about them. This entry here covers the L Miller variants for Marvel Comics.
    Miller variants exist for the following five Marvel titles:
    Amazing Adventures Gunsmoke Western Rawhide Kid Two-Gun Kid Wyatt Earp You'll note that four of those titles are westerns. Marvel were actually producing five western titles at the time but the fifth title - Kid Colt Outlaw - was picked up by Thorpe & Porter and I can confirm that no Miller copies exist for that title.
    Miller variants are identified by the presence of either a UK 9d cover price with a regional UK indicia, or a US 10c cover price with a regional UK indicia.  
    Here are two examples of the Miller indicias - one for a 9d pence book and one for a cents priced book:


    To further illustrate, for Gunsmoke Western #61, two first printing versions exist.
    The first is the standard US version below. It has a ten cent cover price and standard US indicia page:

    The second version is the Miller indicia version.
    It also has a ten cent cover price but the indicia has an additional two lines of printed data at the foot of the indicia page to show that it was 'Exclusively printed for UK distribution':

    So two versions exist - one destined for the US and one for the UK. Both printed at the same time by the same printers. 
    Below is a summary chart which I have put together for the five confirmed titles which shows which issues exist, colour coded to their cover prices:

    From the chart you can see that:
    All 26 eligible issues are confirmed  All May 1960 to August 1960 cover dated copies are priced at 9d All September 1960 to August 1961 cover dated copies are priced at 10c September 1961 is a unique month in as much as it has one further 10c L Miller copy for the title Amazing Adventures whilst the Miller title of Gunsmoke Western changes to Thorpe & Porter distribution and is priced at 9d Issue #55 of the Two-Gun Kid, whilst clearly a Miller book, has no regional indicia but copies exist with the '6d LM' cover stamp on them From October 1961 Miller's involvement ends and all Marvel titles with 9d cover prices are then distributed by Thorpe & Porter The only printed differences between a Miller copy and its US equivalent are the cover prices and / or the presence of the UK regional indicia. No other elements differ, although you may be able to spot a cents priced Miller by the presence of a '6d LM' cover stamp which appears on many of the copies that I have seen / own:

    Occasionally, a hand applied 'PRINTED IN U.S.A.' stamp can be seen on the splash pages of early Miller copies:

    These books have been hiding under the radar for 60 years now and it is quite remarkable that they have not been identified until now. 
    Happy hunting, if you decide to build a set!
    28/09/20
    By Stephen Cranch based on v2.7 Final of the ‘Marvel 'L Miller & Co' UK Distribution Variant Summary (May 1960 ~ September 1961)’
     
     
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    Marvel US Price Font Variations (June 1960 ~ February 1961)
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of the Marvel Price Font Variations that I have discovered hiding between the dates of June 1960 and February 1961. If you'd like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the discussion thread in which we talk about them:
                         
     
    Notes and Observations
    During the long years spent trawling eBay and other online sites looking for pence copies I developed a skill for spotting things that 'didn't look right'. I found a lot of printing errors that way and other such oddities. So when I got around to looking for the pence copies of the early Marvels I would know that a book - for example - with a white 10c on a coloured background would be the cents copy (duh) but a copy with a white box within which a price sat would be the pence copy. Here's what I mean:
    The cents copy of Strange Tales #75 has a white 10c price set within the blue cover background:
     
    The pence copy has a white box with the 9d pence price set inside it:

    So you can see how you'd be able to spot the pence copy on books like these quite easily as you whizzed down the listings without having to open every one (which you may need to if your eyes are like mine). One day about ten years ago I saw the white box scenario on a book where I knew the cents copy had a white 10c set in the background colour. I opened the listing expecting to see a pence copy. I found a cents copy.
    And that is how I personally 'discovered' Marvel US Price Font Variations!
    A bit of subsequent research showed that others had noticed them too of course but, as is often the case, no one seemed to have researched them fully to establish exactly what existed and why.
    I have spent the last 3 years researching them in detail having placed my ten year old finds in a folder marked 'look into these one day'. My research - which I now believe to be complete - has found 14 examples existing across the 91 eligible issues / 20 eligible titles in production from June 1960 to February 1961 inclusive. The 14 are:
    Battle #70 Journey into Mystery #60 Journey into Mystery #64 Journey into Mystery #65 Kid Colt Outlaw #91 Rawhide Kid #17 Strange Tales #75 Strange Tales #76 Strange Tales #77 Strange Tales #81 Tales to Astonish #14 Tales to Astonish #16 Two-Gun Kid #54 Two-Gun Kid #55 Here they are in cover date, then title alphabetical order, with pictures:














     
    As ever, I have a spreadsheet which plots all the 20 titles Marvel were producing during the font variation window. It shows the types of fonts available for all 91 books - here's an extract to illustrate:

    To date, no one has provided a verifiable reason as to why the variations exist. My own belief is that they exist because the pence variants exist. You can read my theories in the discussion thread (link above). I've invited CGC to take up the challenge and, recently, Matt Nelson advised me that they would try to find out what they can but would stop short of noting the variations on their labels until more is known:
    "Also, we're all still trying to unravel the mystery of those varied 10 cent books from 1960-1961, so for the case of US Marvel editions that display two different price fonts (10 cents), we will not differentiate between them for now."
    So, 14 variations in this time frame to find. Happy hunting, if you decide to build a set!
     
    30/06/20
    By Stephen Cranch based on v1.6 of the 'Marvel US Price Font Variations Summary'
     
    P.S. I've excluded the three January 1962 dated 'Black Circle' variants (Journey into Mystery #76, Love Romances #97 and Gunsmoke Western #68) from the above summary for now as they sit well outside the date window and seem to be of a different type - more of a 'corrected error' than a variation scenario:
     
     

     
     
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    UK Price Variants
    Gold Key Comics - UK Price Variants
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of the Gold Key UK Price Variants (UKPVs) that I have found hiding between the dates of March 1973 and November 1975 inclusive.
    UK Price Variants were printed in the USA at the same time as their cents priced counterparts. They are part of the same first printing run and are not reprints. If you would like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the Archie discussion thread in which we talk about them in more detail:
                
    The Headlines
    Gold Key UK Price Variants have been found to exist between the cover dates of March 1973 to November 1975 inclusive. The total number of cents priced comic titles existing across those dates are too numerous to list – the salient point is that only 8 titles have pence copies. At the time of writing, 122 single printed price UKPVs are confirmed across those 8 titles. The first known Gold Key UKPV copies are Pink Panther #11 and Tweety and Sylvester #69 cover / indicia dated March 1973 and priced at 6p. The last known UKPV copies are Pink Panther #30, Star Trek #35 and Tweety & Sylvester #51, all cover / indicia dated November 1975 and priced at 8p. Of the scores of titles in scope, only the following 8 are confirmed as having one or more UK Price Variant (the eligible issue numbers are shown in brackets): Beep Beep the Road Runner (#35-54) Boris Karloff Tales of Mystery (#46-64) Pink Panther (#11-30) Ripley’s Believe it or Not! (#39-58) Star Trek (#18-35) Tom and Jerry (#270-300) Tweety and Sylvester (#29-51) Yosemite Sam (#13-32) All UKPVs are priced at either: 6p - cover dates March 1973 to June 1974 inclusive 7p - cover dates July 1974 to July 1975 inclusive 8p - cover dates August 1975 to November 1975 inclusive All known UKPVs are standard sized issues and no ‘oversize’ copies are known to exist e.g. double size, giant sized or annuals. As a rule, only difference between a pence priced Gold Key UKPV and its cents priced equivalent is the cover price - the indicias and all other aspects are the same in both editions. The only exception to this is for the following UKPV issues which are missing the ‘16 Page Fun Catalogs’ that can be found in their US cents priced equivalent issues. The UKPV covers are also missing the ‘Fun Catalog’ cover wording and have masthead banners noting the comic title instead where applicable (or a missing bottom corner cover blurb in the case of Boris Karloff #58). The eight affected UKPV issues are: Beep Beep the Road Runner #40 & 47 Boris Karloff Tales of Mystery #51 & 58 Ripley’s Believe it or Not! #44 & 51 Yosemite Sam #18 & 25 For the title Tom and Jerry, only seven consecutive UKPV issues have been found (#270 to 276) despite the title having eligible issues up to and including issue #300. It is possible that pence copies ceased with issue #276, dated November 1973, so as not to clash with an existing UK produced comic titled ‘Tom and Jerry Weekly’ (first issue dated October 1973). The total, continuing absence of UKPV issues between #277 and #300 seems to support this theory. Given the popularity of the TV show and films, the title Star Trek has been researched at length by various collectors over the years and the list of missing UKPV issues is widely accepted as being accurate. Consequently, UKPV copies are not expected to exist for issues #21, 24, 27, 30, 32 and 34. This shows that the distributor was clearly happy to miss issues and it therefore follows that the missing issues for the other seven titles may be permanent / by design. Six of the 8 titles have ‘one on, one off’ gaps towards the end of their UKPV runs where pence issues are absent over an eight consecutive month period. For example, Beep Beep the Road Runner has the following pattern: Apr - #49 – 7p May – no issue this month Jun - #50 – 7p Jul - #51 – no pence copy found Aug - #52 – 8p Sep – #53 – no pence copy found Oct – #54 – 8p Nov – no issue this month The ‘on / off’ pattern appears to exist by design with only the Star Trek title breaking the pattern (Tom & Jerry has no UKPV issues in the date range so is out of scope). See the illustration below showing each title’s end of UKPV run gaps, and also the detailed explanation in the discussion thread (here):
    I believe Williams Publishing were responsible for distributing Gold Key Comics in the UK. Whilst there is no direct printed evidence to support this on / in the comics themselves, a number of UK fanzines of the time state that to be the case and they are the logical candidate based on their publishing history. A number of copies exist just prior to the printed UKPV dates which have ‘official’ looking 6p price stickers on them, which mirror the eventual printed price font, indicating that Williams may have started this way prior to requesting printed priced copies.
    Happy hunting, if you decide to build a set!
    18/02/21
    By Stephen Cranch based on v2.9 of the ‘Gold Key Comics – UK Price Variant Summary’
     

     
     
     
    Here are eight cover examples - one from each known title 
     
      
      
     
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    UK Price Variants
    Archie Comics - UK Price Variants
    Hello Reader 
    Here is a summary of the Archie UK Price Variants (UKPVs) that I have found hiding between the cover dates of March 1960 to August 1960.
    UK Price Variants were printed in the USA at the same time as their cents priced counterparts. They are part of the same first printing run and are not reprints. If you would like to know more about them, please click the picture below and you'll be magically transported to the Archie discussion thread in which we talk about them in more detail:
             
    The Headlines
    Archie UK Price Variants have been found to exist between the cover dates of March 1960 to August 1960 inclusive. Across those cover dates, a total of 54 cents priced comics exist spanning 16 titles. At the time of writing, 26 of them have a matching single printed price UKPV confirmed spanning 11 of the 16 overall titles The first known Archie UKPV is, appropriately enough, Archie #108 priced at 9d. This book is not only the only known March 1960 cover dated Archie UKPV, but the earliest known UK Price Variant of any of the seven known pence producing US publishers (Archie, Charlton, DC, Dell, Gold Key, King, Marvel). It may be the only March dated Archie UKPV because it was the last to be printed according to the 'on-sale' / Library of Congress dates that can be found on Mike's Comic Newsstand website. Here are the March applicable issues, plotted by production date:
    You can see how the instruction to produce a 9d book might have hit the printers some time after January the 18th. If this theory is correct, we may never see a UKPV for the other March dated books.  The last known UKPV copies are Archie’s Pal Jughead #63 and Laugh #113, both cover dated August 1960 and also priced at 9d. I plotted the titles for the final months using their 'on sale' dates, and found no meaningful pattern. Consequently, the others August cover dated books may exist.  Of the 16 titles in scope, the following 11 titles have one or more UK Price Variant confirmed:
    At the time of writing, no UK Price Variants have been found for the remaining 5 eligible titles:
    I haven't found any UKPVs for giant 25c issues after four years of looking, so it's reasonable to assume that they were excluded from the UKPV experiment. The two remaining 10c titles, Jughead's Fantasy and Life With Archie, could have a UKPV hiding out there somewhere.
    All 26 issues have a printed cover price of 9d (nine pre-decimal English pence) in place of their US counterpart's 10c price:  
    Only one pence copy may turn out to exist for the three ‘adventure’ titles of Adventures of Pipsqueak, Adventures of Super Duck and Adventures of The Fly, each of which currently have only one UKPV each confirmed. Adventures of The Fly #6 has surfaced multiple times as a pence priced copy but no pence copies have ever been seen to date for issues #5 and 7. It is not currently known who was responsible for distributing Archie Comics in the UK and copies have been found to exist with both ‘L Miller & Co’ and ‘Thorpe & Porter’ price stamps in evidence. My research here indicates that Thorpe & Porter were the more likely of the two Happy hunting, if you decide to try and build a set! 
    By Stephen Cranch based on v2.0 of the ‘Archie Comics – UK Price Variant Summary’ 
     
    Here are eleven 9d cover examples - one from each known title