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  1. They've never included that in any of their descriptions. Nor does any other auction house or dealer that I'm aware of. The question of mentioning grading history in an auction description is rather intriguing. Before the question was posed herein, I would have sworn that I have seen the language used in a Heritage description or two before – or at least a mention that the item sold previously. So, to satisfy my curiosity and sanity of mind, I had to take a look under the archive's hood. Here's what I found: ...we previously sold this copy uncertified, also calling it NM-1 ...we previously sold it uncertified in 20062 ...we can say for certain that this copy was previously certified a 7.5 by CGC3 Then my research stopped after finding this (manufactured) Church copy upgrade, the description of which ties directly to a previously certified version sold by Heritage: Super Comics #10 Mile High pedigree (Dell, 1939) CGC NM+ 9.6 White pages. When we previously sold this in a 9.0 holder (emphasis added) we tut-tutted in print about the grade being too low. Deservedly a 9.6, this is a glorious copy of an early book (January 1939 cover date). Tracy cover. Overstreet 2011 NM- 9.2 value = $700. CGC census 8/11: 1 in 9.6, none higher. Super Comics #10 Mile High pedigree (Dell, 1939) CGC VF/NM 9.0 White pages Super Comics #10 Mile High pedigree (Dell, 1939) CGC NM+ 9.6 White pages _______________ 1 Women Outlaws #8 Mile High pedigree (Fox Features Syndicate, 1949) CGC NM- 9.2 White pages 2 Feature Comics #28 Larson pedigree (Quality, 1940) CGC VF/NM 9.0 White pages 3 Mystic Comics #1 Nova Scotia pedigree (Timely, 1940) CGC FN+ 6.5 Off-white to white pages
  2. The basic principle of comparative image analysis is to evaluate how the collectible may have changed over time through examination, detection, localization, and quantification of different kinds of physical traits and features using before and after digital imagery. The aim is to understand the differences and similarities in the imaged item and arrive at reasonable, objective conclusions as to the previous state vs the current state. The practice is used throughout the collectibles industry when conducting provenance research, certification history, and buying and selling due diligence with countless positive exemplars presented on these and other hobby forums and print media down through the years. While I would tend to agree that color values of an image may render somewhat differently in various makes and models of monitors and display screens depending on variables such as hardware and software configurations and settings, that should not limit or prohibit the practice of side-by-side comparative image analysis to arrive at logical conclusions when conducting research. In my opinion, to suggest the practice is "ludicrous" is naive and shortsighted as technological advancements in computer systems, graphic design applications, and image processing techniques to obtain meaningful information has aided examination analysis not hindered it. As far as the apparent "staple tears" on the back cover goes; from my perspective, something is visible in the imagery which appear to be tears perpendicular to the top staple. Two of the images created in 2003 and 2005, respectively, give an indication of the defect. However, it is somewhat difficult the ascertain the discontinuity in the latter two scans created in 2019 as the scans appear unnaturally white or "washed out." That said, when comparing all four scans side-by-side the physical traits of a tear are fairly established. If you observed the staple tears when looking at the book in person, then it may be reasonable to conclude the imagery comparison supports that observation. The only question I would have at this point is why the grader notes don't mention "staple tears." The below images are localized sections of subject book, back cover, upper staple. Top row, left to right: scanned images CGC 8.5 (March 2003), CGC 9.0 (October 2005), CGC 9.4 (September 2019), CGC 9.4 WC (October 2019). Images cropped and resized for dimensional consistency and presentation. Bottom row, left to right: scanned images with high-pass sharpening adjustment applied. (Click image for supersized view)
  3. New scan up on Heritage. Good to see the "Wind City" pedigree attributed reclaiming its history and heritage. Marvel Comics #1 (Timely, 1939) CGC NM 9.4 Off-white pages
  4. Here's another good look at the Larson Copy in its raw state prior to certification. The image is from Sotheby's Comic Books and Comic Art Catalogue, Sale 7008, June 1997. It's a great photo that portrays the roundness of the spine, among other physical aspects. However, 5-1/2 years after the initial 1991 Sotheby sale, the UV damage is apparent and noted in the auction description. Also described are additional defects not mentioned in the '91 sale. (Perhaps the then owner caused more damage other than the UV fading?) The side-by-side comparison below helps illustrate the UV damage. The images have not been adjusted post scanning.
  5. Okay... I think I get it now. So, the date of the press release indicates it was drafted sometime prior to the board's discovery that the book was a previous 8.5—>9.0 copy. The advert was most probably written based on the premise it was a new-to-market, never seen before original condition 9.4 copy. Therefore, the $2M estimate reflected same. However, once Heritage realized the jig was up, the estimate was adjusted to reflect a forecasted market value for an 8.5/9.0 copy. Makes sense.
  6. Thanks for the heads up, Mike. That is quite the variation in auction estimates. So, the Heritage press release of September 27, 2019, asserts an estimate $2 Million + Yet the book on display by Heritage at the NYCC, bearing the new pedigree label with the Windy City annotation, is advertised with a pre-auction estimate of $1M. What am I missing?
  7. I realize that there are those who may not know of my opinion on the matter as I have not posted in a few years. So, to be clear, I remain resolute in my position that any form of manipulation, pressing or otherwise, is restoration and should be disclosed to the prospective buyer so that an informed buying decision can be made. That said, there is compelling visual evidence that suggests the physical aspects of this book have been altered through manipulation so that the book appears to be in a better state of preservation or more valuable than it otherwise would be. IMHO, this book is not the "best of the best" regardless of the grade that adorns the label. That honor goes to the Pay Copy as there is no evidence to suggest, to my knowledge anyway, that it has undergone the treatment during the certification age.
  8. As of September 26, 2019, Certification Information now reflects the Windy City pedigree designation.
  9. So from a Restored CGC 9.4 to Universal CGC 9.0. What restoration was removed? Did they tear the bottom right corner off too? Yes, apparently the tear seals were removed. The book, however, remains restored as it was cleaned by solvent or aqueous treatment method, which justifies CGC's original restoration determination of "cleaned and pressed." Thus, the properly assigned original purple label. Why the copy is currently graded as Universal is anyone's guess. I have found additional information on the book. An excerpt from the April 2005 eBay auction description is below. The seller's copy is somewhat foretelling as to what would eventually become of the book. "It is my understanding that the very small tear seals can be professionally undone, leaving only the cleaning and pressing as the least possible form of restoration done to this magnificent pedigree book. It is also my considered opinion that many books that have been cleaned and/or pressed have made it through the grading process without receiving the restoration label at all." See the link below for full auction description. It's from rob_react's website It's All Just Comics, which is a great resource.
  10. Unfortunately, no. If I find additional info (currently looking) I'll post it.
  11. Definitely looks like it has gone through the treatment before. I would love to see some earlier images. Yup... appears a trip to the doctor was in order for this one. Here's the 411. Amazing Spider-Man #1 Bethlehem Copy Previous CGC 9.4 restored purple label. Certification number 0036906001. Sold raw by Metropolis as NM- 9.2 for $6,000 in 2004. Described as cleaned and pressed, 2 tiny tear seals. Sold on eBay as PLOD 9.4 for $12,000 on April 2, 2004. Sold on eBay as PLOD 9.4 for $16,899 on April 3, 2005. PLOD 9.4 certification number 0036906001 removed from CGC database (zeroed out). Current certification number 1625297002, grade date 09/12/2019. (That date rings a bell... )
  12. Gary C identified it as the Windy City and Jim Halprin told us that they’re having it added to the label as we speak Great news! Thank you.
  13. I know Parrino PAID $350K for the Pay Copy of MC 1. Are you sure he listed this copy for $350K? Below are images cut outs of the webpage header section and listing area of the MC#1 books that appeared on Jay Parrino's The Mint website on June 10, 2004. The Comic Inventory list is one webpage in length and quite long (A-Z), otherwise I'd posting it here.
  14. I had some free time over the weekend to put the visual aid below together. Hopefully it is helpful in painting a clearer picture as to the origin of subject book. Listed afterward are the references used. Especially interesting is the radio interview of Gary Colabuono and the story behind the Windy City collection. *************** *************** REFERENCES Comic Zone Radio Interview with Gary Colabuono July 26, 2005 (Segment 3) Windy City Pedigrees- What Did They Sell For? Started by Moondog, December 23, 2011 Link to Discussion Uniontown Evening Standard, Page 14A Mail Carrier Collects Magazines' First Issues July 7, 1955 White Rose Collection Started by Et-Es-Go, July 26, 2010 Gary Colabuono (Moondog) Reply Link to Discussion Press Release - December 30, 2002 Heritage to Auction the White Rose Collection in NYC Heritage Auction #806, Lot 3194 Marvel Comics #1 (Timely, 1939) CGC VF+ 8.5 Cream to off-white pages Heritage Client Testimonials – The White Rose Collection Hi from Jay Parrino Started by Jay, June 4, 2004 Jay Parrino's The Mint, Website Comic Book Inventory Retrieved April 11 and June 10, 2004 Marvel Comics #1 Timely Comics, 11/39 CGC Census Data Heritage Auction #818, Lot 2011 Marvel Comics #1 (Timely, 1939) CGC VF/NM 9.0 Cream to off-white pages Heritage Auction #7212, Lot TBD Marvel Comics #1 (Timely, 1939) CGC NM 9.4 Off-white pages
  15. Here's the Heritage press release announcing the White Rose Collection... ************* Press Release - December 30, 2002 Heritage to Auction the White Rose Collection in NYC Sensational Timely Collection, other Selected Rarities, will be Offered in Separate Catalog The buzz is true! In March of 2003, Heritage Comic Auctions will offer one of the nicest collections of Timely comic books ever to come to market. Special enough to merit a separate catalog, the White Rose Collection is replete with near-complete runs of the major Timely titles highlighted with some absolutely stunning individual high grade and pedigree copies. According to Heritage Comics Director of Auctions, John Petty, "This fabulous collection was accumulated by two extremely knowledgeable collectors during the 1980s, and none of these books have been offered for sale publicly or privately since that decade. Every one of them has been off the market for at least 14 years! Talk about a fresh collection - we've been besieged with requests regarding information on these books. The most dedicated Golden Age collectors know that this collection holds many of the prime pieces from the Timely mosaic." Most major key issues are represented, and many are the highest graded copies certified by the third-party grading service Comics Guaranty Corporation. (link to full press release)