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On 4/7/2024 at 8:34 PM, cloud cloddie said:
whatever that pocket thing is on Blue Beetle’s waist, it looks like b**ls on his piece. I thought it was nsfw at first. 👀
All vegetables and no meat, lol!
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On 4/7/2024 at 5:49 PM, malvin said:
He is probably reading this and I know he has friends on this board. What do to? Ask him to change his description and I'll delete the comment? He is still convinced that his piece is more legitimate than mine, since you can't see pencils on mine.
Malvin
This.
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On 4/2/2024 at 7:57 PM, PhilipB2k17 said:
Doesn't the cover to Fantastic Four 55 exist?
It does. I've seen it in person on my first trip to Florida from the UK. Ken Danker owned it at the time, and I'd made a side-trip to visit him along with my friend, Lloyd Braddy (who did the driving) . . . something like 20 years ago. Impressive piece of art though I seem to remember there being some noticeable glue stains along some of the edges.
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Heros the Spartan now finished.
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On 5/2/2022 at 8:51 PM, Rick2you2 said:Two separate questions:
(1) Who do you prefer as an artist, and if you have reasons, so much the better; and
(2) Who do you consider the more impactful artist in terms of OA, as a whole? For this question, I would separate out Adams’ work which improved artists’ pay, because I think that tilts the question too much towards Adams. I’m thinking more in terms of style of work. Poor Jack was more like a pin-cushion for publishers to take advantage of.
By the way, for me, the answer in both cases is Adams, but everyone has an opinion. As to #2, you can see Adams’ influence in, e.g.,Byrne, Grell, and Batista (who once confirmed it when I asked him) to name a few.
I like both artists though if pushed for an answer lean more heavily towards Kirby. Kirby's work spanned something like five decades and, for me, he pretty much defined the look of Marvel in the 1960s and became the house-style for other artists to follow. Stan Lee knew he was on to a winner, which is why you see lots of Kirby covers for books he may not necessarily have produced any interior artwork for.
For me, Jack's work leaned more towards cartooning, while Neal Adams was grounded in a realistic illustration style. Jack's artwork was an (imaginative) explosion of ideas likely dashed out very quickly while lingering in his mind . . . with Neal, the work seemed more controlled/planned and precise.
As such, I'd consider Kirby's work to have the greater overall impact. I don't see any of this as a competition . . . I like lots of different artists for different reasons and rarely obsess over such things.
In a similar way, this thread reminds me of two EC greats, Jack Davis and George Evans. Davis was a very fast spontaneous type of artist leaning towards cartooning, with Evans a more illustration type of guy. A Davis Horror story would often be quite grisly, but the cartoonist's style would often soften the Horror impact. When someone like Evans handled similar material, the illustrative style became more disturbing to look at. For example:
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On 3/16/2024 at 10:38 PM, cstojano said:
Movie adaptations were my entry point into comic OA, Conan in particular. I suspect there are a fair number of people coming from toy collecting and other 3D collecting pop culture areas into the hobby. I have no real interest in superhero art but have come to appreciate the artists. So for people interested in comic art and Kirby, the 2001 book is a nice sweet spot. Logan's Run, Island of Doctor Moreau, Star Wars, ESB, ROTJ, Blade Runner, 3 Indy films, both Conan films, etc. I sold most of this to fund a Warhammer art addiction, where I found I could still buy the art from the artist's hands, but still have 3 Blade Runner pages, including the recently acquired dps by Williamson. Wish I had stretched for the BR2 cover when HA had it, wish I had been involved when CL auctioned the Buscema Conan 1 cover (pre Arnold sig), wish I had stretched last year on the Hake's SW try-outs by Williamson...there's a pattern here
That said, no way I'd be into the Treasury 2001 at these prices. Later run pages could be had in the 3-4k range recently though no idea if that is still the case. I think the weird, cosmic, metaphysical pages are the sweet spot more so than multi-paneled talking men pages.
Blade Runner was an amazing movie adaptation for Marvel. Some of the location filming for the movie took place in downtown Los Angeles's historic Bradbury Building . . . same as (earlier) the 1964 OUTER LIMITS teleplay for 'Demon With a Glass Hand'. I've visited the Bradbury maybe half-a-dozen times from trips to LA from the UK. I think the Internal Affairs division of LAPD occupy most of the upper floors. Visitors are certainly allowed free access to the ground floor . . . where the following plaque is on display:
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On 3/14/2024 at 8:04 AM, MyNameIsLegion said:
I'm in good company then!
seriously, if you look through the CAF premium dashboard by most views, the top 20 pieces of all the things I have on CAF are dominated by the Romero's, but hardly a one of them has a comment or a like. My most commented and liked pieces are a fraction of the views of anything titillating.
It's an interesting phenomenon. I have something like 80+ Movie Poster original paintings, and the most viewed is this one:
It's a decent painting, but this and a few others (showing a bit of flesh) are the top hitters.
Nekkid (or semi-clothed women) seem to hit that (ahem) sweet spot for some people. ;)
Diffedrent strokes for different folks?*
*Think I'll stop there before I 'milk' this further!
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On 3/14/2024 at 6:47 AM, drdroom said:
OK, that's interesting. What niggles me though, is 2001 is an important FILM property, created by Clarke and Kubrick. The much later comic adaptation? That seems kind of trivial (much as I like the series). Kamandi is much less known of course, but it's Kirby's own creation. So I'm still puzzled, but the market has spoken. Shoulda bought a bunch of those caveman pages back when the getting was good!
Pages from the MCG adaptation of Blade Runner seem to do pretty well.
I own about 45% of the DC adaptation of Harlan Ellison's teleplay for The Outer Limits episode, 'Demon With a Glass Hand' and would welcome new additions!
2001 was an iconic movie . . . and Kirby an iconic artist . . . and he expanded beyond his movie adaptation with a series of books that morphed into Machine Man.
How about Star Wars, which turned into a long-running book?
Planet of the Apes magazine . . . which spawned new stories?
You get the picture (no pun intended, lol!)?
To be fair, MCG produced a lot of cr@p movie adaptations . . . but in-between the dreary stuff, some were pretty good.
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On 3/12/2024 at 8:48 PM, drdroom said:
You didn't use the word, but, I mean, saying you'd pick a 4-panel 2001 page over, for example, this...?
Yeah, it's an impressive DPS, as a piece of art, but as I could never get into the 4th World books, I have no emotional attachment to the drawing. As a collector, and I imagine it would apply to others, I prefer the (successful) marriage of art and story complementing one another to hit my sweet spot.
Seems to bother you more than it bothers me, Aaron? If you liked those books and collect the OA . . . hey, good on you. May the OA god look down favorably on you and magic more pages your way!
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On 3/12/2024 at 4:53 PM, drdroom said:
Seriously? You hate the Fourth World that much? I mean, I'm glad, I wish everyone did so I could have it all, but those DPS's are pinnacles of Kirby's career.
Hate? That's a strong word . . . that I didn't use. Don't hate it, no, just didn't care much for it . . . and I'm a Kirby fan
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On 3/11/2024 at 7:26 PM, drdroom said:
I was presenting this as a ridiculous no-brainer: panel page with no one on it vs DPS featuring title character at lower price!? But maybe I'm missing something. The 2001 page has Kirby's variation on the famous bone-to-spacecraft cut--does that seem valuable? I'm just really trying to understand this result ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ah, right, my bad, lol!
If it had been the 2001 page vs a Fourth World DPD, I'd have gone for the former!
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On 3/10/2024 at 6:06 PM, drdroom said:
Which Kirby deal would you choose? Left: 18,750. on Heritage. Right: 16,250. on Comiclink.
Kamandi DPS for me . . . though I do like the 2001 page. Kamandi and The Demon were the only two (DC) Kirby books I actually followed in the 1970s.
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On 3/5/2024 at 6:45 PM, grapeape said:
UPDATE: There is strong evidence that in 1966, this artwork was reworked by another artist (possibly Marie Severin) with some alterations and then published as one of the 6-foot "life-sized" posters of different Marvel characters that were sold as a set that year (see fourth image below). Evidence supporting this includes a note on the right side of the artwork that says "5 1/2 FEET HIGH BM-MATTE" (see second image below). Also supporting this is the similarity of the pose between the original artwork and the published poster. In the published poster, the right arm and left leg were repositioned and some additional inking was added. The image was tilted about 20 degrees to the left.
The 6-foot Spider-Man poster is one of the 'Holy Grails' of Spider-Man merchandise collectors. While the artwork sources for the other Marvel characters in the 6-foot posters set has always been easy to document, that has not been the case for the Spider-Man image until now. We believe that the discovery of this historic artwork can now put that long-time mystery to bed! Note that in addition to the 6-foot poster, the altered image was also part of the "Personality Posters", a set of 12" x 17" posters of eight Marvel characters also published in 1966. The altered image was also used as part of the 1966 Donruss Marvel card set. It appeared on both the retail display box and on a montage of heroes that appeared on the back of the cards when they were displayed in order (See fifth image below). The altered image The altered image was also used for the cover of the first comic book in Brazil to feature Spider-Man, published in 1968 (see sixth image below).From the keyboard warriors on this thread, fueled by Mountain Dew and Doritos, (Unca Ben most notably) we'd like to take a moment to say; "YOU'RE WELCOME !"
Glen Gold got the ball rolling on this one by posting one of the poster images. From Glen's clue, it was then easy to fit the pieces together and see the Ditko illustration for what it actually is/was.. Kudos to Glen.
By the way, when I contacted Josh at C-Link, I sent him a detailed analysis of what it was he was actually auctioning off . . . plus a link to this thread (which is why you're now seeing those additional images on the auction listing).
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I just e-mailed Josh at C-link to inform him of the good news and to suggest he alters the description to reflect what it is he's actually auctioning-off. He's just acknowledged my e-mail, so hopefully a more accurate description will follow.
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On 3/2/2024 at 9:36 AM, Unca Ben said:
oh, and i think that the pin up is awesome among the best ditko spideys that i've seen. i would give my left nut to own this.
Absolutely, and good to see someone else paying close attention to what should be oh-so-obvious! Once you've done your homework and come to the realization that Ditko's original drawing served as the basis (in altered format) for the single-figure poster and Marvel Super Heroes group shot . . . it's probably one of the most iconic images of Spidey ever seen.
Published as originally illustrated, no.
Published in altered format, yes
Definitely of its era, how can anyone claim otherwise, lol!.
Oh, and I don't see this as being some kind of rejected (alternative) art for the ASM #3 pin-up that Mandel owns. You just have to see the way Ditko inked Spidey's webbing in the early issues with thicker line-work in particular.. The webbing became more delicately-inked later on in the run.
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Not comic art but might be of interest . . .
Large pencil conceptual drawing for the 1964 William Castle movie, THE NIGHT WALKER (one of my favourites) Interestingly, for the Demon at centre, the resulting movie posters added a pair of underpants for him to wear (no self-respecting demon should be seen in public without them!) and all the surrounding monster-types got censored-out of the printed poster. The artwork actually forms the basis of the movie's introductory title sequence (see screen caps in additional images) . . .
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On 7/6/2023 at 6:43 PM, Rick2you2 said:
Live in a building with a lot of security.
Prisoner?
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Currently in the process of sculpting Heros the Spartan from the famous Eagle magazine of the 1950s and 60s. Here's a work-in-progress update of where I'm up to on this project. Still lots of work to do on the head, and probably looks a bit peculiar as it now is, but you'll have to use your mind's eye to fill-in the missing areas . . . such as the plume, ears, side-flaps, visor bolts, visor detail and cloaked shoulder area! I've already got a (generic) base for this and the finished bust will be the head, on top of a (cloaked) shoulder area affixed to the base. The single face photo is of a resin cast I made for possible future re-use, should I need a ready-prepared generic face! I'll do a further w-i-p update as and when significant progress merits it . . .
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On 2/26/2024 at 8:43 PM, grapeape said:
Terry I'm not sure there is one. I just want to see what if anything might be there. The treasure Hunter in me.
Artie Simek rocks!!!!
Hey, Mike
My question was a rhetorical one, asked for effect, and aimed at those wondering if a CCA stamp was on the back of the artwork. That is, if Lee decided (for whatever reason) not to publish the art in any of his books, why would it ever have been submitted to the CCA for censorship scrutiny/publication green-light?
I get that you're curious if anything was on the back of the art (it's not uncommon to find thumbnail sketches and the like, or maybe notes). That's a different kind of interest.
UPDATE: There is strong evidence that in 1966, this artwork was reworked by another artist (possibly Marie Severin) with some alterations and then published as one of the 6-foot "life-sized" posters of different Marvel characters that were sold as a set that year (see fourth image below). Evidence supporting this includes a note on the right side of the artwork that says "5 1/2 FEET HIGH BM-MATTE" (see second image below). Also supporting this is the similarity of the pose between the original artwork and the published poster. In the published poster, the right arm and left leg were repositioned and some additional inking was added. The image was tilted about 20 degrees to the left.
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