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Another important element to consider is just how much money could be made from reholdering. I'm fully convinced that CGC is probably holding off on this until there are many more holders with this issue so that they can reap an immediate windfall from just reholdering all of the cases that collectors and even dealers will want to reholder. I only have a dozen or so slabs but even that is a couple of hundred easy dollars for them. Add a potential few dozen slabs more that I could have in the next couple of years and all of sudden they have $1,000 of free money from me. I don't care about the money. I just want the issue corrected as soon as possible so that I don't burn out on the hobby with disgust. Add up all of the people that would reholder if Newton Rings were corrected, and I gotta believe that would probably easily pay for this equipment they have to buy almost immediately. But of course, they could have a substantially better ROI if they accrued hundreds of thousands of more slabs with this issue. This reholdering seems like an imbedded part of Collectors Universe's model for obvious reasons and I'm betting that is also the case here.

I did read them and I'm bot sure what you're trying to say. It proved NOTHING and I did not find any decent response from CGC. As if "general consensus" means anything here. The ONLY thing that ultimately matters is what CGC is going to do. Profits right now are a function of a bunch of flippers. It's easy flipping and making free money in an environment like today. And who's to say they wouldn't get even more submissions if they didn't have this issue? When the submissions dry up when the economy pulls back (and likely in a way that NONE of us have ever seen in our lives), we'll see how those submission do. You're making the correlation here that the submission levels are somehow indicative that people are happy with CGC slabs. I completely agree that people are happy with the MONEY that can be made from them, but not necessarily the slabs themselves (which you've already stipulated).

Persistent complaints by a large number of constituents almost ALWAYS leads to change. Your idea of giving up basically is letting CGC do whatever it wants to its customer base.

I understand everything you're saying. But almost ALL topics here and on every forum is about constantly beating dead horses. Your choice is to read or ignore. As for myself, I will post whatever I feel like whenever I feel like within the rules of the forum. I have read the historical posts. What has that got to do with anything we are talking about here and now??? All you're saying is that people have already complained. So what? CGC can still take action at any time, which is the hope here. Or are you saying that CGC has made some declarative statement that I missed which would be certainly of value and help with understanding their stance. As for money being most fundamental in a capitalist economy, it's most fundamental in any economy. But there is a shortsightedness that MANY businesses operate under, which limits the long-term success or for that matter it's basic viability. Most businesses who ignore their customers eventually wind up paying for that in spades.

There are costs to everything for every business. I have no idea of the dollars involved but if they want me to do a free ROI analysis for them, I'd be happy to. You may very well be right that nothing may happen but just think about how ridiculous that sounds. Basically, you're saying that CGC is taking the position: "We don't really care how the book looks inside the slabs." Yet that is one of the most fundamental elements of their value proposition. And while I'm no expert, I understand that their competitors don't have this issue. If that is the case, WHY is that so? I have NEVER seen any comparable issue in the dozens of generations of slabs that exist in the coin world or the sports card world.

CGC books are becoming like Picassos or Van Goghs with glass covers where the glass has been randomly painted all over the place largely obstructing the painting's beauty. Who would really hang that in their home?

That's because the entire economy has been inflated like a bubble pushing asset values of everything to the sky. It has been purely a money function recently across comics, cards, whatever. We'll see how they hold up when the calamity hits and there is no easy money to be made by virtually anyone in comics.

Well it would be ultimately to their detriment IMO.

If we're saying that it doesn't matter or who cares, then all we're saying is that CGC books are ONLY for investing (comics are a horrible investment IMO) or as a store of value. Collecting means nothing if it doesn't matter that the book looks as sharp as can be. This isn't some minor nuisance. It really is a MAJOR eyesore. I don't think of that as an opinion but objective fact.

Obviously they would need to change something because what they're doing now isn't working. I mean when a comic book is placed in a slab, you can't read it (not that you would really want to with a high dollar book). All you have is the beauty of the front cover to appreciate. And it's difficult and often impossible to appreciate when there are Newton Rings all over the place. If CGC doesn't eventually correct this in the foreseeable future, I can't fathom I'll be collecting graded books for much longer.

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First off, I am big fan of her work but am not affiliated with her in any way and have never met or talked to her. I just want to be clear that I am not shilling here. I've purchased a few dozen prints over the past few weeks and have been very pleased with everything I have received. Anyway, I just want to give you folks a heads up that many of her prints are being sold for $5 each which is embarrassingly cheap. Here is the link for those of you interested:

Yes, though not as plentiful. I just don't understand why CGC can't get its act together on this issue. T

I have had a couple of deeper wells that both had Newton Rings. No issues with moving around inside as I recall.

So do dealers usually not comply with the cash transaction reporting requirements where if someone buys a $15K comic for cash, they don't file a SAR (Suspicious Activity Report) on the transaction?

First off, it's not normal to charge tax at collectibles trade shows. That's how it's always been and seems to be today. So Id on't thing of sales tax at shows as being "almost always added". In fact, I consider them rarely added, even when I've often paid by credit card, albeit they usually want the fees grossed up. Also, I'm not familiar with comic cons, but in cards and coins, buyers don't expect sellers at conventions to be selling at a discount to eBay. In fact usually a fair amount more. Unless you're referring to sellers who overprice on eBay as a matter of course and rarely ever actually sell anything.

I'd venture to guess that large consignors are not even charged a commission and in fact get more than 100% of the hammer (pre buyers' premium). At least that's how things work in their coin world.

Having never read a Daredevil issue, I can't comment on the quality of the writing but the great thing about a Daredevil run would be the relative affordability. Even for a few thousand bucks, you can get nice mid grade examples of the entire run.

You don't actually READ these things do you???

For instance, if I buy a $1000 at comic con, should I expect it to be closer to $1100 or is it assumed that the tax is baked in?

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Spider-Gwen #24, JSC Variant A I'll take this.

I appreciate all the responses. OC, I really like your idea because I always preferred the portfolio form factor for storage purposes but only ran across cheesy and/or flimsy looking options with pages that didn't look all that clear like mylar or apparently this polyglass situation. Anyhow, it sounds like this is the thing I should be getting???: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RP55PS/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

For those of you who buy and store comic art prints (primarily of the 11 x 17 variety), what are the various common methods of storing them? I was thinking about Ultra Pro top loaders but they don't appear to be archival quality (not sure). I would prefer to order mylar from E. Gerber but they have two different types (flaps and no flaps) and I'm confused. I'd love to see a pic of either if anyone has one Any other common methods to consider?

I'll take it