jas1vans

The easy stuff is rarely worth it.

I didn't watch. Did that video shed any new light on this?

Count me in please.

I was under the impression they were unrelated. I thought that the two alleged scammers were submitting books shown to be swapped as far back as 2016 where the former employees were only employed at CGC for a short period of time more recently.

"When a book is sent in for a reholder service the book is removed from its outer shell and its inner well. Both must be replaced as the crack-out process can cause damage and scuffing to the inner well." That was the quote from CGC's CS rep. If this is actually the case, how much of the blame is on the alleged scammers and how much is on the company who does not follow their own protocols? I'm not trying to blame CGC completely, but if they aren't following their own rules, it's really tough to feel any sympathy for them.

It's a shame that CGC can't take high res scans, create accurate grader notes, and encapsulate and send the books in question back to their owners. Ensure their condition until/if they were needed further. Then they could decide what to do about making those people whole. No book and no compensation seems like a real Richard move to me.

I remember a discussion about this in the grading section. I think it was considered a manufacturing defect and didn't count against the grade, but I'm not 100% on that.

Our MIL's must get their food from the same grocery store. Mine is full of s**t too!

Did the "kid" put red ink anywhere else on the book?

Do you have proof of payment to the comic shop owner? An invoice stating what you paid for? What evidence do you have that these books are yours, that you paid for the submission, etc? Were the books shipped to you or the comic shop? I was under the impression all submissions were sent ONLY to the address on the account.

Google, "wayback machine". Copy and paste the address from the first page of the thread. It will say, "Saved 3 times between December 20, 2021 and October 20, 2022." Double click on December 20, 2021 and it should take you right to the first page.

Thought this was a Peabody and Sherman reference until I looked it up. Thank you! It's nice to see those pics can still be viewed.

Looking at a book and zoomed in and thought the upper left corner was a little questionable. Any thoughts?

Maybe they would want some transparency into how a grading company certifying valuable collectibles can be manipulated in such an efficient manner, hoping the exposure would provide some incentive to prevent future manipulation. A short term monetary setback to protect the value of a large collection of CGC graded books might be worth it to some. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read, the trimming fiasco ended in a "Now don't you ever do this again."

If somebody had one of these mis-slabbed books, wouldn't they be better served keeping the book and filing a suit against the perps and CGC together? I had an issue with a home purchase and had to threaten a suit against my realtor, the seller, and the seller's realtor. In the end, all three agreed to pay a portion instead of take it to court and sort out who was most to blame. Couldn't BOTH be seen as liable for the situation? Scammers for scamming, CGC for missing the scam? Would the book give the owner more leverage to get a solution than sending it to CGC, where they are then at the mercy of CGC's timeline?