BigMookie

Interesting study, but I don't know if it's "loneliness" in my case. I understand that we romanticize the past and gloss over the problems of other eras, but things do seem a lot more wild now, or at least that's the perception created by the internet with having too much access to information regarding world events.  That nostalgia seems more like escapism both in story and in mental time/headspace as far as I'm concerned.  Same thing goes for video games...there was something elegant in their simplicity and tasks to be performed.  Too much realism in games removed the magic for me, personally

On 10/27/2023 at 3:50 AM, Nexus said:

Your take on this does come off like a case of sour grapes for the consignor. But what I believe the OP was trying to say is that the dealer may have taken the cover on "consignment" and then immediately "sold" it...to himself. At perhaps below market value. And is now flipping it himself 18 months later. At a much higher value. Read his post again.

Or maybe that's not what happened. Whatever the case may be, consignors should have the right to know who bought their art. IMO.

The dealer most definitely did not do that, I know this 100%.  I'll admit its sour grapes but still not for the reason that most are assuming, I don't think.  There's some in the hobby that I've seen, and I figure others do too, that will go around and pick up pieces from regular dealers like who I've dealt with, and also canvas the groups and forums, standard early preview drop emails, buying up as many examples of an artist as possible, soaking up the supply, then put them back out there for multiple times the purchase price and likely actual market value.  My concern wasn't about my dealer at all...but rather another one of the types I described, which I think really throw a wrench in the organic growth of the hobby. I think that was my shock in such a massive price jump when I haven't seen any other examples in the market.  Look, if I sold too early and someone else benefits from an organic market jump, so be it.  I sold my low grade copy of Avengers #1 around the same time at market value.  Now that book is worth at least double.  You can chart it's organic increase over time.
 

In a hobby that does have a lot of upward movement, a lot of new interest lately, its a small group of folks doing what I mentioned above. I don't believe at all that there were any shenanigans going on on the part of my dealer, and I also know Panel Page is up and up. My shock was over such a drastic increase and a gut reaction figuring it was the type of person I described above.  I guess seeing what happens to other Robertson Marvel work, or pages from this run, will tell in time. 

I don't think I have a right to know who bought my artwork though...seems like a client/business privacy thing...even though I'd be torn if I knew it was one of the type of individuals I mentioned, buying up a supply then pumping a price.  I think that was my gut reaction about going through dealers...but in retrospect there's no way to balance that.  They have a bigger reach, but then again you don't know who is purchasing things.  Their position is neutral intermediary as it has to be. That's the only logical tradeoff.  I hope all that made sense. 

Is anyone familiar or know a dealer that goes by "SupremeComics"? I've been looking at some OA that they've got for sale, but I can't find out any info on them, so I figured I would start here. Thanks! :)

I reached out to Rob a week or so ago....crickets   I work with another artist who knows him/used to work with him. I've reached out to him as well and waiting to hear back.

Thanks for the info!!!

I've seen some art pop up lately that is allegedly 8" x 11" in format on Image Comics bristol board.  Is this a thing? I'm trying to determine if the art is legit or a good forgery and have never heard of that format for artwork. Of course...I will be brave and say it's "Liefeld" artwork (braces himself for the onslaught of anti-Liefeld criticisms)...but hey, it was a part of my childhood and I dig it. Thanks for any help!

1 hour ago, alxjhnsn said:

I think it's probably neutral on the value IF and ONLY IF the signature is well placed. If it's too prominent, it will lower the value.

Lovely piece by the way. Gil's work is terrific.

As long as its effect is no worse than neutral, I'm good with that. It's more for my own benefit than anything else, I just didn't want to destroy the value of the piece (and I still may not do it). Frank Castle has been my spirit animal since I was about 10, so having signatures of all those involved in his creation is a goal of mine, lol!

1 minute ago, Oddball said:

If the OA is published I wouldn’t add anything or alter it in any way. I have published art including a cover in which the artist did not sign for whatever reason. The cover is edge to edge art and he probably thought his signature would detract somehow. So I will keep it original as published. That’s just me, I don’t flip out when I see people adding signatures to classic art, I just wont be a bidder at game time. Too much art out there that’s still in its original unmolested state.

Commissions are a different story, go to town on them.

It was never published as far as I know. I totally get it though...hence the struggles. It's also why I'm not cracking open my 8.5 ASM 129. Once I pay for signature and reslabbing, I'll be over $200 into it, and it doesn't enhance its value to ME for that amount. 

16 minutes ago, GotSuperPowers? said:

Get him to sign it on the skull.  Nice and prominent.

Seriously though, I would do it for a page on a story written by an author, but not for a pinup that wasn't from an issue they wrote.  I don't think it would detract from it value-wise unless it was horribly placed, but I don't think it's anything that adds to it.  It is, of course, your piece so if you like the idea of it, I wouldn't say it's wrong at all.

Do you think it's different in this situation, since he created the character and the basic look?

I have an original piece of Punisher artwork drawn, inked, and signed by Gil Kane.  It's a really nice pinup piece as it is. However, Gerry Conway (the co-creator of Punisher for those who don't know!) is coming to the local comic shop this weekend and I'm wondering if it's a bad idea to have him sign the artwork as well.  I'm not doing it to up the value, but I also don't want it to bring it down either (you never know when you'll need cash in a pinch...sick kid, etc). Any thoughts on this? Thank yoU!!!!

On 9/24/2018 at 1:26 PM, Mr. Zipper said:

I agree that the two signatures with the "Best Wishes" sentiment are authentic. I do not believe the other three are authentic.

One thing to look for is in the J. I would avoid any Kirby signature in which the J is pieced together using two or three separate strokes. This is not a trait you find in authentic verified examples.  

That's interesting. I'm glad you chimed in Mr. Zipper. The FF 72 shown here with the member opinions as being fake is being sold on EBay right now for $300. Keep the legit, pawn off the fakes?

On 9/12/2018 at 11:54 AM, TwoPiece said:

As someone, who as a younger self, was somewhat of an expert calligrapher and signature verification analyst... My initial instinct is that this is a forgery.

Those dots in the last name felt wrong to me, as well. It's a shame...but I guess perhaps not because of the sky high price that's being asked. The irony is that the PSA/DNA quick opinion service that I got on it said "likely real"...SIGH. I've heard about PSA/DNA problems with forgeries as well.

My gut is that it's quite possibly a fake, but seeing I have no real experience in this, I figured I'd put it out there to more experienced folks like yourselves. The comic also has a series of stamps on the back from the old comic shop "Comics and Comix" out of Berkeley, CA.  I've seen other comics from that shop who got the same stamp treatment on the back cover as well. I mean, it could work towards it's authenticity, but my paranoid gut also tells me that it may have made this comic a more likely target for a forgery. The ultra premium price that was being asked also makes me hesitant...moreso than even the Marvel Masterpiece X-Men #1 and FF #1's from Dynamic Forces.  SO hard to find ones with good provenance.

Anyone have any tips on being able to spot fakes with these Kirby signatures?

I'm just getting into the hobby of getting signed comics, and of course, I pick Jack Kirby as one of my first goals.  I've done a good bit of reading and looking at confirmed signatures, the DF comics, etc...however, I haven't seen anything that kind of chronicles things to look for in fakes of his signature. I've seen the terrible knock off ones which bear no resemblance to his signature, but picking out the key things that all genuine ones possess has been elusive. For example, here's one I've looked at recently which in some ways compares favorably, but in other ways it looks fake to me (the "y" and the dot at the top of the "b" like it was start/stop). Does this one look genuine? The quick opinion from PSA/DNA was "likely genuine", but I know its still up in the air til they had it in-hand. I guess I'm looking for both opinions on this one, and what qualities or red flags tend to be rules with his autographs. Thanks!!

First time poster, so if this is the WRONG board, I apologize!   I'm just getting into the hobby of getting signed comics, and of course, I pick Jack Kirby as one of my first goals.  I've done a good bit of reading and looking at confirmed signatures, the DF comics, etc...however, I haven't seen anything that kind of chronicles things to look for in fakes of his signature. I've seen the terrible knock off ones which bear no resemblance to his signature, but picking out the key things that all genuine ones possess has been elusive. For example, here's one I've looked at recently which in some ways compares favorably, but in other ways it looks fake to me (the "y" and the dot at the top of the "b" like it was start/stop). Does this one look genuine? The quick opinion from PSA/DNA was "likely genuine", but I know its still up in the air til they had it in-hand. I guess I'm looking for both opinions on this one, and what qualities or red flags tend to be rules with his autographs. Thanks!!