ORRGO THE UNCONQUERABLE

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  1. Just about done with my full FF run. 1-416 heroes reborn 1-12 vol 3 1-70 500-588 600-659. Really annoying the reboots and re numbering’s. I’m missing vol 1 #1 ,#4 #5 big keys and very expensive so I’ll save until I can grab them. my favorites are the Kirby’s till #102. not too concerned with grades as long as the cover looks decent. Only one that is beat to hell is #48 which I might upgrade. collecting full runs is tough when there’s an artist writer combo you don’t like. I honestly don’t find too many people buying full runs of titles.
  2. Marvel and DC had cover art that reflected the story for years, and still do. not sure what you’re taking about. I personally HATE “realistic” covers. Comics is one if the few mediums where you can have stuff that looks insane or silly and it works. No need to make it DULL or mimic movies, that’s just handicapping one of comics strengths. not only do I hate realistic covers I hate covers that have nothing to do with the story and I hate variants. I bailed out of collecting/reading in the 90’s when everything had a bagged trading card or a silver embossed cover. It’s all geared toward dirks who think they’ll make money. All of those comics are worthless now and these will be too. I hate the whole “flipping” section of comic fans. These are the individual_without_enough_empathys who go and buy every jack Kirby eternals when Feige announces a movie coming. There’s no love of comics it’s a love of money, if they like money that much there’s much more in the stock market. anything geared toward flipping or collecting not reading I hate and variants/pin ups/realism is all that. Honestly they are the new 90’s garbage all over again. When this phase passes no one will be rabidly looking for these stupid variants or eighth first issue. I’m 42 and started collecting at 9 years old in 86. I read from 86-91. I still buy FF to complete my collection but all I buy now are silver and bronze. I buy jack Kirby 70’s captain America to read and they are all under $5 bucks. I buy 70’s marvel two in one, same thing - $3-$5 bucks. In a perfect world people who be obsessively collecting these books with fun stories and dynamic Energetic visual storytelling. I try modern comics but it’s all pretentious, overly clever or laden with pop culture winks and is mostly people in apartments talking about relationships, if not that it’s bad modern writers who have horrible takes on characters they don’t understand like Tom kings Batman or the new dr doom series. anyways someone feel free to post old man Simpson yelling at clouds since that’s the defacto response to something like this.
  3. This was listed for $1200 i bartered down to $800. I opened it up and it looks great to me. For that price and a nice looking #2 I’m happy
  4. I’m kind of going round and round on this— Assuming it had trimming I bought a really good looking FF #3 for $320. People are acting like I bought it for $1600 or more and got ripped off. The worst case scenario is I bought it for that much THINKING it’s perfect and I try and SELL it for multiples of what I bought it for — then a buyer points out it’s trimmed and it’s “only” worth what I paid. I’d argue even then that a slightly trimmed FF#3 is worth more than $320. But it’s all a moot point because I don’t sell comics I buy. I’m not a “flipper” and I don’t buy “hot keys” hoping they’ll go up. I want FF#5 because it’s an amazing Kirby issue with the first appearance of my favorite villain AND I’d be that much closer to completing my run. Not because it’s “hot” “Hot” books and playing the market has no interest for me. I want the Eternals because it’s Kirby not because there’s a movie coming out. for all the people thinking I got ripped off- what would you price the comic I posted? $150 bucks? There’s no universe where you can buy that early of an FF with a nice cover and white pages for that amount unless you have a Dolorean and hit the pedal to 88 miles per hour.
  5. Guess I had a horrible time completing my run then. News to me.
  6. The reality is many books I buy between 300-600 come in slabs. I just haggled a Slabbed restored $1200 FF #2 down to $800. I bought a slabbed 3.0 FF #12 for $500. Am I being ripped off? I dunno but those seemed like decent buys to round out my collection. Then I crack the slab because I don’t dig them.
  7. A sensible person. Thank you. Yes I agree there’s very knowledgeable people here and I can appreciate their viewpoint. It just came across as angry old guys telling me I’m being ripped off and am stupid for using eBay. I know that’s not maybe what they meant but it comes across that way. There’s a way to say what they’re saying without being bitter know it alls.
  8. I love how everyone assumes it’s crazy restored and I’m being ripped off (for $320??) a lot of poo pooing me to elevate yourselves and your skills. Relax. You all serve a purpose and I’m glad people go to cons and comic shops. I’d love to send it to cgc just to quiet you guys. But I’m not even interested in that because I have no interest in selling it. in a perfect world my LCS would have a great selection of back silver age back issues with multiple grades of issues. But they don’t and eBay does. C’est la vie
  9. You didn’t specifically say you’d sell that book, but you did say: For years I have been buying books fromshops and shows and selling them for more on ebay. I never said that dude. I’ve never sold anything on eBay only bought “the blob” said that. People are defensive kind of fit no reason and are attributing things to me I didn’t say. Take a look at what I’m ACTUALLY saying - it’s not that controversial
  10. Ahh yeah I figured, only the older dudes like FF this much
  11. You seem annoyed/angry that I got a nice looking FF #3 for $320 bucks. Who said anything about me selling it, I was just speculating and what it’s probably worth. And if it’s “trimmed” (I don’t think it is) then okay I have a great book with minor restoration. I just am a fan of fantastic four and want to own the full run and am happy with any book that looks okay. I’m not looking to “flip” anything. my point about comic shops (at least in LA) is that I would like to go to them but their selection and prices don’t match eBay. I guess I could see your argument if I was looking exclusively for high grade RAWs and was dropping thousands on single issues but I’m not. I just go to a shop and they don’t have much in terms of silver age back issues - and I live in a major city, I can only imagine if I lived someplace smaller the selection of comic stores would shrink. I posted FF 3 (cuz someone asked me to) as an example of a nice find. I’m not trying to argue comic shops should close, I love comic shops I’m arguing that for me it makes more sense to use eBay for price and selection. granted - many of the places I buy from are mike high or comic stores, I just don’t happen to live next to shops that have great selections and multiple grades of silver age issues. people get really persnickety here, geez.
  12. Nice! Another serious FF collector. Curious - how old are you? I don’t find many people my age or younger that would get a full FF run.
  13. I stopped really collecting past 1998 heroes reborn/return. Once marvel rebooted everything it felt different, aside from busieks avengers nothing felt like what I read in the 80’s. i now focus on silver and bronze. I just completed my almost full fantastic four run (missing #1 #4 #5) I just bought everything post heroes reborn where the numbering gets all screwed up. 1-70 500-588 600-611 i also, being a completist I bought the next two volumes limited run and now Dan slotts ultra crappy new FF. His writing is garbage but the completist in me buys anyway hoping a writer who halfway understands action and characters shows up. modern writing, especially the last few years has been total drek. New young writers my age (42) or younger who don’t understand the characters, don’t write dynamic action and it’s all sitting around making quips and trying to out clever everyone and use modern slang. I don’t want to her The Thing talk about Memes. Doctor Doom should not be swearing and smacking TV hosts and acting like a insufficiently_thoughtful_person politician. this is not to mention all the Pc race gender swapping etc etc ( I’m liberal btw) and pandering to anime manga art fans. Nothing is like it used to be and I prefer the way it used to be so thankfully there’s 1961-1998 marvel I can still buy and enjoy. (Though really it’s more like 61-91) Everyone’s going nuts for Hickman’s house of x but it’s just more convoluted nonsense.
  14. Didn’t say was easy. Just citing that I’d never be able to walk into a comic shop and find it at that price. I’d also just plain not find an FF#3. Or it would be rare. Most comic shops I been to in Los Angeles don’t have a ton of Kirby stuff. Just a small selection of none at all.
  15. Actually $320 bucks. From what I’d say it’s a solid 6.0 so that should sell for $1200-$1600. an eBay gem
  16. I’ve bought all kinds of raw silver age on eBay. Just bought Bronze Age marvel two in one #1-100. That’s my issue, I live in LA and I couldn’t walk into any comic shop or con and get 100 issues of a full run, good price or no, most places just don’t have many back issues. granted some of the places I’ve bought from are actual stores on eBay, they are like in the middle of the country. my point is I could go to a con and ask if they have FF 19-45 for like under 35/40 bucks a pop and they wouldn’t have it or they would but it would be priced a lot higher. I can go on eBay and get exactly what I’m looking for at a reasonable price. You even find deals. I got an FF #3 grade 5-6 for $350. There’s no way a shop would let that go at that price. I would love to support dealers but they don’t have the issue availability nor the right price,
  17. Slightly off topic but I do haggle at shops and cons slightly (I’m 42) I find that for r what I’m Looking for shops and cons can’t really compare to eBay. I go to a physical place , they don’t have what I’m looking for (mid grade Kirby FF) so I go online and get it at various prices. Or conversely they DO have what I want but they have one copy and I can still get it cheaper on eBay. I’m never looking for high high grade cgc graded, so maybe that’s a different market. how do dealers even compete with eBay? I honestly would LOVE to go into my LCS but I’m just throwing away money when I do.
  18. What do people mean by “runs” like the Chris Claremont Byrne “run” on X-men or like 1-100 on titles or like actual full runs as in every issue. currently I own fantastic four #3 and then #6 - #656. So for me the run is all FF annuals included. I’m only missing 1,2,4,5. Having read the Lee Kirby stuff I know have a whole decade of the 1970’s to read. From the 80’s I know everything till about 1998. So that means I will start picking up again in the Pacheco loeb era. from what I can tell/have heard- I won’t like mark waids run, JMS, or mark millar but I might like Jonathan Hickman’s run. currently hate dan slots writing and the art and hoping someone good eventually replaces him and the myriad of bad pencilers.
  19. I would pay 5.5k if I had it. Nice eye appeal.
  20. I would say a big no on all those and get FANTASTIC FOUR #1. its expensive in any grade but once the movie comes out in 4 years or so you’ll see it get even less affordable. Its the literal start of the marvel universe and a bigger key issue than most you listed. Give it a good movie a huge hit and 10k will get you less then. Get in now.
  21. I'm missing #1 #2 #4 #5 - this is next on my list. What a great looking copy. A recent purchase?
  22. Have to Disagree. Dr. Doom is Marvel's #1 villain. The most iconic looking and a bigger threat to your average hero. In the Marvel universe, Dr Doom instills way more fear and dread into heroes minds than the green goblin. The green goblin is not a global or cosmic threat in the same way Doom is, nor has he pestered other heroes nearly as much as Doom. He's basically just a spiderman villain, I know recently they made norman Osborn interact with more heroes ala Lex Luthor as well as making him more threatening but that is a very recent development. Doom has been harassing the Avengers, the xmen, spidey, the hulk and of course the FF since his inception in the early '60s. He's also beaten just about everyone, Galactus, the Beyonder, thanos etc. as far a power level he really dwarfs the green goblin. The movies don't have much to do with any of this and Doom has tragically been awfully adapted into cinema, but with Feige having him I expect that to change. I foresee the MCU treating him as a very big villain in the same way he is in comics, and able to show up in various movies, not just the Fantastic Four's.
  23. man o man great looking books! These are way out of my price range, can I ask how much you got for?