RonS2112

This really strikes me as an attempt to paint CGC as a victim here, while simultaneously shifting the onus of protection onto the customer. Makes my decision to let my susbsription lapse seem even more sound. To describe themselves as "a target" is shameful -- to be clear, their customers were the targets. CGC was an enabler, as a result of their shoddy quality control.

Well, yeah.....and at the risk of stating the obvious, parsing the difference between a 9.6 and a 9.8 should be a pretty exact science and therefore should ALWAYS have notes associated.

Lots of assumptions here. I'd think it's more likely that IF a regrade is appropriate, and IF that regrade results in a difference then CGC will reimburse the difference. No one is getting a free book.

1. Invest some money in a few IH 181's and ASM 300's, making sure to buy low. 2. Sell high. 3. Go to Step 1.

Being smart? If there’s anything like a sure bet in making money in this hobby, these two books are it.

Go to a local con and watch the total lack of movement of slabbed modern books. What you describe is already happening.

I know this comment is intended as tongue-in-cheek, but offering a free pedigree label for these books would be a really cheap, quick way for CGC to create value which might help compensate the owners of these affected books.

The amount of modern cr*p encased in slabs these days would indicate that this number is pretty low indeed.

Why would you think it would/should be HARD for anyone who had precise knowledge of the technique for opening a slab? I mean, it's not like CGC employees doing reholdering want to use a hammer to get a book out of a slab. THere was ALWAYS going to be an easy way to get a book out that presented low risk to the book itself. And if you think about it, it took YEARS for one technique to be made public. Like it or not, this sort of thing is often times the cost of doing business on a large scale.

And you must have fallen asleep when the pictures were shown of a Hulk 181 with a Blue 9.0 label that nonetheless looked like it had been run over by a car a few times.

I've read all 201 pages so far. Anyone looking at the ASM 252 that started all this -- including the CGC worker who did the re-slabbing -- should/could have taken one look at the book attached to that 9.8 and realized something was up. And the vast majority did not notice anything until it was pointed out to them. To the tune of "hundreds of books." But now, EVERYONE is pro, and has some slam to make on the quality of the slabs......85 million units later.

If it does, it's only because this one comes on the heels of a singulary pronounced era of greed and laziness in this hobby. And it's part of a perfect storm of the MCU imploding and creators fighting with each other over how comics are written. If you've got money to spend on comic books, the next few years are going to be a good time.

You gotta love snarky comments like this. How many of you drank the Koolaid and bought into the idea that your comics were slabbed, sealed and impervious to age for all eternity, only to freak out when your own unrealistic expectations have proven unfounded? The golden rule of "buy the book, not the grade" is there for a reason, but it seems many of you forgot that.

I perfectly get it. Read your own words -- if it's not within CGCs domain, it CERTAINLY isn't within yours. No one owes you a thing. And here's a bit of news. If it is "only" six figures, then there's a good chance that the FBI won't waste the time to prosecute this; it simply isn't worth the time it would take.

You don't need to look at hundreds of comic scans to understand what a company legally owes you as a customer. Your "demands" sound very shrill and totally unreasonable.

Yeesh.....such hyperbole. CGC has indicated an intent to make this situation right. Let's give them a chance to do that. They don't owe you anything else. If it bugs you that much, learn how to grade your own books, start going to your local cons, and buy raw. Doesn't get much simpler than that.

The POINT is that in a five minute video, he shows how easy it is to crack a slab leaving virtually no trace. Now imagine someone who's gotten good at it. I mean, do you think that CGC uses a hammer to crack every book they're going to re-slab? The scammer either learned how CGC re-opens their own slabs or was smart enough to figure it out on his own. And ImmacualteComics is a chemist by trade, so this should have been right up his alley. And apparently, it was.

You are correct. But I think some here should get used to the idea that it is possible (in fact likely) that the scammer’s personal info will not be shared with us.

Yes, but you can’t ignore the apathy and greed on the part of a large segment of the consumer base, which also fueled this scam.

I'd not keep my expectations too high. They will likely say something along the lines of, "we're investigationg this, we remain committed to high quality, etc" without providing much in the way of details. Regardless of the impact this may have on this board and an insular Youtube community, I'd guess that most people who own/sell/buy slabs don't know or care about this scam. In the end, people who like slabs aren't going to stop deling with them because of this.

A little perspective, please. I used to work on an Air Force Combat operations crew. THAT was a job that required working on Christmas. Comic slabbing is decidedly NOT.

Sticky strikes me as a good guy, but yeah -- he seems to have a weird way of deciding what side of an issue he's going to come down on.

You know, equating the demise of CGC with "watching the world burn" is the kind of thinking that fostered an environment in which this scam was a lucrative venture in the first place. There are PLENTY of us who exist quite happily within this hobby without needing a single slab in our collections.

You can’t blame this scam for the census being . Cracking, pressing and resubbing is a way of life for some speculators and that practice ruined the census a long time ago.