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so what did you pay? i have a feeling the seller had an idea of what he had.. so it must not have been cheap. yes.. i am impolite enough to ask in public.

i think the later Visions comics from the Atlanta Fantasy Fair are hard to find. I am still missing #8 to this day and I have looked for years now. Thank fully I managed to find 7 and 9 on ebay but had to fight to own them.

I always admired his artwork and stories but he never was a must have for me. odd that. sort of like love and rockets to be honest. i always admired it but never really got into it. dave stevens was like that to me. he does represent to me the good times in comic collecting though. the early 1980s time frame so just for that he gets much love.

there is really not much to say about your rant. there is no wrong way to collect. it just makes me dislike cgc to be honest. they have changed the hobby in a way that just does not work for me. it is less and less about the comic and more and more about a little label in a plastic slab. you just sort of dissed a 9.6 compared to a 9.8. i find that so hard to comprehend. a totally little minor difference (if there is even one) and somehow it is not as nice as the next minor fractional grade up. they are both near perfect. if cracked out there is a slight chance either of them could come back a different grade. sigh. there is no wrong way to collect anything but i think the koolaid was readily accepted by quite a few collectors and cgc was counting on that. they know there is a segment of the market that just eats it up. hook line and sinker. i was pleased as punch just to get to read the stories. it is a bonus that most of the turtle books are still sitting raw and unbagged in a desk drawer at my mom's house for the last 20 some years. Maybe one day i will read them again without having to pay up for the second time. end of my rant.

my goodness.. it is amazing how many of these i have read based on looking at the covers. seems no one wanted them during the 1980-1990s and i could buy them for a song.. even given to me back then. i wonder if anything has changed on the low, mid, and high end? did cgc make these titles go crazy too? i still have hundreds of pages to look at yet!

only a 3rd print for me also. i just was not paying attention to the title when it first came out. sigh! my budget did not fit so something had to suffer. Figures it was a now expensive book.

It's the First appearance of Tim Vigil's Faust. If not for that I would not even bother looking for it. ah, that explains everything. i had no idea Faust was in that book.

what is special about the book besides a low print run? do people want to pay up for the Vigil artwork and/or is the story extra special?

Was GRIPS the first comic at the time pushing the violence envelope? I don't think so. Maybe the most popular one to do it though. There was an endless supply of homebrew comics at the time and the more obscure they got, the more violent and smutty they got. I think Silverwolf came around towards the end of the B&W boom, around 86 or later. They say the "boom" started after TMNT #1 hit the stands, but there were plenty of B&W indies out at that time and before, just not fetching crazy prices. The earliest I can recall off hand is the flaming carrot in Visions #1. The Carrot would be running around with pistols in hand just blasting people on a whim. This would be 1978. But I am sure there are some indy zines or what not that are even earlier as the above poster mentioned. Grips was very late to the game but rather graphic to say the least.

I clearly remember Grips. I think I had a 1-3. As for the story I only have vague recollections but I do recall rereading it a few times. Just seeing a cover helps it all come back to me. It was definitely better then a lot of other stuff I bought at the time as I rarely reread . But I am afraid I would never seek it out again. My tastes have changed. Cool post though!