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Great episode, Felix. I always enjoy hearing stories from the old timers in this hobby. The discovery of Hulk 181 is exciting. Can't wait to get more details for that.

Maybe what you offered to the dealer was not worth $35,000 to him. It's not like you offered $35,000 cash for an item he priced at $50,000. Did the friends that you consulted value your stuff at a solid $35,000?

You and Joe should have left the pencils the way you found them.

Kirby, Ditko, Romita, Buscema

Is Egyptian Queen considered Frazetta's best work? How does the Egyptian Queen compare to Conan and Death Dealer paintings?

Fantastic video! Glen's descriptions for the Kirby pages are terrific.

Why wouldn't they? They are getting money from both the seller and the high bidder. It is not just about money, Ankur. There might be ethical or legal considerations as well.

Very entertaining segment. Albert's stories are great.

The second link has ASM #98 ranked number six. 1. ASM 50 2. ASM 39 3. ASM 33 4. ASM 129 5. ASM 43 Vol 2 6. ASM 98 Hard to argue with any of these, aside from ASM #43 Vol 2 by John Romita Jr. It is all subjective, but I would say ASM 98 is a better looking cover than the remaining 14 on the list.

That is really high for an almost all paste-up cover.

Agreed. Except I would only want to own pages that had been touched by Frank Miller. As a fan of the Daredevil series and a collector of Frank Miller art, I would love to find the 8 x11 thumbnail layouts for DD 179 and 181.

It would make a world of difference to me if Miller did the layouts for the Wolverine LS on a separate piece of typing paper, like he did with the latter part of his Daredevil run. However, Joe Rubenstein confirmed that Miller did loose breakdowns on the bristol board. Since Miller did loose pencil breakdowns on the bristol board, I am comfortable with Miller's involvement with the original art from this series. As far as the Daredevil series, it sounds like I am in the minority, but it is important to me whether Miller touched the boards. Previously I thought the cutoff was #185, and I heavily discounted the issues after #185. Now we have Klaus Janson saying that Miller started doing layouts on separate pieces of paper for issue #179. These are some of the most important issues from the run, but all things being equal, I would much rather have a page that Miller had some contact with, rather than one that is all-Klaus. That said, I agree with consensus that DD 181 is such an important book that the value of pages form this issue is not likely to be adversely affected by the fact that he did breakdowns on a separate pieces of paper.

10x mark up does sound crazy, but I am more concerned about Cool Lines' misrepresentations about alterations.

How did they create the borders?

There is nothing wrong with that. If you are not a fan of Marvel superheroes, or Wolverine in particular, I can understand why you have little appreciation for the first appearance of Wolverine. Personally, I rank nostalgia and historical context above aesthetics. Almost every piece in my collection is from a comicbook in which I have fond memories of reading and collecting.

Mike Burkey would be a good person to ask on these. Isn't Mike selling A-level twice up Romita ASM pages for $60-75K? Of course, this does not include the special pages, like the introduction for MJ, which are presumably more.

A lot would depend on when the Frank Miller interview for Comic Feature #25 actually occurred. I imagine Miller was interviewed at least a few months before publication.

Yes, that is more accurate. Klaus penciled, inked, and colored the page, while Miller never actually touched the art board. Potential buyers would never know that by reading the auction description only.

The Daredevil #181 title splash credits "Story & Art" to Miller and "Finished Art & Colors" to Janson. http://comics.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7063&lotNo=92224 If what Klaus Janson is saying above is true, then Daredevil #181 is one of the issues that Frank Miller created layouts on smaller 8 1/2 x 11 pieces of paper. I find it very interesting that all original art for DD #181 was penciled by Janson only, and Miller never actually touched the art boards for this important issue.

Avoid posting on CAF?

The Wolverine miniseries was done with looser pencils but directly on boards. Someone here had scans of some of the pencils before they were inked by Rubenstein.

This interview in Back magazine is what I always reference as well. The issues from #173 to 184 I still consider to be Frank Miller original art, since he actually loosely penciled the layouts onto the boards. Starting with DD #185 Miller no longer penciled on board, but rather he only did preliminary layouts on separate smaller pieces of paper. So if a dealer tried to sell me a page from DD #185, I would value that page as a Klaus Janson only page.

Is this true for the covers as well?

Here is an old thread with with side by side comparisons of some original Miller pencils compared with Janson inks. The finished inked pages look very faithful to the original pencils to me. These are from Daredevil #172 where Janson inked directly over Miller pencils on board. http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=160754&Number=4604151#Post4604151

Ferran, What do pencil traces prove? That is not inconsistent with what Klaus said. Klaus said he redrew it or traced it (presumably with pencil) and then he inked it.