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  1. Morrow was one of the ones I was thinking too. Val Mayerik is another. Elias, many of the EC artists, including Wally Wood. In some cases it's not to say that the inflation of OA in the last 10 years hasn't raised the price of all art in general, but certainly some have moved by a much smaller percentage. I'd say in general it can be attributed to the the generation effect of GA and Pre-code and strip art being the staple of older boomers and not late boomers, Gen X, or millennials. Sure, the creme of the crop of the classics like Raymond, Frazetta, Williamson will always be respected, but other guys like Russ Manning? Not so much. The nostalgia is waning for Tarzan, Westerns, War, Funny Animals, - it's all super heroes now.
  2. I thought this might have been part of a card group shot, or the back of a card image as part of the character bio. I know I've seen this before, but I also know I've seen this question about where this specific piece was used before in the last 10 years. Maybe even here on CGC. Were there any Marvel Handbooks from this era? This really screams card art to me though, Lim did a lot of it.
  3. this sounds to me like Diamond is shifting more towards being a wholesaler then, and offloading some of the distribution to the likes of DCBS. Maybe that works out for both in the end. Diamond could do less business, with less customers, and still be a viable business. The aggregate volume of the indy/small press business makes sense for Diamond to maintain without the hassle of soliciting to every comic shop to sell 2 copies of RabidRabbit #6 and Tales of Tofu Summer Special.
  4. As a non-shop owner I've been reading this thread with keen interest as I have friends that are shop owners or otherwise very knowledge of the retail comic industry and it seems clear to me that the old business model is about to undergo the last mile of disruption that was already 10 years in the making. I'm just not sure which way it's going, or if there are 2 different countervailing forces here, but nothing seems very certain one way or the other from the outside looking in. When I see @MrBedrock on one side of the crystal ball & @lighthouse & @FlyingDonut on the other and I know them personally to all be very smart individuals I have to just throw my hands up in confusion. On one side TJ &U Dan are saying floppies are dead, and DC is phasing it out in favor of all digital and trades. Richard is of the opposite opinion, that digital distribution just isn't as profitable as print. How can both be right? (or wrong) Maybe we are not asking the right question. Looking to Netflix, and Apple Music, the think the real question is what is the future of retail versus subscription services? Much of the conversation from the LCS' here has been how little shelf space is devoted to retail for DC comics, and most only bother to fill DC comics for subs. If that has been the case pre-Covid, DC comics parent company may already have been trying to shift away from a retail/distribution model in their 5 year plan. That seems more in keeping with AT&T. They don't want customers, they want SUBSCRIBERS to reliably spend the same amount of money every month, electronically billed & paid, so they don't even think about it. Retail is effort, and conscious micro-decisions on a weekly or monthly basis by both retailer and customer on what to order, what to market, and what to buy. Imagine as an LCS what the business model would be if your customers paid in full automatically, in advance for the service of being provided comics, just like Apple Music, or Spotify, or Netflix and not having to wait a month for the deadbeat sub to pick up 4 weeks of books, or maybe even ghost? If there was a digital sub, and a print sub, or a combination of the 2 and retail LCS was really just a browse and pick-up point that would shake up the traditional model. Obviously the LCS has the least to gain and the most to lose in this situation, as they could be cut out of the equation entirely. If I paid 30 bucks a month to get 12 digital titles and 8 floppies. some business entity would be very happy to have that reliable revenue. I'm just not sure who that business entity is and how that works for the LCS, distribution, DC etc. AT&T's business model could be very different than Disney's for their subsidiaries as they duke it out in the content subscriber space. I think that is where we see LCS and distribution being very vulnerable to disruption and not necessarily in a positive way if Marvel and DC are pulling in opposite directions. Print for Marvel may be profitable, like Richard has said, but floppies for DC may not be like TJ and Dan have said. Both could be right, but that's not predictable, and that uncertainty is usually not good for any business.
  5. I don't know either of you, and have never dealt with either of you in any capacity- tone is difficult to discern in email and PMs but based solely on what has been posted here, the seller is in the right and you have a chip on your shoulders and are overly sensitive and it pretty much bleeds thru just about every post. Passive aggressive is a good description. Had this been an in-person or phone conversation and not something hanging in the air of PM you wouldn't be stewing about or over-thinking it. It probably never would have happened at all.
  6. this. I've seen, and participated in the construction and creation of shadow box assemblages like this from a noted artist and the materials used can be highly volatile. Often they used a fixative and just shellac the bejeezus out of it. One involved a tiny bowl with actual cornflakes. That didn't hold up so well. They will collect dust like no other, and I'd suggest encasing it in a preferably airtight frame similar to what I've seen in some museums for mixed media art. You don't want to inadvertently cause damage trying to dust it with a feather duster or compressed air.
  7. the market got as low as 800 in 1932, that was the true bottom. That's pretty damn close to zero. if your best argument is a hypothetical 10K investment for 91 years I can't help you. have your great-grandkids post what they made off your comics in 2111. But the next 10-15 years? You mean like it was 1929 - 1944? It took until 1960 to recover it's previous peak. And you are assuming a complete apples to apples comparison to the stock market. Collectibles come and go, tastes, change, nostalgia fades, and the bull market for super hero comics only had about another decade or so of runway before it would demographically run out of gas.
  8. some don't have the luxury of patience - or the money. Some will simply be dissuaded from participating (CPR). Both scenarios affect prices. You can certainly gamble that it's a temporary dip, and will swing back up.......later. But if you and others like you that are still buying start to get cold feet, and some will- well then this bull market it dead too. It always happens.....eventually. It's a self fulfilling prophecy either way. The effects of the last pandemic were largely masked by WW1 and markets were much less interconnected.
  9. the point I was trying to make in the post above (written from my phone at 3am, so apologies if not completely coherent) is that it's one thing to judge a person's character and intent solely from their words and the words said about them on a message board versus "real life." You will, at best get a two-dimensional impression of a person, an event, a disagreement likely very skewed in one direction or another. I would also caution the boards to not confuse caricature with character. Scouring 128 pages of Probation Discussion and hammering the new boards utterly crappy search capabilities is a futile exercise. It's both good and bad that a person cannot escape their past (whether they are at fault or not) in the digital age - the prevalence of cancel culture is well documented. 12 years in the digital realm is eons, I think @lighthouse has earned the benefit of the doubt at the very least. There are much more famous boardies that have flamed out, tried to sneak back in under new identities, including selling, and generally have been true trolls. Some of them persist to this day always on the verge of a strike and are why the ignore feature exists. A once in a century global pandemic is as good a time as any to hit the reset button. If lighthouse were to slip up again, the fallout would be epic - swift and merciless and so damaging to his reputation it would have a lasting impact on him, because this is his business, not a hobby or secondary retirement income. Right now he's more focused on securing loans via the stimulus package to use for his employees payroll. Running him through the ringer over a $30 transaction he made restitution on12 years ago is straining gnats and swallowing camels.
  10. My friendship with @lighthouse predates the CGC boards, as does @bubbagump,I was also friends with his Ex as we all went to college together - I did indeed buy out his inventory back then. That was 12 years ago. however- in the last couple of years, after a full decade of little interaction and zero transactions ( he had effectively quit comics pretty much entirely, focusing on career and personal stuff) he made it known to me that he was looking to open another store. I had a significant amount of inventory that was better suited for a store and I sold it to him - he paid me in cash my asking price in part because it was his way of acknowledging the times I had helped him out in the past. That made an impression upon me. A year later he offered a rare, expensive, one of a kind item to me at a fair price and mailed it to me promptly and securely. I know him better than most everyone on this message board with the exception of Rick. I know lighthouse’s quirks and foibles first hand, and I never had any illusions about them. He’s an exceptionally bright guy, top 10 I have known, but I think he would be the first to agree that his emotional intelligence took an extra 20 years to catch up. But it has caught up, and he’s trying to make up for lost time, and past mistakes as well. There’s no margin for error here and no time to be wasted except with the past. To deny him that chance now says more about the character of the boards than it does him. He should be removed from the probation list.
  11. This, only it will be more like a 30% long term reduction in the number of young speculators, flippers and boomers that will not have the cash to participate. This will also kill the crack and press trade, as the margins will be too compressed, and re-subs will tank. You won't see the same book sold 3 times in a year from ebay to clink, to HA. 10 million Americans (so far) are newly unemployed. We will have 15% unemployment and under-employment for a significant time. The psychological damage of a global shutdown will dramatically alter people's perception of "value" - collectibles of all stripes will be reexamined, and I think just maybe slabbed books in particular, in their sterile, inaccessible little clear coffins will suffer. Words and pictures will still have "value" to the reader, but the fetish of owning the actual book will be secondary. Those who need cash will sell if they can recoup at least 50% of their cost basis, because it's a sunk cost, and those books will likely not go up so holding them risks them actually going down. Better to sell a GPA $1000 book for $500 when you have $650 in it than to risk waiting for 3 months, and selling the same book that is now a $500 GPA book for $250 and taking a $400 hit. It's just math.
  12. Commuting was ever a complete waste of time for both employer and employee- people in NY and elsewhere that depend on mass transit have some measure of time to themselves they can be at least personally productive, working, reading, etc, but in the south and west where it's all highways and cars- it's a totally non-productive, except for more pollution. People that move out to the suburbs to get away from the dense urban areas always have to trade off the time they waste commuting in- this pandemic will have many people and industries re-thinking what's "normal" and productive going forward.
  13. I second that. The 2 hours or so spent getting ready for work, going to work, getting ready to go home, run an errand on the way to or from home have been transformed into 2-3 hours that I just work. Also, I have back to back zoom meetings- no longer have to consider location and travel between meetings. I'm exhausted. But I'm thankful to still have work, many others around me do not. on the topic of MCS- Buddy and his wife need to be isolated away from everyone. He's the heart and soul of MCS, and he's no spring chicken.