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Unca Ben

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  1. I was born in '56. The first ASM I bought off the stands was #24, so I was 8 in early '65. I also bought Avengers #15 that same month and I already had a couple earlier Marvel books. I really liked the stories and writing compared to the DC's I had (Superman, Flash, Atom, GL, Detective etc.). The dialogue was better in Marvel books. Not a "Great Scott", *CHOKE*, or a *GROAN* among them. I did enjoy the DC WAR books, however. While Lois Lane was still trying to trap Superman into marriage much less figure out his secret identity (and ending up over Superman's knee getting a spanking), Captain America was engaged in a dramatic fight to the death with Zemo to avenge Bucky's death. While the JLA (or JSA actually) was fighting Johnny Thunder's magical Thunderbolt, "say you", the FF were dealing with the betrayal of an emotionally damaged Ben Grimm in the thrall of the Wizard and the evil FF, the Frightful Four. Way more interesting stories and characterization, for me. When reading JLA, the tail of the word balloons would often be needed to indicate who said what. Batman's, Superman's, Green Lantern's, etc., vocabulary was interchangeable. I would never confuse Reed Richard's dialogue with Ben Grimm's or the Torch's. No word balloon tail needed.
  2. And see, I liked the problems pestering Peter in ASM. Aunt May's health, trouble paying the bills, Flash, JJJ, Betty Brant's intense dislike of Spider-Man, guilt over Uncle Ben (the last of which I believe Ditko addressed in the Master Planner trilogy and would have had that particular monkey off Peter's back had Ditko continued the series). In fact when I re-read the Ditko/Romita run, on occasion I find myself skipping thru the battle scenes and focusing more on the stuff about Peter's private life. I find it fascinating. Always did.
  3. That would have been another one of my points if I weren't aiming for brevity
  4. … and these are not my words, not my spin on what went on back then. These words are directly from Stan and Steve with no interpretation necessary from me, to make some imagined point. (You know, make a conclusion and only search for the evidence that may be interpreted to bolster that opinion.)
  5. "We try to make our heroes not all good and our villains not all bad." Now let's compare this to Ditko's Mr. A , who first appeared in 1967. Sometimes the answer to a question is right in front of us. (re: what were the conflicts between Ditko and Stan when Ditko left Marvel) "That fool thinks there is a middle of the road between good and evil, that he can have the advantages of both sides..." In another of Ditko's essays he mentions that "a hero cannot be neurotic." … so here we have the two guys responsible for what is becoming one of the most popular super heroes, and their ideas of good and bad and of the characteristics of a hero could not be further apart. -just a thought.
  6. That would be the second poster. The one that had an existing image that was "updated" like the other 7 MMMS posters. It was about 3 feet tall, Half-size of the door poster, but I have seen a 6-foot door poster version of this. I've attributed these reworked posters to Marie Severin. Nice find! I do still have the Hulk poster. This poster also had a couple of different printings. Mine. The original. I believe this was printed by itself, before the MMMs set. (that's a guess) In the detail pic, Notice the copyright on lower right corner (and the sticker from the place in New Orleans where I bought it) Then there's the dayglo version: Then there's another later printing by Personality posters. Different copyright typeset than mine.
  7. That. is. gorgeous. I think I'm going to cry … Side note: A pretty nice example of this poster is in an upcoming Heritage auction. https://comics.ha.com/itm/memorabilia/poster/spider-man-door-poster-marvel-1966-/p/122413-44001.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
  8. I'm jealous of your brother. I got this poster in third grade and it resided on my bedroom wall until I moved out and then it graced my first couple bachelor pads until it found its way - creased and somewhat torn - rolled up in my closet. But I stared at his thing in admiration every day for over 15 years so it was easy for me to recognize the pin up as the Spidey poster as soon as I saw it in this thread. I recall bringing this poster to show and tell in 3rd grade. It is truly iconic of the innovations by Marvel Comics at the time. In 1965, who would have thought of a (relatively) slightly-known but ever growing-in-popularity Super Hero 6-foot wall poster? And it's unique in its own way - the thick paper stock and almost chalky thick inks that brought a special "smell" to the poster when it was new- way different than other posters. If you've been around one in person you know what I mean. It truly cemented my interest in Marvel Comics - I had been regularly reading them for 5-6 months as best I could (no store nearby that I could patronize on my own - I had to buy my comics when accompanying my parents shopping). But to be introduced to Marvel during those months with Spidey and JJJ's robot and Mysterio and the Crime Master and the Green Goblin, and FF fighting the evil FF with the Thing's betrayal and Reed and Sue's Wedding and the intro of the Inhumans, while the X-Men were fighting the Juggernaut for the first time then the Sentinels, and Thor up against the Destroyer and then Absorbing Man, and The Avengers and the Swordsman, and Iron Man vs Titanium Man, and Capt. America and the Red Skull, and the Sub-Mariner on his quest, and S.H.I.E.L.D. … Man, what a time to really enter comics. And this Spidey poster symbolizes that for me. So I'm a bit biased. (which means I should fit in rather well around here).
  9. Yeah. His drawing style on Spider-Man was much different from ish 3 to issue 28 or 30 ( or thereabouts when this poster was first mentioned as a "mystery mailing tube" on the Bullpen Bulletins page).
  10. ...even the left leg looks to be the exact same drawing just re-positioned. same as the right forearm.
  11. oh, and i think that the pin up is awesome among the best ditko spideys that i've seen. i would give my left nut to own this.
  12. This. I think this pinup is the original drawing that ended up being the 6 foot poster. Either Ditko himself reworked the drawing or it was done in production. Ditko could have light boxed the original and made the adjustments, or a photostat could have been cut and pasted to achieve the final composition. I submit that they are too similar to be coincidence. If the pinup is rotated about 20-some degrees to the left and a vertical line bisects the figure we can make some observations on both compositions. Ignore the left leg and the right arm just for a moment. The line bisects the face the same. it brushed up against the tips of the legs of the chest spider-symbol the same. it goes thru just left of the crotch the same. The space between the line and the left thumb is the same. the space between the line and the right foot is the same. Think "negative space". The two negative spaces created by the bisecting line in the lower half of the figure are exactly the same. The webbing thru the face, torso, belt, left arm, right boot are exact. Muscles in the chest left arm and right leg are the same. The right underarm spotted black could have been whited out or ignored on the new light boxed drawing. Once again, the compositions and details are just too similar to be coincidence so I submit this is the original drawing (or the "original" original drawing) for the famous 6 foot pinup. If my observations prove to be correct and I were the seller, I'd really want this stuff to be mentioned. Has anyone ever seen the drawing for the 6 foot pin up? I'd be willing to bet that it is either: a cut and pasted Photostatted version of this pin-up, or a second drawing that was light boxed from the first.
  13. Whoa there, hoss. I started this as a fun thread, while defending Stan from the outrage journalism propaganda that gets tossed around. It's not that serious (hence the What If: scenario). Folks sure like any excuse to insult around here. Speaking of children that's not very adult.
  14. dinner time and then a movie, it's been a slice, prince namor. take care.
  15. Nope. i didn't say that stan reached the masses thru pop culture because the villiage voice said so. that would be an attempt at appealing to authority. and i didn't put the village voice as having a better (more of an authority - get it?) opinion than say, the eye magazine or college campus newsletters (the other examples i listed).