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Another deep GA, Timely, PCH, Westerns, some early GA coverless collection goes for slabbing then to CC auction:- 110 replies
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Slowly culling the herd. Starting off with my graded books and may lean into the raw stuff. As a family heirloom, I bought a watch for my daughter to hand down when she is of age. I was just blessed and welcomed a son into the world and am doing it again. As usual first wins the prize! Will respond to reasonable offers via PM, I'll take it trumps that (especially with toddler and working). No HOS'ers Payment: Paypal only, (Cash or EMT acceptable and preferred for Canada only), payment due within 3 days of purchase Shipping: USPS Priority Shipping is $40 per graded book. Add $12 for every book on top for max of 5. Anything above and beyond please let me figure shipping out. Pricing is for anywhere in Canada or USA Returns: I am not accepting returns as I am in Canada and most of my sales are in the US. But as always, I will work with you on and if anything troubling comes up as I look to keep relationships healthy and happy. -
Hi, I recently purchased a 7.0 cgc copy of Weird Science #11 that has a Comic Connect sticker attributing it to the Nicolas Cage's personal collection. I don't believe it comes with any additional paper work other than the sticker. It's in an older cgc slab which doesn't have the nicolas cage attribution on it. If I send this into cgc for a new slab, what are the odds that they'll give me the 'From the Collection of Nicolas Cage" attribution. Do i need to include any documents (maybe photocopy of the comic connect sticker)? Is there any shot I can reach out to Comic Connect to see if they have additional records/provenance supporting that it's from cage collection? Edit: here’s the previous comic connect sale: https://www.comicconnect.com/item/461738#description?tzf=1 Anyone have experience with CGC honoring (or not) comic connect’s pedigree attribution? Thanks for the help! Alec
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I did not see a topic on this. Matt Nelson, Harley Yee, and estate family members chat about this incredibly deep estate collection full of golden age keys, multiple copies of silver age and bronze age keys, semi-keys in 2024 documentary 'Selling Superman.' CGC article link here. More info: https://www.sellingsuperman.com/
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TLDR: CGC has become the defacto authority on recognizing Pedigrees; unfortunately, they have also been poor stewards of that responsibility. Bias: I own 500+ “modern” comic books from the Savannah Pedigree and another 50+ from the Twin Cities, Fantucchio, and a couple Pedigrees not CGC recognized that are considered “modern”. Also, for reference, this is a post I made almost ten years ago about hoping to get my X-Men run recognized. Since its inception in 2000 CGC has been a driving force in the comic book world and outside of the recent (and very), blatant money focused variety of encapsulation shenanigans they have been an overall positive influence, with the major exception being that of a refusal to acknowledge all of the books in pedigrees. This single action has had devastating results and harmed an entire generation of collectors for no other reason than ideological gatekeeping by boomers who refuse to come to terms with the circumstance that time itself drives forward despite their best efforts to prevent it. Prior to CGC, collectors of Pedigrees have always had the same gatekeeping conversations…in the 60’s and 70’s many believed only books from the golden age should be acknowledged since Marvel books from the 60’s are not really keys. In the 80’s and 90’s Silver age finally gained wide acceptance with few detractors left to man the purity gates. Obviously in the 2010’s only mid-bronze was begrudgingly viewed as acceptable (a decision solely enforced by CGC), but never “moderns”… NEVER! WE MUST MAINTAIN THE DIGNITATY AND PURENESS OF COMICDOM, SHUN THE NEWBIES AND THE BOOKS THEY GREW UP WITH, SHUN THEM! AFTER ALL, 1973 WAS JUST FIVE YEARS AGO (circa; 2010s cigar smoking mustache twirling CGC suits). In 2011, the Savannah Pedigree was acknowledged and CGC immediately set precedent that any post 1985 book would not be included. No official statement was ever given as to why, but when I asked at the booths during multiple conventions, I was told that: “Comic books printed during the modern time frame are just too new to be considered part of any pedigree, in some cases millions of copies were produced, and due to direct marketing most of these examples were never purchased from a newsstand. These factors do not fall In line with what a pedigree should represent” -This is from memory of multiple conversations had 10+ years ago This was also partially acknowledged in a 2012 forum post from ASK CGC: The original thread this was pulled from can be found here: https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/247790-pedigree-noted-on-moderns The Savannah Pedigree encompassed over 40 thousand books and large portions of them were from 1986-2010. These modern examples where from both the newsstand and direct editions with many deep runs having multiple copies. Due to the size of this collection HA did not issue the large format COA for every book and stopped attempting to encapsulate moderns after the first batch did not receive the designation. I know of many examples were the HA receipt/COA was lost and entire runs of modern Savannah books could no longer be authenticated (the entire run of Nomad, last half of Namor, most of Silver Surfer, and some New Warriors and Quasar, all low value direct editions from the 90s). I am hopeful that these could still appear on the market someday with their authentication. This mindset would also continue to destroy the moderns in the Twin Cities Pedigree sold by HA; but slightly change for the Fantucchio Pedigree. In the thread referenced above an updated post in 2017 provided proof that what was then viewed as “keys” were allowed to be slabbed under the pedigree designation. The example presented was Batman TAS #12. Unfortunately what is viewed as a “key” changes with popularity and the New X-Men #133 (1st app of Dust; a now $350 book) from Fantucchio was not encapsulated and lost during a raw bundle sale (I was out bid on this lot). So why bring up this meandering rant now? I never liked the look of pedigree labels (mainly colors) and was trying to break the online submission form to allow a custom label and select the pedigree option at the same time. To do this I was using a run of bronze X-Men when I found out I could now select the pedigree option for all Modern books (previous I could not do this). I created a thread about my shenanigans trying to get some clarity in ASK CGC here: https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/517290-pedigree-designation While some specific questions were answered, ala the X-Men #1 (1991) could receive a pedigree designation they were purposefully vague when I asked about all moderns. After some deliberation, I decided to bite the bullet and make a very selected submission of books drawing only from newsstand versions with the HA large COA from the Savannah Pedigree. If this is successful then I will make another submission of direct edition books with the HA receipt or COA, Comiclink receipt (for Fantucchio), HA receipt or COA for Twin Cities, and finally various already encapsulated books from 2011 to today (many custom label books I had reslabbed) with the Savannah HA COA. My overall hope is twofold: That this will shine a brighter light on modern books that were part of pedigrees but denied the designation by CGC therefore giving collectors that grew up with these books a chance to own something that might have been out of reach from their favorite titles. These books will be preserved as part of their rightful pedigree and not lost to time as so many have already. So what is the downside? I was lucky enough to receive a copy of books (that I had asked about) in the Savannah Pedigree and my fear is this: CGC will still only recognize what they deem as “keys” regardless of newsstand/direct edition. CGC will only recognize modern newsstand copies CGC will only recognize direct edition copies if they are “keys” CGC doesn’t have an actual stance and the grader that day will make a very subjective judgement based on their personal feelings of what they believe should be “allowed” in a pedigree. Using X-Men (1991) as an example, there are multiple copies of each book until #24, and then it is sporadic until all single copies at #52 going forward. There are both newsstand copies and direct edition copies up until at least #16 (that is the last newsstand copy I have); #30 has two copies listed and one of them is a newsstand as it was encapsulated then auctioned on ebay in 2011 with a COA. Ghost Rider (1990) has the same pattern though thins out much sooner to single copies. Darkhawk is an outlier as it has only direct edition copies of every issue except two additional newsstand copies for issues #13 and #14 (I own these). Sleepwalker only has direct editions even though it is from the same time period. Multiple books post 1993 have two copies of issue #1, an example of this is Ghost Rider 2099 (1994) which has a second copy of #1 that is a newsstand, with the entire run in direct editions. I have been told there is a large cache of DC newsstands from the early 2000s when Harley Quinn received her own series but I have never seen them in person. I believe outside of increasingly rare second copies of first issues, most of the newsstand copies stopped being collected in mid-1994, as the GR in question is the last newsstand that I have actually seen with a HA COA. In the interest of full transparency, I have submitted 13 books that have been cleaned and pressed, have the full HA COA, and are newsstand editions, which have the best chance of receiving a 9.8. These are all Marvel and from 1991-1992 (my next submission will be more DC focused if these all get the label). X-Men (1991) #1 X-Men (1991) #2 X-Men (1991) #3 X-Men (1991) #4 X-Men (1991) #5 X-Men (1991) #6 X-Men (1991) #7 X-Men (1991) #8 X-Men (1991) #9 X-Men (1991) #10 X-Men (1991) #11 Darkhawk #13 Ghost Rider #15
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Affordable GA Sci Fi slabs, some of my registry under copies, a pedigree and some high grade stuff But first.. The Rules: Whatever happens in marketplace, stays in marketplace. No wait, wrong rules, hold on… here they are: NO PL/HOS members. I also reserve the right to not sell to someone with justification. If you have outstanding payments past due to other members, don’t commit to buying my book, pay your bills! "I'll take it" in a thread will always supersede any active negotiations in PM or emails. In the case of a tie, time stamps and screen shots win. Payments: Paypal is perfectly acceptable. Purchases over $1,000, check/mo preferred. If you pay by check you get freebies. Checks must clear before shipping...usually 3 business days max! Payment plans available; please PM me to discuss Shipping: I ship USPS Priority mail M-W-F, so you will receive your books quickly. CGC books (up to 3) will be $15 to US, $40 to Canada. Refunds: There will be no dis-satisfaction based refunds since books are graded by a third party and I'm gonna provide a butt ton of pictures. If book is damaged/lost in shipping, we will work together. Book will be insured for value.- 35 replies
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I'm looking for more details behind Golden Age "Checking Copies", specifically confirmation about at which point during the process they might have been utilized. For those unaware of what these are: Checking copies are intended for the editors or "checkers" of ad copy, in order to make sure all ad copy & placement was correct. Checking copies would often have check marks in pencil on each ad throughout the book when confirming that they were correct by staff/advertisers. They would also often have a CHECKING COPY stamp on the cover indicating it as such, and are different from 'File Copies' as they were used in the actual process of manufacturing the issue while the others were just pulled to be filed away for reference after the fact. I have seen some people say they are amongst the first ever printed of that book (before it is even distributed so that editors and sponsors can sign off on it prior to the full print run being done), however others I have seen say these were sent out to sponsors later on during invoicing in order to show everything went as planned and payment should be made in full (so after the print job was completed, but not necessarily after distributon to shops). I'm sure the process and handling varied between publishers, but it would be interesting to learn more about them; how many exist per issue? were these pre-production prints used to catch any issue prior to doing a full print run, or copies pulled from the final print run for reference? Below: My favourite Checking Copy. Very clear stamp on cover (with a date and additional check written by it), and all interior ad pages have 1-3 check marks on them (clearly done by different people, as some are in pencil and others in ball point pen)
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I acquired my second Pedigree (Winnipeg) book from the homie @Pitboss
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I have a Holo Pokemon card with a swirl. A holo swirl does bump the price a bit. Should I indicate the swirl under Pedigree or Variant 2?
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Hey everyone, Listing 6 Golden Age Slabs tonight. All of these books come from a friend’s personal collection where most were purchased from HA years ago. My friend has decided that it’s time to let them go. Open to offers in PM. I have mainly purchased things from the boards and haven’t sold much here. I do have over 1000 positive feedback on eBay under Koo723. Rules: 1. No HoS or Probs 2. Shipping $14 USPS Priority or we can work out UPS pricing if you’re worried about current situations. US Shipping Only. 3. No Returns 4. PayPal only 5. No Trades 6. First wins over any PMs
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Hi, I recently won a comic at Heritage Auctions that Heritage states comes from the “Variety Store Collection.” Could this comic receive a pedigree label?
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No theme! I had a box of books sitting around and since I've got nothing better to do this week, I decided to list them on eBay Defenders 89 CGC 9.6 Winnipeg Pedigree Daredevil Appearance Marvel Mister Miracle #1 Variant Cover CGC 9.8 Tom King! Mister Miracle #1 CGC 9.8 Tom King Signature Series Mister Miracle #2 CGC 9.8 Tom King Mitch Gerads Signature Series Mister Miracle #5 CGC 9.8 Tom King Mitch Gerads Signature Series Donald Duck #67 CGC NM+ 9.6 1959 White Mountain Pedigree Dell Kill or be Killed #1 Ed Brubaker CGC 9.8 Power Man and Iron Fist #77 CGC 9.8 Daredevil appearance The Authority #2 CGC 9.6 Warren Ellis Bryan Hitch New X-Men #135 CGC 9.6 Grant Morrison The Wild Storm #1 Warren Ellis Jim Lee Sketch Retailer Incentive Variant CGC 9.6 The Wild Storm #1 Warren Ellis CGC 9.8 The Wild Storm #2 Warren Ellis CGC 9.6 Variant Cover The Wild Storm #3 Warren Ellis CGC 9.8 Jim Lee Variant Cover -
Hello all of you Lover Boys and Girls, for your viewing pleasure tonight I have Walked this Miss Patsy Walker #5 back out of the Comic Crypt. She seems to like and come out and say Hi! around this time of year. As many of you know me; this book may seem in far left field from my core collecting strength. There is something about it though that stays within my gravitational pull. I think it's the novelty of the "Injury to Eye" designation that Overstreet has tagged it over the years. And the obscurity of that with a title like this; which is usually reserved for Horror (my focus). The Rules: The Deal: in thread takes precedence over IM. Let's Talk if you have some trade bait (see "The Wild Card" below") The Payment: I will accept Money Order, Check (must clear), Paypal. Anything else check with me first but I am flexible. Payment expected within 2 weeks unless agreed upon directly with me. The Shipping: I will ship the books how ever you want. Just expect it to take additional time to send out if not USPS. I will charge the exact cost and let you pay for the amount of Insurance and Extras that you want. I can get it bubble wrapped well and in a Flat Rate Priority Box for $13.65 (insurance extra) The Return: No Returns on this book. It's CGC Graded; I will pack it bomb proof any issues outside of this would be grounds for Insurance Claims. Ask me questions if you have any. See my Kudos; I've been around for ages and have put together Epic Sales threads for Horror Books. The Wild Card: Trade Bait / Partial Trade / Funny Money considerations: Patsy Walker #1 (Roller Skate Pillow on Heini Black Cover) Frankenstein #1 (Prize Comics) Junior Comics #14 (Slippery Toad Peek-A-Boo) Junior Comics #16 (Roller Coaster Terror Perk) ( @Ricksneatstuff Crippen Copy? ) Schomburg Work Lee Elias Work (Love & PCH Comics) LB Cole Work (Mask #1, #2, Power Comics #1 & #3, and more) Comic Magazine Original Art (Warren, Marvel, Skywald, Eerie Pub) Mac Raboy Master Comics & Captain Marvel Jr (especially with Nazzzeees) My Kudos: The Book: Patsy Walker #5 by Timely from 1946 (yes that is 73 years old!). CGC Graded 9.4 with Off-White/White Pages. Only 4 graded total. None Higher. Next lowest 6.5. Pedigree Davis Crippen "D" Copy only rivaled by the Mile High Edgar Church 9.4 OW/W copy. Asking: Asking: $3,500 This copy does have improvable defects. Light non-breaking color spine stress. Not promoting this but stating what I have observed; could technically be a 9.6 I believe. Some Facts: Edgar Church's old copy sold for $3,585.00 on November 18th, 2017 on Heritage. Awesome Esoteric Archery cover with Overstreet labeling it as an "Injury to the Eye Cover" There is a spanking panel under those covers! Cover Artist Al Jaffee was the brain-child behind Mad Magazines folding page to image novelty! I freshly took the picture today. Would benefit from being in a new great visibility holder and getting the credit in the notes of "Injury to Eye" from Overstreet and "Spanking Panels" as noted by CGC. Love the "Americana" to this and the "Head full of Steam" exuded in the cover artwork. - bounty
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eBay link below. Bidding ends in 24.5 hours. Currently both of my listings are very low bids considering I don't use eBay that much but I figured I would try it out and see how it goes. Please message me for more info. I am more than happy to help out in any way I can. https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Top-Spot-Comics-CGC-7-0-Davis-Crippen-D-Copy-Pedigree-Classic-Hitler-App-Rare/264178534331 Regards, Niko
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Howdy, Couple slabs up for grabs. Open to offers or trades. Looking for a mid/high grade NM 98 to surprise my kid with after we go see the PG-13 Deadpool. Also always welcome low grade WWBN 32s or Surfer 4s. Rules: -Free US shipping, elsewhere at cost -PayPal within 48hrs of a deal -Returns are ok if shipped within 7 days of reciept, return shipping is on you -No probies or HOSers -First form of “take” in thread trumps other negotiations
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Time to move these along to a deserving home, the perfect Xmas gift for the discerning EC lover in your life (maybe its you!). these are mostly higher grade with at least one GFC and one Pedigree in the batch. Shipping is a flat rate $13 for any size order via USPS Priority mail, I will accept Paypal, for other forms of payment please check with me first. I am open to trades for Fox or Ace books that I need. No probates or HOSer's please!
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Crazy Canuck Sale Need to downsize! First wins! PMs welcome as always. Paypal only. Ship only to continental United States and Canada Shipping included in price No Returns
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Lamont is still going strong. Happy 90th to a legend!
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I just returned from Phoenix Arizona where I purchased a great Marvel Silver Age collection from the original owner. It is approximately 400 books and I am selling the bulk of them individually on eBay. Some of them are very high grade (Such as the X-Men #40 below which I am sending off to the CGC soon) Titles include Sgt. Fury, Thor, JIM, TOS, ASM, FF, Avengers, Iron Man just to name a few. You can tell these are all from the same owner and store as 80% of them have an identical store date stamp on the back cover - usually in the same place. (All purchased at his local pharmacy in Canada I was told) These are all uncleaned and unpressed and in the same raw condition they were purchased in. I'm posting scans of some of the nicer books below, some of which I will be auctioning later after they are graded - some of which are being sold now. Please check out the auctions and feel free to share! Here's an auction link https://www.ebay.com/sch/ivegotneatstuff/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1
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Marvel Family 4 on eBay. A nice 8.0 Crowley copy with a cool Witch cover. Reasonably priced BIN, offers accepted, free shipping. https://www.ebay.com/itm/MARVEL-FAMILY-4-8-0-Crowley-Pedigree-CGC-Classic-horror-cover-Shazam-Movie/332625431813?hash=item4d72054d05:g:kpsAAOSwZ-Ba2Czn -
• 1st unqualified or PM gets the book or books.• Shipping in the U.S. is $17.15 for one slab - but possibly less depending on your zip code or type of slab.• Other shipping will be at cost.• Orders over $200 add $2.45 to shipping for Signature Confirmation.• Raw books will be shipped USPS Priority mail at cost. • International shipping will be at cost and it's expensive. Canada is around $30 for 1 slab. 10 raw books to Canada is around $30. I’ll only ship USPS Priority internationally.• No probation listers or Hall of Shamers.• Boardies without long track records or unknown to me must provide solid references. • Checks or money orders only. (PayPal is ok if I know you or you have plenty of references.) • Payment required within 7 days of invoicing. • No returns on CGC books. Raw books may be returned if I’m notified within 5 days of delivery and books are returned within 2 weeks. No refunds on shipping costs. Buyer is responsible for return shipping. • $20 minimum order. -
Hello friends. On this Super-Bowl Sunday I wanted to give the community here an opportunity at a GGA Sports themed book before tucking it back away into Bounty's Book Vault for the future. The Rules: The Deal: in thread takes precedence over IM. Willing to take offers. Let's Talk. The Payment: I will accept Money Order, Check (must clear), Paypal. Anything else check with me first but I am flexible. Payment expected within 2 weeks unless agreed upon directly with me. The Shipping: I will ship the books how ever you want. Just expect it to take additional time to send out if not USPS. I will charge the exact cost and let you pay for the amount of Insurance and Extras that you want. The Return: No Returns on this book. It's CGC Graded; I will pack it bomb proof any issues outside of this would be grounds for Insurance Claims. Ask me questions if you have any. The Wild Card: Do you have a nice copy of Blue Bolt #105 or Mask #2 by LB Cole? Let's Talk. My Kudos: Remaining Details Coming Momentarily...
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I feel like these are improper modifications for a book from an original collection. I feel like it's important to maintain the integrity of the book as it came from the pedigree collection. I feel the same way about provenance books. I'm not saying my feelings are superior, I'm just throwing them out there. I'm asking for your response and reasoning. What are your thoughts on the matter? -
No probies or HOSers. First I'll take it or I'll take it via PM in thread wins. PM offers and questions are welcome as well. US Shipping will be on me this go around. All books will be shipped via Priority Mail. I may be willing to ship elsewhere at exact cost. If there's a problem with a raw book, message me within 5 days of receipt and we'll work something out. No returns on slabs. PayPal preferred method of payment, but contact me if you want to suggest something else. Just two books this go around, but they're big ones, and they don't pop up too often in this shape. Hulk #2 CGC 7.5 with White Pages from the Fantucchio collection, and a nice raw copy of Batman #121. You will not be disappointed with either book. Not long ago I parted with a bunch of gorgeous low number Daredevil's, I've seen a few of the single digit issues come back in the 9's. Recently I sold a couple High Grade copies of two silver age keys to a boardie, and the books exceeded his expectations even after sitting in the mail through Hurricane Irma.
