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If you know me, you know I get totally jazzed when I discover new information related to Seduction of the Innocent. And I'm totally jazzed. On pages 310-311 of Seduction of the Innocent, Dr. Wertham wrote, There are publicity comic books to influence adults. Sylvia F. Porter, the financial columnist, writes about a comic book got out by the American Bankers Association: "The aim is not just to amuse you. Not by a long shot. It is to mold your thinking in a specific way." If that is true of good comic books for bankers, isn't it true, too, of bad comic books for children? They mold a child's thinking in a specific way. For many years, the Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide has contended that this was a reference to Peter Penny and His Magic Dollar, the 1947 comic put out by the American Bankers Association. I had this quote on my list of things to research one of these days. Was Sylvia Porter's article really referring to Peter Penny and His Magic Dollar? Or the other known Peter Penny book, Peter Penny Saves the Day? I was pleasantly surprised to find the answer in a Facebook group for freebie comics. A gentleman named Michael Styborski had posted the original Sylvia Porter article that I had intended to hunt down. Thank you, Michael! That led me to some fun tidbits... First off, here's the article, which appeared in The Amarillo (TX) Daily News, January 20, 1949 as well as the Philadelphia Inquirer, December 27, 1948. Scroll past the photo if you like, because I've transcribed the text below. Here's the text of the article, with the relevant parts highlighted in red. Industry is finally discovering the comic book – greeting it with huzzahs and hoopla, taking it over with energy and enthusiasm. After all these years, the men who make American industry are recognizing that what Popeye has done for spinach and Jiggs has done for corned beef and cabbage, the descendants of Popeye and Jiggs can do for private enterprise, the profit system, labor management relations, independent banking, and the like. It’s a top-notch development right now. And, according to my friends in the public relations field, we’re seeing just the beginnings of your education to business via the comic strip. Which makes it important for you – the target – to know what’s up and what’s ahead for you and your children. Are you curious about jet propulsion or atom-smashing, interested in X-rays or diesel engines? General Electric is publishing a comib book series on “Adventures in Electricity.” A half-dozen of the booklets are on my desk now; I’ve studied them; they’re superb. And implicit in each cartoon, behind each word spoken by the comic characters, is a song of praise for the American industry which has made such wonders possible and for the company within that industry which has helped so greatly in the job. Do you ever wonder how our banking system functions and what it really contributes to your way of life? The American Bankers Association, that eminently conservative organization of financiers, has a “Peter Penny and His Magic Dollar” comic pamphlet to tell you the teal on an A-B-C level. And it’s putting out a new one, “Peter Penny Saves the Day,” to extol thrift. And here, too, implicit in each cartoon, behind each word spoken by the comic characters is a song of praise for the American system of private, independent banks. Only a few corporations and trade associations have so far explored the medium on a major scale – but these have had astounding success. The Institute for Life Insurance, for instance, decided to experiment with the comic booklet, “The Man Who Runs Interference,” to help sell insurance to you and me. They’re now counting distribution in the millions. Borden’s, W.T. Grant Co., the Milwaukee Railroad have pioneered in the field. You need no explanation from me as to the impact of such characters as Elise the Cow. Surveys indicate that 70,000,000 Americans are regular followers of newspaper strips or comic books; “100 million people have a fixed habit of reading comics in some form,” reports “Public Relations News,” a letter privately circularized among public relations executives. It’s estimated that just the handful of corporations and associations that have tried the comics have distributed 45 million booklets – half of them through the school systems. That last is a statistic in a class by itself. And the publicity experts state: “More and more companies are learning what the government learned during the war: comics have a higher readership and greater influence on the average mind than any other form of communication.” This alone should start the avalanche. As a comic strip devotee myself, I can appreciate the meaning of this development in its entirety. And at this point, there’s nothing wrong with it. If a cartoon will intrigue a stockholder into reading his annual company report, fine; let management put it in the cartoons. If a comic booklet will show the high school student – or graduate – how the private enterprise system operates and why businessmen must make profits under this system, fine; let’s have the comic books. But there’s dynamite in this development- dynamite hidden under its purposes, dynamite obscured by the very ease and simplicity of the communication medium. Selling a product such as spinach via Popeye goes in one class. Selling an idea on profits or strikes or the like via Popeye goes in an entirely different category. So as you read the comic pamphlets that undoubtedly will be coming your way in future months, realize fully that the aim is not just to amuse you. Not by a long shot. It is to instruct you in specific things, mold your thinking in a specific way. Read between, as well as on, the lines. So as it turns out, Sylvia Porter, when quoted by Wertham, was referring to BOTH Peter Penny books: Peter Penny and His Magic Dollar and Peter Penny Saves the Day. She mentions both in her article, and at the end she is referring to the general category of promotional comics when she says that they are intended to mold your thinking. At least, that's what I make of it, but I'm a little biased because I'm always looking to discover new SOTI books. What are your thoughts? Do you agree that both Peter Penny books should now be considered SOTI books? That's tonight's discovery... more about the various version of Peter Penny and His Magic Dollar coming up soon!
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Congratulations to whoever just won the auction for some of the original art from, and a copy of, the "one good comic book" ever published according to Dr. Wertham - The Nightingale. Well worth the $4,750. There are only three copies now in private hands. This fresh to the market copy is beat-up. While it has a cover and it is a very worthy addition to any collection given its extreme rarity, there is brittle paper loss in one corner, fortunately not impacting interior images, but rounding out that corner significantly, as well as numerous other flaws. My guess, probably around a CGC 1.0 brittle-cream. HOWEVER, if you don't have one of these you can never own a complete collection of all comics mentioned in SOTI. And it presents well enough. Moreover, whoever won this lot now has the book and four pages of original art (two in color and two in b&w - as they were published), what I think was a preliminary for an unused back cover, an unused b&w version of the two color pages of OA, and four stats. The color art is quite attractive by a significant fine artist - Dong Kingman. Quite a haul. I am positive the underbidders are disappointed. Again, congrats! -
Hello folks. Re-reading Seduction Of The Innocent and hunting down the original comic books as I read about them in the text was one of the best ways to deal with the existential horror of 2020. This project continues into the new year! All of this could not be done without the great lostsoti.org website and SOTIcollector's research and info. Even with this valuable resource there are still some things that aren't mentioned on that site that I've found through my own digging and obsessive comic book detective work. Before I get to these discoveries I propose a challenge to the board to find the only image in Dr. Wertham's infamous image gallery that has not been identified. It's shown below. First board member to find the comic gets a FREE COPY of Famous Crimes #19! It's not in the best shape (about a 2.0) but the book is rare, not available to read online, is mentioned in SOTI on page 96, and will be sent to the first person who posts the answer to this mystery for free (with postage paid)! Good luck! I hope someone figures it out after 66 years! WHAT COMIC BOOK IS THIS FROM? -
Hi there, I hope you're able to stay safe and healthy during these tough times. Some awesome books have popped up lately, and I'm looking to fund a purchase or two. I'll be posting a few at a time, as time permits. Some cool SOTI books to come, as well as a few non-SOTI items. Payment via PayPal. Returns for any reason welcome within 14 days. If the return is due to my error, I pay return shipping; otherwise, you pay return shipping. These items come from a smoke-free and, to the best of our knowledge, COVID-free house. No probationites or shameful ones. Shipping $12 in the US. Sorry, no shipping outside the US at the moment because that requires an extra trip to the Post Office, which I'm not willing to do right now. If you're outside the US and you'd like something in this thread, let's discuss a solution. Shipping via USPS Priority Mail, fully insured. I ship within 3 business days of receiving cleared payment. PM's are welcome, but "take it" in thread beats everything else. . All books unrestored unless noted. I have never pressed a book or bought a book I knew to be pressed, so everything is, to my knowledge, unpressed.
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1. no HOS or PROBIES 2.frist wins over any PM negotiations 3.please feel free to make offers! 4.payment via paypal , MO or Bitcoin to be paid within 5 days of winning an item 5.i will ship outside of the USA but please contact for rates! 6.shipping is $5 for 1-2 books $6 for 3 or more in the USA ONLY. Or we can work together on how you want it shipped. 7.returns within 7 days of getting your items. any questions please ask! so here we go! Kudos https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/351906-razes-kudos-thread/?tab=comments#comment-8171197 -
Returns are accepted within 14 days. Free shipping in the USA and Canada. First in the thread gets the book. Law Against Crime 3 Classic LB Cole cover. The Lipstick Killer story is used in SOTI. Book has cream to off white pages. General wear. 1.8 75.00 SOLD I'll post back cover scans and interiors in the morning. -
Hey everyone, I have just started 27 auctions on ebay featuring pre-code horror, science fiction, and GGA books. All certified, all starting at only 9.99 with no reserve. Some of these issues feature classic horror covers, 1st appearances, gore and violence. Several of the books are very tough. Besides the books pictured, there are several more certified by the other guys, including some keys like Menace #5. Take a look. http://www.ebaystores.com/COMIC-BOOK-MADNESS/_i.html?rt=nc&LH_Auction=1&_sid=462329&_trksid=p4634.c0.m309
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World finest 44 Soti 2.0 $150 usd Some rules No probation guys . Edmonton people ok .. listing in USD . Shipping included in north America. Returns ok 3 days . Split return shipping . Nice presenting book Square bound with spine damage Real interesting equality panel ... soti Some tape BC 150 usd shipped in north America
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AUTHENTIC POLICE CASES 3 SOTI goodness $300 usd Some rules No probation guys . Edmonton people ok .. listing in USD . Shipping included in north America. Returns ok 3 days . Split return shipping . Authentic police cases 3 $300 usd shipped in NA Hanging panels Bondage panels Bondage cover Blood draining soti panel Suicide panel Please see pics . Putting this at a VG + mostly due to tanning .small spine rip by staple . Lots of pics below
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hi everyone! 1. no HOS or PROBIES 2.frist wins 3.please feel free to make offers! 4.payment via paypal or MO to be paid within 2 days of winning an item 5.i will ship outside of the USA but please contact for rates! 6.shipping is $4 for 1-2 books $6 for 3 or more in the USA ONLY. 7.returns within 7 days of getting your items. any questions please ask! so here we go!
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Planet Comics #53 CGC 8.0 lt-ow , beautifully presenting copy! 850.00 775.00 600.00 EDIT: Forgot to copy this line.... Shipping is FREE in North America. Payment can be via Paypal, or check (book will ship when check clears) Returns... not accepted, unless I screw up. I pack my books like they are the ball at the annual Fedex/UPS dodgeball tournament.
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I have been on the boards for years, mostly buy and rarely sell. I have had many a deal with several around here like Billy, Rick, and Michael (Flex). One very special book for this thread. No returns on raw or CGC. Shipping is ok to US. If Canada, pm and we can talk. All other destinations, I am unable to ship. No HOS or other bad people. Payment via check or MO and should be within 7 days of post unless worked out prior to . First in thread wins unless pm deal is first. Time stamp will determine if needed. -
A new babies sale. I just added two new non-human babies to the family. One of the babies is a census-topping white-paged SOTI book. One has four wheels and a top that drops in the summertime. To soften the financial blow, let's see what I have lying around that's ready to join your collection... How about some Harvey file copies and a couple copies of SOTI. Maybe some others if I have time. Payment by Paypal. Returns within 1 week for any reason. Returns at your expense if you just change your mind, but I'l pick up the return shipping if the return is due to my error in the listing. "Take it" in thread trumps all, but PM's are welcome and encouraged. Shipping $4.95 within the US. Elsewhere in the world, shipping at exact USPS cost for fully insured.
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Great SOTI, GGA and clearance books this Sunday at Brass City Comic Con! I'm very excited to be setting up at my first con in a LONG time. More than a decade, I believe. If you went to the Boston cons in the 90's, you probably saw me there in my tuxedo. After many years of being just a collector, it's time to sell off some of my goodies. I tested out the old display rack, and it works like a charm. You might even say it's a "nice rack." If you're in the Northeast, don't miss the Brass City Comic Con in Waterbury, CT this Sunday! I'll have: - SOTI and SOTI-related books - GGA and hundreds of other GA books - A number of clearance lots. These are things aren't part of my current collecting focus and that I'm hoping I won't come home with. That means they'll be priced to GO GO GO. Hope to see you Sunday! https://www.facebook.com/brasscitycomiccon/ Pardon the sideways image. I keep removing it from the post, but I'll be darned if I can find a way to delete it and make it STAY deleted.
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Thanks for taking a look today! Afew SOTI book today. Hopefully posting on the new boards wont be too tough Rules- First in thread gets the book Shipping is $15 in north America others at cost Books coming from Canada so it may take afew more days than what you are use to. No bad guys allowed -HOS- People from Edmonton are allowed to buy as well ! Returns allowed with cost of return shipping paid by buyer. I have references , 100% positive on feebay as well. Please PM with any questions Cheers Thor
