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The Official The Walking Dead Discussion Thread
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On ‎2‎/‎1‎/‎2019 at 1:21 PM, Awax said:

I still read the comic.  Still watch the show. 

 

And 

 

enjoy both :banana:

Hey Awax, I'm right there with you!   I did some math based on when you joined and number of posts.  It looks like 88 months x 30 days per month = 2,640.   So you've averaged a bit over 4 posts per day, everyday, for over 7 years!!!  I'll bet I can learn a lot from you!

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On 2/1/2019 at 4:11 AM, BladeTX said:

What is the oldest TWD signature series that is out there?   I have seen 2010 and maybe 2008?  Signature Series was started in 2001.   I wonder if anyone has a Kirkman SS from 2003 to 2005?

I have a #9 signed by Charlie Adlard on 20 April 2008

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On 2/2/2019 at 1:12 AM, bigclutch said:

There he is!

And regarding the lack of posting to this thread. I'm sure some of the old timers would agree, this thread never rebounded after the change over to the new CGC Forums a few years ago. The drop off after the change over was sudden and severe. 

-shawn

So far as I can see, this thread now has just 25 followers. Very few of these appear active...

As for me, I love the comics and I love the show. Can't wait for the return of the season 9 mid-season premiere next weekend. And I'm hoping to visit the Senoia TWD sets in May/June 2019.

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Hi there TDW heads.  Looking for some help.  I found a website that published Image/TWD circulation numbers through about Issue 100.    Does anyone have access or know what the circulation has been for all TWD books?  I am most interested in 2 things.   (1) Has there been a drop-off in sales in the past 36 months?   I have heard stories that LCS's are ordering less copies in general.   Also having been an active CGC graded TWD buyer over the past year, prices are down approx. 1/3 for 6 months ago, another sign the book has reached saturation or is in decline.   (2) What are the circulation numbers for each of the 15th Anniversary reprints of #1-172? (The artist variants, not the store variants as most of them ordered the minimum 300).    That seems to be the only way to determine the true rarity of the 1:10 BW Virgin and 1:100 rare issues.    If someone has a link to this, I would sure appreciate it!

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You can try this site:

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales.html

It's not going to break down numbers between variants and reg covers but it should give you a ballpark in regards to sales number for preorders/final orders on books in North America.  It's not going to answer all your questions but it will help give you a rough estimate. 

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On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 8:13 AM, cbalroman said:

You can try this site:

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales.html

It's not going to break down numbers between variants and reg covers but it should give you a ballpark in regards to sales number for preorders/final orders on books in North America.  It's not going to answer all your questions but it will help give you a rough estimate. 

Thanks so much for that Link!!!  Here are some really interesting stats (at least to a data geek like me) from October, 2018 Sales, the month when TWD Day hit:

Walking Dead Issue 184: 60,814 (have not looked to see how this has trended.  Will likely add that in a future thread)

Walking Dead Issue 1 15th Ann (I assume Adlard plus the store variants): 106,090, #2 most for the month of all comics and just 1,500 units shy of the top.  For a Reprint!!!

Walking Dead Issue 19 15th Ann: 30,864  So 308 1:100 issues

Walking Dead Issue 100 15th Ann: 20,914.   So 209 1:100 issues

Walking Dead Issue 108 15th Ann: 16,662  So 166 1:100 issues

Walking Dead Issue 48 15th Ann: 16,637  So 166 1:100 issues

Walking Dead Issue 98 15th Ann: 13,530  So 135 1:100 issues

Cool, I have been looking for this info!!!!

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14 hours ago, BladeTX said:

Thanks so much for that Link!!!  Here are some really interesting stats (at least to a data geek like me) from October, 2018 Sales, the month when TWD Day hit:

Walking Dead Issue 184: 60,814 (have not looked to see how this has trended.  Will likely add that in a future thread)

Walking Dead Issue 1 15th Ann (I assume Adlard plus the store variants): 106,090, #2 most for the month of all comics and just 1,500 units shy of the top.  For a Reprint!!!

Walking Dead Issue 19 15th Ann: 30,864  So 308 1:100 issues

Walking Dead Issue 100 15th Ann: 20,914.   So 209 1:100 issues

Walking Dead Issue 108 15th Ann: 16,662  So 166 1:100 issues

Walking Dead Issue 48 15th Ann: 16,637  So 166 1:100 issues

Walking Dead Issue 98 15th Ann: 13,530  So 135 1:100 issues

Cool, I have been looking for this info!!!!

You're not the only geek (!). I like data like this (especially if I believe it), and I hope you'll continue to research and share it.

I believe the sales numbers here - I would expect #1, #19, #100 to sell above the others. How did #27 fare? It doesn't surprise me that #108 (Exeziel and Shiva) sold fewer. My observation is that the five (so called) 1:100s from the 15th Anniversary Blind Bags seem VERY rare indeed. If there really were 135-308 produced, they are are hardly showing up on the well-known auctions at all. We'll see....

Thank you for sharing. Top man!

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1 hour ago, StephenWA said:

You're not the only geek (!). I like data like this (especially if I believe it), and I hope you'll continue to research and share it.

I believe the sales numbers here - I would expect #1, #19, #100 to sell above the others. How did #27 fare? It doesn't surprise me that #108 (Exeziel and Shiva) sold fewer. My observation is that the five (so called) 1:100s from the 15th Anniversary Blind Bags seem VERY rare indeed. If there really were 135-308 produced, they are are hardly showing up on the well-known auctions at all. We'll see....

Thank you for sharing. Top man!

Hi Stephen,

   Yeah the 1:100s are not core to my collection but given the rarity, I might get some.

The Rank Order of the 15th Ann Variant Cover reprints is as follows:

1 - 31,043

19 - 30,864

100 - 20,914

2 - 19,011

27 - 17,944

7 - 16,852

53 - 16,766

108 - 16,662

48 - 16,637

167 - 16,361

127 - 16,168

92 - 16,082

171 - 15,847

132 - 14,859

98 - 13,540

So all versions of 98 are more than twice as rare as 19.

 

 

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23 hours ago, BladeTX said:

Hi Stephen,

   Yeah the 1:100s are not core to my collection but given the rarity, I might get some.

The Rank Order of the 15th Ann Variant Cover reprints is as follows:

1 - 31,043

19 - 30,864

100 - 20,914

2 - 19,011

27 - 17,944

7 - 16,852

53 - 16,766

108 - 16,662

48 - 16,637

167 - 16,361

127 - 16,168

92 - 16,082

171 - 15,847

132 - 14,859

98 - 13,540

So all versions of 98 are more than twice as rare as 19.

 

 

Can I just re-check the numbers on the #1?

Yesterday you mentioned 60,814. Above you mentioned 31,043. Is this something/anything to do with the store variants (by my calculations 151 store variants x 500 copies minimum order = 75,500)?

Do you know which is correct? Sorry to be "geeky"...

Thanks,

Stephen

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6 minutes ago, StephenWA said:

Can I just re-check the numbers on the #1?

Yesterday you mentioned 60,814. Above you mentioned 31,043. Is this something/anything to do with the store variants (by my calculations 151 store variants x 500 copies minimum order = 75,500)?

Do you know which is correct? Sorry to be "geeky"...

Thanks,

Stephen

Store variants should be counted in the stated distribution numbers as they would have been distributed by Diamond.

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5 hours ago, StephenWA said:

Can I just re-check the numbers on the #1?

Yesterday you mentioned 60,814. Above you mentioned 31,043. Is this something/anything to do with the store variants (by my calculations 151 store variants x 500 copies minimum order = 75,500)?

Do you know which is correct? Sorry to be "geeky"...

Thanks,

Stephen

Hi Stephen, please re-read my post.  The 60,814 is for the regular monthly TWD issue #184.

The Number (as reported by Diamond) of the 15th Anniversary Adlard cover plus the 151 store variants is 106,090.    So yes, this makes sense as it is well above the minimum order quantity plus includes the Adlard variant.

The #1 15th Anniversary (31,043) is a total of the 4 variants as drawn by cover artist David Finch.

Hope this clears it up.

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On 2/11/2019 at 12:19 AM, BladeTX said:

Hi Stephen, please re-read my post.  The 60,814 is for the regular monthly TWD issue #184.

The Number (as reported by Diamond) of the 15th Anniversary Adlard cover plus the 151 store variants is 106,090.    So yes, this makes sense as it is well above the minimum order quantity plus includes the Adlard variant.

The #1 15th Anniversary (31,043) is a total of the 4 variants as drawn by cover artist David Finch.

Hope this clears it up.

Very clear - thank you again :-)

 

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Hi ya'll,

    You may notice a change in the point value of your Walking Dead Registry sets.   Back in October, I asked Mollie to re-evaluate the points for Issue #2 given it is the lowest regular issue print run and has 1/4 as many in 9.8 as #1.  Only 16.5% achieve a 9.8, I believe because these books were actually READ instead of many #1's getting immediately bagged and boarded for speculation.  So she bumped the 9.8 Universal points from 400 to 2,880 and SS from 440 to 3,168.   Obviously this creates a +248 positive swing for collections with a #2 in 9.8 Signature Series versus Universal.    But IMO opinion well justified and Mollie followed-up on my research - you can see it in the "2018 This Score Needs a Fixin'" thread.  

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On 2/19/2019 at 12:54 AM, BladeTX said:

Hi ya'll,

    You may notice a change in the point value of your Walking Dead Registry sets.   Back in October, I asked Mollie to re-evaluate the points for Issue #2 given it is the lowest regular issue print run and has 1/4 as many in 9.8 as #1.  Only 16.5% achieve a 9.8, I believe because these books were actually READ instead of many #1's getting immediately bagged and boarded for speculation.  So she bumped the 9.8 Universal points from 400 to 2,880 and SS from 440 to 3,168.   Obviously this creates a +248 positive swing for collections with a #2 in 9.8 Signature Series versus Universal.    But IMO opinion well justified and Mollie followed-up on my research - you can see it in the "2018 This Score Needs a Fixin'" thread.  

Yes - I agree the revaluation: +2480 swing for 9.8 Universal and +2728 swing for 9.8 Signature Series.

Did you intend the #2, Second Printing was also re-evaluated? There are even fewer of those...

There are probably some other issues in the TWD sets that need attention too...

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7 hours ago, StephenWA said:

Yes - I agree the revaluation: +2480 swing for 9.8 Universal and +2728 swing for 9.8 Signature Series.

Did you intend the #2, Second Printing was also re-evaluated? There are even fewer of those...

There are probably some other issues in the TWD sets that need attention too...

Hi Stephen,

   Well I don't have a Second Printing and at the time I bought my #2, the second printing was selling for less than the first printing.   I'm only doing books 1-50 CGC 9.8 SS with a few fun issues thrown in.  But you are welcome to ask Mollie if she wants to make an adjustment to the Second Printing, though I would advocate for the same points as the First Printing as it does not sell for more.   As far as other issues, I'm sure some should be considered.   One I think should go down is the outrageous 640 points for the very common Issue #92 (I bought one because I like Jesus but even in CGC 9.8 it was only $60).    There is no reason that book can justify nearly 3 times as many points as issues 3 and 4.   But I'm only vested in the #1-48 set so was most interested in getting #2 addressed.

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