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On 3/31/2019 at 1:03 PM, BladeTX said:

More TWD Research on individual books.   I was able to do some research on www.comichron.com which tracks Diamond's distribution.  Below are distributor shipments for TWD from Issue 100 to present.    Comichron advises against trending because sometimes publishers send books late and it's tough to gauge month to month.  But TWD has been so incredibly consistent that I didn't see issues of books with duplicate shipments one month then none the next.   I'm sure people will poke all kinds of holes in this but one thing is clear.  TWD distribution has fallen like a rock over the past 6 issues, with the last 2 over 50% lower than prior trending.  Some things to note:

  • Aside from some craziness for Issues 100 and 115 and the many variants, the book was surprisingly consistent from 106 to 181.   Sure, while there were the occasional pops into the 80K level, the books held steady monthly from 65K to 75K issues as a typical range
  • Issue 157 to 164 (Whisperer War arc) had a meaningful bump in distribution, at 97K, 91K, 88K, 85K, 85K, 84K.  Issue 163 was not reported but that was the 25 cent special so not sure why.  That was the only issue in the Diamond records not listed.   Maybe they do not list free-ish promotions?
  • Issue 171 (first Princess) popped up to 84K.   Not sure why issue 168 sold high at 82K except cover shows Negan out on his own.
  • The painful news for collectors.  Look at the distribution for the last 2 issues.  It appears the Commonwealth clashes are not pulling the typical readership with just 46K issues for #187 and 45K for #188.  I don't like it, I'm just reporting the numbers.  

Here is the month to month detail:

2012

 

 

 

100 335,082

 

101 51,732

 

102 53,337

 

103 74,378

 

104 57,456

 

105 57,781

 

 

 

2013

 

 

 

106 70,526

 

107 63,575

 

108 67,423

 

109 90,362

 

110 76,455

 

111 74,857

 

112 72,975

 

113 70,273

 

114 70,440

 

115 310,584

 

116 69,913

 

117 68.818

 

118 68,020

 

 

 

2014

 

 

 

119 65,151

 

120 65,286

 

121 65,244

 

122 64,810

 

123 64.460

 

124 64,559

 

125 66,761

 

126 67,853

 

127 71,352

 

128 74,326

 

129 72,098

 

130 71,885

 

131 69,810

 

132 326,344 (includes 200K-250K from Loot Crate)

 

133 69,561

 

134 68,093

 

135 67,361

 

 

 

2015

 

 

 

136 66,097

 

137 65,620

 

138 66,778

 

139 67,349

 

140 66,553

 

141 68,931

 

142 68,221

 

143 67,989

 

144 79,496

 

145 82,792

 

146 69,006

 

147 67,056

 

148 65,526

 

149 65,406

 

 

 

2016

 

 

 

150 156,166

 

151 67,381

 

152 67,258

 

153 67,358

 

154 68,922

 

155 71,755

 

156 76,355

 

157 97,689

 

158 94,316

 

159 91,291

 

160 88,367

 

161 85,459

 

 

 

2017

 

 

 

162 85,395

 

163 Not published

 

164 83,999

 

165 70,422

 

166 68,205

 

167 74,062

 

168 82,970

 

169 67,910

 

170 65,855

 

171 84,239

 

172 64,231

 

173 63,228

 

174 60,964

 

 

 

2018

 

 

 

175 82,361

 

176 77,407

 

177 74,828

 

178 73,978

 

179 73,744

 

180 71,196

 

181 67,681

 

182 65,101

 

183 62,514

 

184 60,814

 

185 58,258

 

186 58,020

 

 

 

2019

 

 

 

187 46,536

 

188 44,947

 

189 Not yet published

 

 

 

Thanks for pulling this together. 

I'm less worried about the numbers for 185 and 186.  Looking year-over-year, the numbers take a big dip in the last few months of the calendar year. 

But the 2019 numbers are significant.  Not only super low print runs in comparison to the past, but no new year bump like the previous years.  

He's probably hoping to get a boost from that 200th issue and Season 9.

Patrick

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I have watched the Walking Dead since the first episode and I will continue watching until the end but there is no denying the show has been on the downturn for the last couple of years.  Years ago my entire family watched every episode together (7 of us).  Currently I'm the only one watching.  The same goes for my work buddies.  I work in law enforcement and we had a group of about 10 guys that watched every week.  Just like my family they all stopped watching.

The main reason is the show has become so politically correct.  There is no chance if this was real life the people would be taking orders from the people who are currently in charge.  It's almost like the producers are trying to ruin the show.  They have already lost half their audience and I think this is only the beginning.  Hopefully things will change.

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Well, the “follow the leader” is carried over from the comics, though that is not working out so well for a new community in the book.

But sadly I agree with the quality of the shows in Seasons 7, 8 and 9A.   I do think second half of Season 9 has been good.    But I am watching the series over and into Season 5, I am still on the edge of my sofa and ready to immediately watch the next episode.   Those first 5 seasons really were something special.

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6 hours ago, bigclutch said:

I'm not trying to flex, but I thought you all might get a kick out of seeing the Campbell art. Here's the inks and the thumbnail sketch. Definitely one of the top pieces in my collection.

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Sweet!   Got any other TWD treasures like this?

 

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So I absolutely love the Rathburn back cover sketches on the early TWD issues (and am incredibly jealous of Phill the Governor who has the OA for Issue 25).    So I need some help.  I know that Rathburn did back cover pin ups for Issues 25 to 29 and 31 to 38.  I've got those.   However, I saw the reverses of Issues 52 and 53 and they had Rathburn drawings as well.   After Issue 50, which ones have Rathburn back covers?   I *might* start collecting those as I think they are really pretty awesome.

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11 hours ago, bigclutch said:

I'm not trying to flex, but I thought you all might get a kick out of seeing the Campbell art. Here's the inks and the thumbnail sketch. Definitely one of the top pieces in my collection.

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You got this hanging on the wall yet?

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Thought I would share my 4 favorites - let’s see yours!!!

Top left: TWD #1 signed by Kirkman and Moore
Top right: TWD #2 also signed by both Robert and Tony with Tony's sketch of a Walker.  Very high quality sketch.
Bottom left: TWD #19, signed Kirkman with Moore signature and sketch (average quality)
Bottom right: TWD "Hero Initiative".  Joe Jusko Marvel artist and one of my Top 5 favorites from the series.

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Second pic: The "Hero Initiative" is a full wrap-around cover that looks like this.   The bloody infant hand in the crib is pretty macabre but I thought it was a nice touch.

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On 4/12/2019 at 9:47 PM, BladeTX said:

So I absolutely love the Rathburn back cover sketches on the early TWD issues (and am incredibly jealous of Phill the Governor who has the OA for Issue 25).    So I need some help.  I know that Rathburn did back cover pin ups for Issues 25 to 29 and 31 to 38.  I've got those.   However, I saw the reverses of Issues 52 and 53 and they had Rathburn drawings as well.   After Issue 50, which ones have Rathburn back covers?   I *might* start collecting those as I think they are really pretty awesome.

I’m a big fan of those as well, and happy to own the back cover OA for #33 :cloud9:

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On 4/12/2019 at 10:06 PM, cbalroman said:

You got this hanging on the wall yet?

Not on the wall yet. Soon though.

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On 4/13/2019 at 8:04 AM, BladeTX said:

Thought I would share my 4 favorites - let’s see yours!!!

Top left: TWD #1 signed by Kirkman and Moore
Top right: TWD #2 also signed by both Robert and Tony with Tony's sketch of a Walker.  Very high quality sketch.
Bottom left: TWD #19, signed Kirkman with Moore signature and sketch (average quality)
Bottom right: TWD "Hero Initiative".  Joe Jusko Marvel artist and one of my Top 5 favorites from the series.

 

Second pic: The "Hero Initiative" is a full wrap-around cover that looks like this.   The bloody infant hand in the crib is pretty macabre but I thought it was a nice touch.

 

The Jusko HI cover always stood out to me because of the red. It popped off the wall. Great pick up.

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On 4/12/2019 at 4:54 PM, BladeTX said:

Sweet!   Got any other TWD treasures like this?

 

I've got a few things here and there. ;)

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Just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Tim. New to these forums but a long time Walking Dead fan (show and comic). Been collecting for a number of years and keep adding new editions to my collecting as often as I can. As for the first prints of the full run all I am missing is issue #1 which I plan on adding very soon. My question to y’all is which issues from 1-50 have 2nd prints?  The only ones that I’m familiar with is issues 2 and 7 which I have both and issue 33 which I have yet to acquire. Any help will be very appreciated. 

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7 hours ago, Timothy Villalpando said:

Just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Tim. New to these forums but a long time Walking Dead fan (show and comic). Been collecting for a number of years and keep adding new editions to my collecting as often as I can. As for the first prints of the full run all I am missing is issue #1 which I plan on adding very soon. My question to y’all is which issues from 1-50 have 2nd prints?  The only ones that I’m familiar with is issues 2 and 7 which I have both and issue 33 which I have yet to acquire. Any help will be very appreciated. 

Hi Tim and welcome.

Reprints for first 50 are 2, 7, 8, 33, 34 and 50.   33, 34, and 50 have cover variations whereas 2, 7, 8 look identical, just different dates.

Good luck in completing your collection!  I personally have a second #1 but have plans to get it sketched by Tony someday.

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7 hours ago, Timothy Villalpando said:

Just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Tim. New to these forums but a long time Walking Dead fan (show and comic). Been collecting for a number of years and keep adding new editions to my collecting as often as I can. As for the first prints of the full run all I am missing is issue #1 which I plan on adding very soon. My question to y’all is which issues from 1-50 have 2nd prints?  The only ones that I’m familiar with is issues 2 and 7 which I have both and issue 33 which I have yet to acquire. Any help will be very appreciated. 

BTW, as luck would have it, Sensei Ryan just posted CGC 9.8 copies of the #7 and #8 Second Prints on eBay last Sunday and they are active until the end of the weekend.  Be sure to check them out if interested.  These don't come around often, so if you are intent on getting the Second Prints, this is a great opportunity.  Ryan, you can thank me later :)

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On 4/18/2019 at 9:06 AM, BladeTX said:

BTW, as luck would have it, Sensei Ryan just posted CGC 9.8 copies of the #7 and #8 Second Prints on eBay last Sunday and they are active until the end of the weekend.  Be sure to check them out if interested.  These don't come around often, so if you are intent on getting the Second Prints, this is a great opportunity.  Ryan, you can thank me later :)

Ha! I bid on these right before I posted. Hope I win. 

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Strange, I had those on my Watch List and they are closed with 0 bids.   They were the ones starting at $150.

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10 hours ago, Timothy Villalpando said:

Ha! I bid on these right before I posted. Hope I win. 

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11 hours ago, BladeTX said:

Strange, I had those on my Watch List and they are closed with 0 bids.   They were the ones starting at $150.

My fault. I bid on a lot of Issue 8 1st and 2nd print. Misread the previous post. 

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Posted (edited)

I hear there’ll be some surprises for us in #192, June 5th (the last issue of volume 32)...

Edited by StephenWA
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