The Official PEDIGREE BOOK thread! Updates and comments here
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Has anyone asked him about it lately?

 

I'll see Stephen in Chicago and ask him if there are any updates. Matt will be there but he'll be mega busy, but if I run into him I'll ask him, too (thumbs u

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The authors should do a kickstarter.

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I would chip in :)

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if it is a finance issue that would be the route to take. I know I would pledge a Benjamin.

 

I have some feeling that is not the case though...

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if it is a finance issue that would be the route to take. I know I would pledge a Benjamin.

 

I have some feeling that is not the case though...

 

+1

 

It's been nearly 5 years since the announcement. By the time the book is actually for sale, The Walking Dead will be celebrating it's 75th anniversary. :insane:

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As a collector who paid up-front for this release set over a decade ago, the snail's pace should've made me angry. But I've come to the conclusion that these labor of love projects take an incredible amount of dedication and money to reach fruition. Since there is limited public support to get them off the ground, much less finished and marketed, it mostly falls on the shoulders of one or more authors trying to balance business and family responsibilities. (shrug)

 

Just my 2c

 

 

a guy was going down his porch steps one morning, and saw a snail on the bottom step. he picked it up and hurled it as far as he could into the woods adjacent to his house.

 

6 mos. later the guy was going down his steps one morning. he saw a snail on the bottom step. the snail said "what the hell did you do that for?"

 

I think we should get a list of all folks who pre-paid on this solicitation said the snail to the man.

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if it is a finance issue that would be the route to take. I know I would pledge a Benjamin.

 

I have some feeling that is not the case though...

 

+1

 

It's been nearly 5 years since the announcement. By the time the book is actually for sale, The Walking Dead will be celebrating it's 75th anniversary. :insane:

 

Hell, this thread was started 4 years ago. Perhaps Bob B could lend a hand.....

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My post 12/18/2011

 

Hi everyone!

 

Now that Stephen Ritter and I are here together in Dallas, Worldwide is off and running and the new year is upon us, we’re both racing to the finish line on our Pedigree book. First off, let me give a big Thank You to everyone for being patient, and especially to our advertisers whose support has, and will make this project a success. When I started this back in 2003, I had no idea how much of an undertaking it is to write a book. Stephen and I work on the book only in our spare time, time which seems to be continually shrinking day to day.

 

So going forward, we decided now would be the perfect time to start an official pedigree thread to provide updates, ask research questions, and create a place for everyone to post thoughts, comments, etc. To start off, we pose these five questions below to anyone reading. Feel free to either respond here, or contact us privately if that is your prerogative. My email is matt@comicpedigrees.com, and Stephen’s is Stephen@wwcomics.com. The more response we get to our questions, the more questions we will post.

 

Comicpedigrees.com, the official website for the pedigree book has also been updated, which now includes a checklist of where we’re at with each of the 48 collections. This list will be updated as we progress with each story. Our hope is to have the book finished and out during this year’s convention season.

 

We’ll be checking this thread almost every day, but please give us at least a day or two to post, as we tend to get swamped at work. Stephen is leaving for the NY show on Saturday, and I’ll be at Ponscon all this weekend, followed by my trip to NY next Tuesday. Of course we’ll be set up with our huge inventory from wwcomics.com, and I’ll be doing my on-site proscreens for pressing and restoration for classicsincorporated.com. (shameless plug)

 

Without further ado, here are the first five questions of the thread:

 

1. Did anyone buy any key issues from an antique dealer couple named the Thompsons in the '70s? The collection they purchased would go on to be considered the Kansas City pedigree, which happens to be the oldest pedigree among our 48.

 

2. Can anyone provide scans of Kansas City books?

 

3. Has anyone ever seen a San Francisco pedigree copy from the Nedor/Standard/Better publisher before?

 

4. It appears that the Pennsylvania collection original list is lost. Does anyone know of big key issues from this collection?

 

5. Does anyone have contact info for Bob Gray, broker of the Twilight collection (owner of Twilight Book and Game Emporium, Syracuse, NY)?

 

Thanks for reading…I hope we see some interesting feedback and discussions here.

 

Matt Nelson

 

 

 

I had really been looking forward to seeing this book, I even brought over a writer friend to Matt/Steve's booth, about 3 years before this announcement (in case they needed help) but I was assured they had it covered.

 

What I find curious, is the hype about checking in almost every day, then 4 posts and nothing else...

 

and the advertisers :shrug:

 

My guess is, this is a project that will not really see print, other things are probably more lucrative, and families do take time.

 

Matt's post the next day

 

 

It will definitely see print. Steve and I are constantly discussing it, but we just have not had the time to finish it. Business and personal lives suck up every available minute right now.

 

What is left to do is write the last stories listed on the pedigree site. Easier said than done, because each one requires several phone calls, data crunching, drafts, picture layout, etc. After the stories are done, then I can write the front and back part of the book, which is basically the overview, compare and contrast of all the pedigrees.

 

I scheduled work to resume on my end right after the NY show in October, but here we are two months later, and work has not slowed down at all. December may as well be July. Which I'm thankful for, but it's preventing me from putting time in to get the book done.

 

I'm now pinning my hopes on January to March to devote to the book. One of my biggest pet peeves is not finishing something I start, so this will be done, come hell or high water. I had no idea writing this kind of book would be such a massive undertaking.

 

Hang in there everyone, it will see print.

 

So, I'll repeat what I said, with families and now not being in the same State...

 

I don't think it's going to happen.

 

Maybe a ghost writer would help...and no...not Nicholas Cage;)

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I have been wanting this book, and waiting for this book, for a long time (as have many of us, obviously). I am glad I did not pay in advance.

 

This reminds me of the Anthony Castrillo fiasco. A lot of interest, hope and desire. But alas....

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My post 12/18/2011

 

Hi everyone!

 

Now that Stephen Ritter and I are here together in Dallas, Worldwide is off and running and the new year is upon us, we’re both racing to the finish line on our Pedigree book. First off, let me give a big Thank You to everyone for being patient, and especially to our advertisers whose support has, and will make this project a success. When I started this back in 2003, I had no idea how much of an undertaking it is to write a book. Stephen and I work on the book only in our spare time, time which seems to be continually shrinking day to day.

 

So going forward, we decided now would be the perfect time to start an official pedigree thread to provide updates, ask research questions, and create a place for everyone to post thoughts, comments, etc. To start off, we pose these five questions below to anyone reading. Feel free to either respond here, or contact us privately if that is your prerogative. My email is matt@comicpedigrees.com, and Stephen’s is Stephen@wwcomics.com. The more response we get to our questions, the more questions we will post.

 

Comicpedigrees.com, the official website for the pedigree book has also been updated, which now includes a checklist of where we’re at with each of the 48 collections. This list will be updated as we progress with each story. Our hope is to have the book finished and out during this year’s convention season.

 

We’ll be checking this thread almost every day, but please give us at least a day or two to post, as we tend to get swamped at work. Stephen is leaving for the NY show on Saturday, and I’ll be at Ponscon all this weekend, followed by my trip to NY next Tuesday. Of course we’ll be set up with our huge inventory from wwcomics.com, and I’ll be doing my on-site proscreens for pressing and restoration for classicsincorporated.com. (shameless plug)

 

Without further ado, here are the first five questions of the thread:

 

1. Did anyone buy any key issues from an antique dealer couple named the Thompsons in the '70s? The collection they purchased would go on to be considered the Kansas City pedigree, which happens to be the oldest pedigree among our 48.

 

2. Can anyone provide scans of Kansas City books?

 

3. Has anyone ever seen a San Francisco pedigree copy from the Nedor/Standard/Better publisher before?

 

4. It appears that the Pennsylvania collection original list is lost. Does anyone know of big key issues from this collection?

 

5. Does anyone have contact info for Bob Gray, broker of the Twilight collection (owner of Twilight Book and Game Emporium, Syracuse, NY)?

 

Thanks for reading…I hope we see some interesting feedback and discussions here.

 

Matt Nelson

 

 

 

I had really been looking forward to seeing this book, I even brought over a writer friend to Matt/Steve's booth, about 3 years before this announcement (in case they needed help) but I was assured they had it covered.

 

What I find curious, is the hype about checking in almost every day, then 4 posts and nothing else...

 

and the advertisers :shrug:

 

My guess is, this is a project that will not really see print, other things are probably more lucrative, and families do take time.

 

Matt's post the next day

 

 

It will definitely see print. Steve and I are constantly discussing it, but we just have not had the time to finish it. Business and personal lives suck up every available minute right now.

 

What is left to do is write the last stories listed on the pedigree site. Easier said than done, because each one requires several phone calls, data crunching, drafts, picture layout, etc. After the stories are done, then I can write the front and back part of the book, which is basically the overview, compare and contrast of all the pedigrees.

 

I scheduled work to resume on my end right after the NY show in October, but here we are two months later, and work has not slowed down at all. December may as well be July. Which I'm thankful for, but it's preventing me from putting time in to get the book done.

 

I'm now pinning my hopes on January to March to devote to the book. One of my biggest pet peeves is not finishing something I start, so this will be done, come hell or high water. I had no idea writing this kind of book would be such a massive undertaking.

 

Hang in there everyone, it will see print.

 

So, I'll repeat what I said, with families and now not being in the same State...

 

I don't think it's going to happen.

 

Maybe a ghost writer would help...and no...not Nicholas Cage;)

 

It certainly seems that unless they bring in a third author, the book will never appear. I imagine they could recruit someone from off these boards who would be willing to pitch in and finish up the book.

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Wasn't the book shipped to a third party in the Niagara Falls area?

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Wasn't the book shipped to a third party in the Niagara Falls area?

 

Niagara Falls! Slowly I turned ….

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Matt and Steve have been assisted by West (timely) and Mark Haspel.

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Matt and Steve have been assisted by West (timely) and Mark Haspel.

 

Think it's time, though, for them just to hand over what they've got to someone else and have that person put the book together? hm

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I offered help with graphics, i.e. prepping the book for print . . .

 

Maybe the idea of a static book is no longer practical. Considering how many pedigrees have popped up in recent years, and with baby-boomers reaching old age, more yet may be on the horizon.

 

The Pedigree web site is cool - but it needs help (updates). I think CGC should maybe consider taking this on and linking the pedigree web site to the census, and allow pedigrees to be identified within the total number of existing issues in each grade.

 

Without the pedigree slabs, would anybody really care so much about pedigrees? CGC has a vested interest in maintaining the popularity of the Pedigree designation, so why not bank-roll a registry for them?

 

And a Pedigree Web site in lieu of a printed book may be more logical. As new pedigrees are discovered, a book becomes obsolete, whereas a web site that links to the census (and by virtue to the set registry) would constantly be updated.

 

. . . adding to the popularity of the registry as well, which also drives more collectors to have books slabbed * ;)

 

That's my 2c

 

* take it from me

 

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They are feverishly working to get it out in the fall....

 

...not sure which year, but it will definitely be out in the fall.

 

:popcorn:

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As a collector who paid up-front for this release set over a decade ago, the snail's pace should've made me angry. But I've come to the conclusion that these labor of love projects take an incredible amount of dedication and money to reach fruition. Since there is limited public support to get them off the ground, much less finished and marketed, it mostly falls on the shoulders of one or more authors trying to balance business and family responsibilities. (shrug)

 

Just my 2c

 

 

a guy was going down his porch steps one morning, and saw a snail on the bottom step. he picked it up and hurled it as far as he could into the woods adjacent to his house.

 

6 mos. later the guy was going down his steps one morning. he saw a snail on the bottom step. the snail said "what the hell did you do that for?"

 

I think we should get a list of all folks who pre-paid on this solicitation said the snail to the man.

 

:hi:

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