clemso Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Have i missed the thread, I am surprise it has not been discussed. It would be a bit like a certain European collector dropping his entire Kirby inventory on ebay all at once. I am not in the know on Carl Barks paintings, are these realistic or even realisable prices? Why dropped them all at once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Seffinga Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Seems like you'd be diluting your own bidder base by doing this? -e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider9698 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 This doesn't count the ones he tried to sell in Heritage last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollectingFool Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Remember when that did happen to the Kirby market? Didn't take that long for prices to stabalize and start climbing again. Maybe because dealers got a hold of the majority of it first but prices started climbing again within 6 months of that huge amount of art hitting the market. Ruben http://www.collectingfool.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Have i missed the thread, I am surprise it has not been discussed. It would be a bit like a certain European collector dropping his entire Kirby inventory on ebay all at once. I am not in the know on Carl Barks paintings, are these realistic or even realisable prices? Why dropped them all at once? Eh, maybe he needed to buy another Tough Kid Squad Judging from his ebay profile this is none other than........... the one............. the only....... "shirtless" Theo Holstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicartcom Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Bronty, if they're talking about the half dozen Barks pieces from $30-100k on fleaBay right now, those are from Diamond/Geppi though I will admit, at first I thought it would be Theo. However once I saw which paintings they were, I knew different as 5 of the 6 used to hang in one of my best friend's homes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerdurden-migration Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I don't understand the Carl Barks duck market Can somebody explain it to me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Bronty, if they're talking about the half dozen Barks pieces from $30-100k on fleaBay right now, those are from Diamond/Geppi though I will admit, at first I thought it would be Theo. However once I saw which paintings they were, I knew different as 5 of the 6 used to hang in one of my best friend's homes.. aha, you're right I didn't look closely enough Diamond is the seller on most of them. "preduction" is the seller on one piece however, and I think that's Theo per this description Please add me to your list of favorite sellers and come again. I BUY and Sell 1904 Penny Arcade, 1950 Arcade Machines, Go Karts, Carl Barks, Mad, Bill Ward ,Howdy Doody, Cartoon Character dolls & toys, 1st Issue Spiderman, Superman comics, Props & Film Production, Vintage Cars, 850 Jukeboxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I don't understand the Carl Barks duck market Can somebody explain it to me ? Well, what confuses you about it? The fact that the paintings sometimes don't look like much yet go for large sums? 99.99% of the art got destroyed and all that's left are these commissioned paintings done after the fact. So if you want a barks pen and ink the pickings are beyond slim and the prices sometimes just as steep as the paintings. The paintings sometimes aren't the best in my view (he was a much better line art artist than he was a painter ) but if you want something by one of the masters of comic book art and storytelling, its pretty much all you can get. There's some heavy hitters that are into barks and would no doubt love a painting. I love barks a ton myself but could never pay this kind of dough for one even if I could easily afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerdurden-migration Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I don't understand the Carl Barks duck market Can somebody explain it to me ? Well, what confuses you about it? The fact that the paintings sometimes don't look like much yet go for large sums? 99.99% of the art got destroyed and all that's left are these commissioned paintings done after the fact. So if you want a barks pen and ink the pickings are beyond slim and the prices sometimes just as steep as the paintings. The paintings sometimes aren't the best in my view (he was a much better line art artist than he was a painter ) but if you want something by one of the masters of comic book art and storytelling, its pretty much all you can get. There's some heavy hitters that are into barks and would no doubt love a painting. I love barks a ton myself but could never pay this kind of dough for one even if I could easily afford it. Thanks for the explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicartcom Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Bronty, if they're talking about the half dozen Barks pieces from $30-100k on fleaBay right now, those are from Diamond/Geppi though I will admit, at first I thought it would be Theo. However once I saw which paintings they were, I knew different as 5 of the 6 used to hang in one of my best friend's homes.. aha, you're right I didn't look closely enough Diamond is the seller on most of them. "preduction" is the seller on one piece however, and I think that's Theo per this description Please add me to your list of favorite sellers and come again. I BUY and Sell 1904 Penny Arcade, 1950 Arcade Machines, Go Karts, Carl Barks, Mad, Bill Ward ,Howdy Doody, Cartoon Character dolls & toys, 1st Issue Spiderman, Superman comics, Props & Film Production, Vintage Cars, 850 Jukeboxes that must have been the 6th one :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Probably the best collector ad of all time: http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://boards.collectors-society.com/attachments/64733.jpg&imgrefurl=http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php%3Fubb%3Dshowflat%26Number%3D2579236&usg=__W1XPkjjrJihQDXlE7lqNQ86tsxI=&h=1086&w=650&sz=141&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=wNF7McAhQws5yM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=90&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtheo%2Bholstein%2Bad%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1 I give honorable mention to Dave Mandel's "if I can afford women like these" ad in the Weist price guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Have i missed the thread, I am surprise it has not been discussed. It would be a bit like a certain European collector dropping his entire Kirby inventory on ebay all at once. I am not in the know on Carl Barks paintings, are these realistic or even realisable prices? Why dropped them all at once? Eh, maybe he needed to buy another Tough Kid Squad Judging from his ebay profile this is none other than........... the one............. the only....... "shirtless" Theo Holstein He was so dreamy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicartcom Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 (edited) Bronty, there was only one thing wrong with Theo's ad....... everyone I ever knew who tried to sell him something NEVER got his advertised offering Last time Theo tried to buy something from me was about 1995 at SDCC. I had a pulp cover painting at 5k Theo asked if I would take $2500 and worked his way up to $4500 and I still wouldn't sell it to him and he couldn't understand why. He was with one of my best friends in the world who came back a little while later and asked why I was giving him a hard time and I told him a 20 year old story of Theo screwing me for $5 and I would never do business with him since. Theo came back and offered to buy it for my 5k price.. well, I still wouldn't sell it to him. Too bad Theo Edited August 26, 2009 by comicartcom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DStorm Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 He must be in some serious hurt financially to let so many of these high priced items go ... I wonder what happened? Not to mention the car and I want that Norman Saunders! http://shop.ebay.com/preduction/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinupcartoonguy Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Hey Rich, Who is Stu? Alex Bronty, there was only one thing wrong with Stuey's ad....... everyone I ever knew who tried to sell him something NEVER got his advertised offering Last time Stu tried to buy something from me was about 1995 at SDCC. I had a pulp cover painting at 5k Stu asked if I would take $2500 and worked his way up to $4500 and I still wouldn't sell it to him and he couldn't understand why. He was with one of my best friends in the world who came back a little while later and asked why I was giving him a hard time and I told him a 20 year old story of Stu screwing me for $5 and I would never do business with him since. Stu came back and offered to buy it for my 5k price.. well, I still wouldn't sell it to him. Too bad Stuey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicartcom Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I'm sorry, I meant Theo.. I'll go back & change the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Bronty, there was only one thing wrong with Theo's ad....... everyone I ever knew who tried to sell him something NEVER got his advertised offering Last time Theo tried to buy something from me was about 1995 at SDCC. I had a pulp cover painting at 5k Theo asked if I would take $2500 and worked his way up to $4500 and I still wouldn't sell it to him and he couldn't understand why. He was with one of my best friends in the world who came back a little while later and asked why I was giving him a hard time and I told him a 20 year old story of Theo screwing me for $5 and I would never do business with him since. Theo came back and offered to buy it for my 5k price.. well, I still wouldn't sell it to him. Too bad Theo Wow great story Rich... makes me look at the ad in a whole new light. Did he shaft you for payment on a $5 book or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem1138 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I give honorable mention to Dave Mandel's "if I can afford women like these" ad in the Weist price guide Anyone have a link or could post this ad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicartcom Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Bronty, there was only one thing wrong with Theo's ad....... everyone I ever knew who tried to sell him something NEVER got his advertised offering Last time Theo tried to buy something from me was about 1995 at SDCC. I had a pulp cover painting at 5k Theo asked if I would take $2500 and worked his way up to $4500 and I still wouldn't sell it to him and he couldn't understand why. He was with one of my best friends in the world who came back a little while later and asked why I was giving him a hard time and I told him a 20 year old story of Theo screwing me for $5 and I would never do business with him since. Theo came back and offered to buy it for my 5k price.. well, I still wouldn't sell it to him. Too bad Theo Wow great story Rich... makes me look at the ad in a whole new light. Did he shaft you for payment on a $5 book or something? he called me collect several times and I wouldn't take his calls. finally - this was when an operator would cut in - the operator let him say he wanted to buy something I had, so I accepted the call. He didn't buy the item, but he promised to send me $5 to cover the call.. He never did. When I saw him at SDCC that year (in the early 80s) I asked for the $5 and he got all indignant. I told him he was a spoonhole and he would never be able to buy from me ever again. in other words, Theo was just a general spoonhole, and I never sold him anything ever again. the moral is..... well hell, if there was a moral there, I didn't know it :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
