spreads Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/8/2021 at 11:29 PM, Batmanis#1 said: I would be a seller if I owned sports cards every last one of them would be sold right now and buy a nice home in a nice place all paid off. Maybe those card guys are saying the same thing about comics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood1892 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 11 hours ago, dikran1 said: This book has always had so much going for it... SEVEN (!!!!) major first appearances? Check. All time classic villain? Check. Number 1? Check. Societal importance? Check. Pop culture relevance? Check. I’ll never stop pumping this book's tires! 😂 Agreed Arguably Magneto is one of the biggest supervillains of all time and in the top 3 in Marvel comics with Doom and Green Goblin. I would say he rivals Joker. I'm not a fan of Professor X, just saying he isn't the most prolific X-Man (that title probably goes to Wolverine) To have that many First Appearances on the SuperTeam is amazing I'd say the book is definitely in the top 5 grails at Marvel 1. AF 15 2. FF 1 3. IH 1 4. X-Men 1 and then you have TOS 39, JIM 83, CA 1 FoggyNelson and badback83 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sweet Lou 14 Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2021 50 minutes ago, Hollywood1892 said: Agreed Arguably Magneto is one of the biggest supervillains of all time and in the top 3 in Marvel comics with Doom and Green Goblin. I would say he rivals Joker. I'm not a fan of Professor X, just saying he isn't the most prolific X-Man (that title probably goes to Wolverine) To have that many First Appearances on the SuperTeam is amazing I'd say the book is definitely in the top 5 grails at Marvel 1. AF 15 2. FF 1 3. IH 1 4. X-Men 1 and then you have TOS 39, JIM 83, CA 1 Captain America Comics #1 (if that's what you're referring to) doesn't even belong in this list. It's in an entirely separate tier in terms of value. KCOComics, WolverineX, Chillax23 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kevlar568 Posted February 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2021 Hello all! first time poster, long time lurker - I’ve been seriously collecting for about 20 years and recently picked up a gorgeous CGC 4.5 - a month ago (I’ll post a picture once I figure out how to!) On the topic of X1’s rank in the SA Marvel hierarchy, I personally feel that X1’s recent explosion is long overdue. While I appreciate and understand the more historical ranking of IH1 over it, I myself feel that the top 3 should probably be FF1, AF15, X1. FF1 is THE first SA “Marvel” book, it kicks off the legendary Kirby/Lee run that transitions Marvel from the atlas/monster era into superheroes, and the level of creativity and influence/characters and concepts that came from the SA FF run can never be overstated. AF15 needs no explanation, obviously Spider-Man is Marvel’s top dog and the sheer amount of books, characters, spin-offs, films/ branding makes Spider-Man arguably a top 3 comic book character period. Now I can understand from a historical/collecting standpoint having IH1 as a top 3 book, but outside of being a little older, perceived scarcity and a tougher dark cover - how does the Hulk character stack up? He’s a Jekyll/Hyde type monster character that helped bridge the gap between the Kirby monster books into the superhero books (along side FF’s Thing/Ben Grimm) with some Cold War atomic flair. The X-men, by comparison have near limitless storytelling possibilities with endless characters and concepts that continue to this day. Hulk has also been nowhere NEAR as popular or as influential as the X-men, where X1 gives you multiple important first appearances, the origin of the entire mutant concept, AND a villain first appearance in Magneto, who has arguably become a top 3 Marvel villain of all time. Think about every mutant character ever made in marvel tracing their origins directly back to X1. Think about every single version of an “X” team tracing its original back to X1. Yeah X-men’s original run was not as popular in the 60s, and it fell into reprints until GSX1, but the concept/brand has only grown larger decade after decade, where Hulk has had some time in the spotlight but is ultimately a lesser creation by comparison. But hey, that’s just my opinion Sweet Lou 14, gadzukes, gino2paulus2 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Kevlar568 said: Hello all! first time poster, long time lurker - I’ve been seriously collecting for about 20 years and recently picked up a gorgeous CGC 4.5 - a month ago (I’ll post a picture once I figure out how to!) On the topic of X1’s rank in the SA Marvel hierarchy, I personally feel that X1’s recent explosion is long overdue. While I appreciate and understand the more historical ranking of IH1 over it, I myself feel that the top 3 should probably be FF1, AF15, X1. FF1 is THE first SA “Marvel” book, it kicks off the legendary Kirby/Lee run that transitions Marvel from the atlas/monster era into superheroes, and the level of creativity and influence/characters and concepts that came from the SA FF run can never be overstated. AF15 needs no explanation, obviously Spider-Man is Marvel’s top dog and the sheer amount of books, characters, spin-offs, films/ branding makes Spider-Man arguably a top 3 comic book character period. Now I can understand from a historical/collecting standpoint having IH1 as a top 3 book, but outside of being a little older, perceived scarcity and a tougher dark cover - how does the Hulk character stack up? He’s a Jekyll/Hyde type monster character that helped bridge the gap between the Kirby monster books into the superhero books (along side FF’s Thing/Ben Grimm) with some Cold War atomic flair. The X-men, by comparison have near limitless storytelling possibilities with endless characters and concepts that continue to this day. Hulk has also been nowhere NEAR as popular or as influential as the X-men, where X1 gives you multiple important first appearances, the origin of the entire mutant concept, AND a villain first appearance in Magneto, who has arguably become a top 3 Marvel villain of all time. Think about every mutant character ever made in marvel tracing their origins directly back to X1. Think about every single version of an “X” team tracing its original back to X1. Yeah X-men’s original run was not as popular in the 60s, and it fell into reprints until GSX1, but the concept/brand has only grown larger decade after decade, where Hulk has had some time in the spotlight but is ultimately a lesser creation by comparison. But hey, that’s just my opinion First off, welcome to the boards. There was a pretty lively debate about this in the "SA comics that are heating up" thread. I'm still a Hulk 1 guy personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dikran Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Oh boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedude Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 7 hours ago, dikran1 said: Oh boy! That's got to be a record, right. I mean, a 1.8 sold for $6,100 just last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spreads Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Wow....those prices are crazy..... KCOComics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dikran Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, thedude said: That's got to be a record, right. I mean, a 1.8 sold for $6,100 just last month. Yup, more than double the last sale of a 1.5 (3700$) from November... wowza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedude Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, dikran1 said: Yup, more than double the last sale of a 1.5 (3700$) from November... wowza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr bla bla Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, thedude said: I need x-1 question is: how im gonna do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dikran Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr bla bla said: I need x-1 question is: how im gonna do it? Time machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr bla bla Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, dikran1 said: Time machine? Or even better: can someone lend me the moolah ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgross.com Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 11 hours ago, dikran1 said: Oh boy! i've never thought comics as a collectible would enter a bubble phase, but if this is not faked, which is certainly possible, i fear we may have entered a bubble. price jumps for sh*t copies like this are totally unsustainable, and make me more fearful of a hard crash. so many collectors will be priced out at this point, it will be impossible to replace them. gino2paulus2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruson Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Not a bubble, there are not enough copies to go around. Look at sports cards, some have over 10,000 on population report and still can get $5000 or more. Comics are much more scarce to find. Expect even more stronger sales. TheBook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 5130 is not a lot of copies. Take away the ten copies @G.A.tor has in stock and the demand > the supply. Plus, many of these 5,130 copies are locked away in collections forever. Even more, there's only 3656 Universal Label copies out there. Edited February 22, 2021 by BlowUpTheMoon greggy is a dork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Or people like this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: Or people like this guy. If those were Pete’s o bought some of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, G.A.tor said: If those were Pete’s o bought some of them Yeah, you're right. I pulled the picture from Facebook and he said he didn't have all of them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post atomised Posted February 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2021 I still have my copy I bought at auction a number of years ago and got a pretty good price on it Pressed it and increased a full grade GregHa, KCOComics, silverseeker and 9 others 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
