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joe_collector

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The best thing that ever happened to Marvel if your a marvel universe fan was that Disney bought Marvel, Disney is notorious for keeping thier characters out of public domain.

 

Why would you say that? The only reason copyright protection is even given, is so that the public may have free access to it after XX years of time. It's a give and take scenario, full protection under the law, paid for by your tax dollars, but with a quid pro quo of losing those rights later on.

 

So when Disney pays off Senators to unethically prolong their terms (like it did with Mickey Mouse) then it becomes a scenario take and take, and take some more.It's like they took the collective American public, and using their tax dollars, kicked them right in the nads.

 

 

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I personally find their "oh, we're a library, so copyright law doesn't apply to us"-statement hilarious - they're completely missing the fact that libraries pay for their items

 

Libraries pay for their books and receive donated books.

 

Presuming the person running the site paid for some books, and received others as donations, how is it any different?

Libraries do not produce digital copies of their books. The entire concept of a "copyright" is that it allows the owners to control how that book is distributed. If they wanted it viewable for free on the internet it would be. Not even counting the fact that the owner of the site most likely does not own all of those books. He downloads them and then posts them on his site, his site which generates ad revenue. It's not like a library at all and he isn't any more protected than your average Demonoid seeder. Just because he has a disclaimer does not make it legally sound.
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The best thing that ever happened to Marvel if your a marvel universe fan was that Disney bought Marvel, Disney is notorious for keeping thier characters out of public domain.

 

Why would you say that? The only reason copyright protection is even given, is so that the public may have free access to it after XX years of time. It's a give and take scenario, full protection under the law, paid for by your tax dollars, but with a quid pro quo of losing those rights later on.

 

So when Disney pays off Senators to unethically prolong their terms (like it did with Mickey Mouse) then it becomes a scenario take and take, and take some more.It's like they took the collective American public, and using their tax dollars, kicked them right in the nads.

 

because a lot of the Marvel zombies fans are going to get very upset once thier sacred characters will start being mass produced by other entities other then Marvel, btw I am all for creator rights, I was thinking about the Marvel Zombie fan`s perspective. (thumbs u

eventually these Marvel characters will become public domain,I just don`t know when now that Disney has a hand in it.

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I personally find their "oh, we're a library, so copyright law doesn't apply to us"-statement hilarious - they're completely missing the fact that libraries pay for their items

 

Libraries pay for their books and receive donated books.

 

Presuming the person running the site paid for some books, and received others as donations, how is it any different?

In that long Newsarama exchange is this:

 

"Since the creation of our library, we have been bombarded by the vendors and publishers of the comic books (i.e. … DC Comics, Marvel Comics, …) which make claim that our Library is an infringement of copyright laws, and must be taken down. We have resisted, and have expressed our position to them.

 

In an effort to reach fair and reasonable agreement, we have sent to their legal departments a letter..."

 

Knowing how aggressive DC/Marvel is, it says something that the website is still around. It may be yanked at sometime, but so far there's some kind of leg and he's standing on it. Otherwise he'd have been toasted immediately,

He also waits a year before he posts stuff, example the latest issues of Spiderman/Batman will not be posted on there.

:baiting: Oh look, green lantern 46, flash rebirth 5, invincible 61, :whistle:

 

the guy is a liar

well I guess he changed his one year policy. :)

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joe_collector

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eventually these Marvel characters will become public domain,I just don`t know when now that Disney has a hand in it.

 

It'll definitely be tougher this time around, as most people know about Disney paying off Senators to push through their "Mickey Mouse Extension" (while other properties went to public domain) so they had better tread very carefully in the current economic climate.

 

Big business scamming the American public would certainly not go over well right now.

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It's kinda like a virtual Geppi Entertainment Museum, except there's no charge to get in and you can read the books. And the only thing you're leaving with are memories.

 

Maybe the DC/Marvel legal eagles concluded why drop the hammer on what is essentially free advertising. It's not a download site and if reading ignites fan's passions maybe they'll go out and buy a statue, dvd, or tpb.

 

Back issues might be great for triggering a buy-response for something current. (shrug)

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bronze_rules

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What JC said makes sense to me (about buying off MM/DIsney Extension); I mean, I'm not a copyright lawyer, but isn't there some period by which the natural copyright expires?

I don't think they are paying to keep it in perpetuity are they?

 

Anyone on the boards that can shed light on this? How long can you hold the rights to a comic work before it is in public domain?

 

Also, it's not much different than google, only, IMO, google had more money behind their conviction.

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dupont2005

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Things created as far back as the early 1920's still have legal copyrights. Public domain is becoming harder and harder to achieve. As long as the property is continued to be used it will never reach public domain. If this is a good thing or a bad thing can be debated, but Wolverine will likely never be public domain, and it would have been that way even before Disney bought Marvel.

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comicwiz

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I personally find their "oh, we're a library, so copyright law doesn't apply to us"-statement hilarious - they're completely missing the fact that libraries pay for their items

 

Libraries pay for their books and receive donated books.

 

Presuming the person running the site paid for some books, and received others as donations, how is it any different?

In that long Newsarama exchange is this:

 

"Since the creation of our library, we have been bombarded by the vendors and publishers of the comic books (i.e. … DC Comics, Marvel Comics, …) which make claim that our Library is an infringement of copyright laws, and must be taken down. We have resisted, and have expressed our position to them.

 

In an effort to reach fair and reasonable agreement, we have sent to their legal departments a letter..."

 

Knowing how aggressive DC/Marvel is, it says something that the website is still around. It may be yanked at sometime, but so far there's some kind of leg and he's standing on it. Otherwise he'd have been toasted immediately,

 

Not suggesting it is ever a good idea to infringe on copyright, but the reality is that there is an entire nation in the East that is quite eager to be hosting for scofflaws. I knew a person who consulted for online projects (mostly gambling sites) which couldn't get off the ground due to strict laws and regulations. Servers end up in Eastern countries or borderless avenues are used (believe it or not, I knew of one project which got hosted on a ship). I don't anticipate cloud computing making this any less complicated from an enforcement standpoint.

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Mr 9.8

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i'm still mad that my work blocked it....weird though...the reason they gave was sexual site

 

is there porn or something on that site I was not aware of ???

They may mean some of the HEAVY METAL issues as well as [font:Century Gothic]TAROT: Witch Of The Black Rose [/font] . :o
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i'm still mad that my work blocked it....weird though...the reason they gave was sexual site

 

is there porn or something on that site I was not aware of ???

They may mean some of the HEAVY METAL issues as well as [font:Century Gothic]TAROT: Witch Of The Black Rose [/font] . :o

 

well its still carp! lol

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