Jaydogrules Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 39 minutes ago, Gotham Kid said: A 1.0 ( although with some tape iirc) sold for 30K on ebay not too long ago. Can anyone check if it was reported to GPA ? Not sure CC copy will surpass its previous result. Edit: ebay 1.0 same copy referenced by Dean The 2.0 brittle is up on Bob Storms' site with a 39K price tag. Since this book last sold, according to GPA there are two sales. A copy with "white pages" on the label sold for $26k, and then the $30k copy on eBay which has a completely split spine that was taped up. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 18 hours ago, lou_fine said: What makes you say this? For example, in a follow-up CC auction only a few months later, an equivalently CGC 1.0 graded copy of 'Tec 31 sold for something like $17K lower: http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?referral=EAlist&id=667399&title=DETECTIVECOMICS And in only a few short months after that, a CGC 2.0 graded copy (with Brittle pages) sold for even lower than the CGC 1.0 graded copy: http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?referral=EAlist&id=691089&title=DETECTIVECOMICS Because this copy has nice supple pages compared to the brittle pages the other two sold for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 5 hours ago, Dark Knight said: Because this copy has nice supple pages compared to the brittle pages the other two sold for. The fly in the ointment is still the one that sold for $26k with "white pages" on the label after this one.... -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Jaydogrules said: 6 hours ago, Dark Knight said: Because this copy has nice supple pages compared to the brittle pages the other two sold for. The fly in the ointment is still the one that sold for $26k with "white pages" on the label after this one.... -J. Actually, I think this only goes to confirm DK's point about the supple pages as I believe there's a well respected esteemed board member here who places White Pages at the bottom of the PQ scale when it comes impact on valuation. Edited July 14, 2017 by lou_fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 48 minutes ago, lou_fine said: Actually, I think this only goes to confirm DK's point about the supple pages as I believe there's a well respected esteemed board member here who places White Pages at the bottom of the PQ scale when it comes impact on valuation. Well the one with "white pages" on the label went for significantly less than this one, so what to make of that.... -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopKulture Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 On 6/13/2017 at 10:22 PM, Gotham Kid said: Congrats - twenty-nine times over. What a true gem. I may be in the bare minority, but I've always preferred this over 31. Lurking over a castle is great n all, but more the Spectre's deal: kicking butt suits Batman more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, PopKulture said: Congrats - twenty-nine times over. What a true gem. I may be in the bare minority, but I've always preferred this over 31. Lurking over a castle is great n all, but more the Spectre's deal: kicking butt suits Batman more! Based upon auction results the past few months, I would have to say the marketplace is slowly also starting to come around to your line of thinking as prices have indeed increased sharply on the 'Tec 29 offerings as of late. This is especially evident with the nicely presenting relative to its assigned CGC 3.0 graded copy that sold for $66K in the CC auction back in March of this year. Edited July 14, 2017 by lou_fine PopKulture 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopKulture Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, lou_fine said: Based upon auction results the past few months, I would have to say the marketplace is slowly also starting to come around to your line of thinking as prices had indeed increased sharply on the 'Tec 29 offerings as of late. I remember both covers were in Richard O'Briens "Golden Age of Comic Books" book (which featured a slew of full-size cover reproductions), so each was noteworthy enough forty years ago to be considered classic. Both are withstanding the test of time. That book was a great predictor of what books would remain classics - Action 7, Fantastic 3, both Wonderworld's, Whiz 22 (Gator?), and a bunch more, including some nice Eisner and Fine. Some have fallen out of favor like the Raboys, but that may be because they're not turning over as much? Target 7 was in there; Green Giant, some great Centaurs, but no Timely's (I don't think they got permission from Marvel). Action 52 was featured, Green Lantern 1, Wonder Woman 1, Detective 1 - some killer books! A cool pick-up for anyone's reference library that doesn't already have it. Edited July 14, 2017 by PopKulture lou_fine and sacentaur 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I don't recall this being discussed on here, but GPA is reporting a sale of an 8.0 Tec 33 in March, 2017, for $150k. If I'm not mistaken, that was a sale through Metropolis. That is simply astounding. I'm also seeing a 6.0, Tec 31 selling for $175k in March, 2017, and a 7.5 Tec 35 for $119k in Feb, 2017. Also, a restored, coverless, married, incomplete copy of Tec 33 just went of just shy of $2k the other day on eBay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/DETECTIVE-COMICS-33-CGC-NG-Cream-to-Off-White-Coverless-Incomplete-Origin-BATMAN-/192245369064?hash=item2cc2b788e8%3Ag%3AW08AAOSwu59ZZXqt&nma=true&si=iFZRySQ5y%2FIXXG0HfR%2Fz791DLhQ%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 These books have simply exploded this year. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Jaydogrules said: I don't recall this being discussed on here, but GPA is reporting a sale of an 8.0 Tec 33 in March, 2017, for $150k. If I'm not mistaken, that was a sale through Metropolis. That is simply astounding. I'm also seeing a 6.0, Tec 31 selling for $175k in March, 2017, and a 7.5 Tec 35 for $119k in Feb, 2017. Correct. 33 8.0 @ Metro, 35 7.5 @ Heritage. The 31 6.0 was not sold on the big 3 so curious where it was sold at. I recall the scan, lovely copy. Edited July 20, 2017 by Gotham Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 On 7/7/2017 at 10:10 PM, Action252Kid said: Just a head's up to whoever bought the Detective 35 Jerry Robinson copy off of eBay earlier today for $7500. It was sold using the same title/scans/description as when Sparkle City sold it several years ago (you can copy/paste the title of the listing into Google, and it will bring up the prior sale). The guy's feedback looks somewhat legit, but it definitely fits the typical model that these scammers have been pulling on eBay (lifted pics/description, non-comic seller, underpriced but not 'so' underpriced that it raises suspicion). So if anyone here bought it, I'd just be cautious and stay on the case if the seller has any delays in shipping or anything fishy goes on. Nice head's up on this one. Anyone know if the sale went through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 On 7/19/2017 at 11:06 PM, Gotham Kid said: Correct. 33 8.0 @ Metro, 35 7.5 @ Heritage. The 31 6.0 was not sold on the big 3 so curious where it was sold at. I recall the scan, lovely copy. It's nice to see (and overdue, yet ultimatly inevitable) 33 close the gap with 29 and 31 (to a lesser extent) over the last year. Classic gun holster cover, 1930s Batman, first origin, first Martha and Thomas Wayne, first Joe Chill. Can't beat that. (Unless of course, you have them all! ) -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) I knew it looked familiar. No words. Really. Sold 3/1/2017 at auction on ComicLink. Here it is, this time graded by the other guys. http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=725876 Yeah, ok. Edited July 25, 2017 by Gotham Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny545 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Gotham Kid said: I knew it looked familiar. No words. Really. Sold 3/1/2017 at auction on ComicLink. Here it is, this time graded by the other guys. http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=725876 Yeah, ok. A real blow to their credibility. Not good... Gotham Kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Boy Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 The Boards Giveth......the Boards Taketh Away......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woowoo Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 11 hours ago, Gotham Kid said: I knew it looked familiar. No words. Really. Sold 3/1/2017 at auction on ComicLink. Here it is, this time graded by the other guys. http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=725876 Yeah, ok. Peter it does look more like a 3.0 than a 1.8 I would hope you agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacentaur Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 1 hour ago, woowoo said: Peter it does look more like a 3.0 than a 1.8 I would hope you agree. The book has tape, so if CGC ignored the tape and took into account the seen defects (e.g., splitting of the spine due to brittleness) then the 1.8 is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woowoo Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, sacentaur said: The book has tape, so if CGC ignored the tape and took into account the seen defects (e.g., splitting of the spine due to brittleness) then the 1.8 is accurate. I would only agree if there was splitting from wraps and cover from brittleness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr bla bla Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 23 hours ago, Johnny545 said: A real blow to their credibility. Not good... Whose credibility ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny545 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, Mr bla bla said: Whose credibility ... You can pretend you don't know, but this is why some refuse to buy books in the other holders - a fear they are overgraded. That may not be true, but when this happens on a bigger, higher profile book it reinforces that perception. I understand that you are saying perhaps cgc was too harsh grading the book, but a grading company will survive even with a perception they grade tightly - conservative grading would be comforting to most collectors and occasionally annoy some who think their book should have graded higher (an unavoidable issue for any grading company - can't please everyone). A perception you are too loose or sloppy is tough to unwind, if that perception sticks you have a serious issue, buyers stay away, sales for the same book, in the same grade suffer, this reinforces the perception no one "trusts" the grade and the spiral continues. I'd explain what happened here if I were them, there may be very good arguments explaining what if anything changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
