Speaking of a Special Grading Category...What grade is this MTU????

[Rickdogg]

Yup cgc messed up on this one. I just threw it into my 25c box

[greggy]

I will reserve my comments for the next time the Jayhawks blow another game. Should be the next one!

[drbanner]

Both of these are 9.2's, WTF??? Ricky's book has overall wear and the discoloration/less than bright colors. Greggy's book looks nice and fresh but those edge crease look like killers to me, which should put both of these in the VF- to VF range. Greggy's book leads me to believe that CGC does not deduct the same amount for a 1/4" edge crease as they do for a 1/4" corner crease, an observation I've made before. Or, we could simply be looking at 2 examples of +2 standard deviations (on the left side of the bell curve) from the average 9.2

[fantastic_four]

Greggy's book leads me to believe that CGC does not deduct the same amount for a 1/4" edge crease as they do for a 1/4" corner crease, an observation I've made before.

I've noticed the same thing at times, but they seem somewhat inconsistent with that. Here are two conflicting grades with edge creases:

A CGC 9.2 Spidey 42

with a 1" crease on the bottom edge (begins just left of the letter "O" in "Super-Hero!" and ends just right of the exclamation point) that would definitely be an 7.5 or 8.0 were it on the corner

 

A CGC 8.5 Spidey 49

with a 1" thumb crease on the top edge above the "n" in "Amazing" (this is the same book I posted a "what's the grade" thread on a few months ago).

I agree with the second grade, but not the first one. The two Marvel Team-Ups appear to be similar to my Spidey 42 in being slightly overgraded.

 

I guess I can see downgrading slightly less for an edge crease, especially the one on the Spidey 42; it runs almost parallel to the edge and is harder to see than a 45-degree angle corner crease. But I can't see downgrading MUCH less for it, since a 1" corner crease would bring it down to the 8.0 range.

[Gorgo]

"slightly overgraded"!!!!! Folks, all the evaluation & rationalization in the world cannot explain these grades. Plain & simple, these books missed the grade completely. A lot of e-bayers intentionally put small scans up & sell these like hotcakes! The question is; why/how does CGC miss these defects with all their microscopes & equipment, and who is getting this treatment (if it is preferential treatment), or does it really matter? Precisely why I haven't used CGC since July. Check out this TOS #63 (a CGC 9.6) and tell me this isn't an 8.0! I nearly found myself bidding on this book. And it's not the sellers fault (a great seller).

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2150465577&category=32744

[Guest]

Maybe that book was damaged in the holder (although I'm not sure if that would account for that color breaking spine stress?) If not that's a significant overgrade.

[greggy]

WTF was what I said when I compared the books that I received with the grades that you assigned!

 

Well, we'll see how the 9.2 that I bought recently turns out! Perhaps a 3rd scan is in order?

[fantastic_four]

Whoa, that definitely is the most overgraded CGC 9.6 I've ever seen. Just listing the visible defects out without seeing the scan could tell you that:

 

• 1/8" color-breaking corner crease
• 3 color-breaking 1/16" to 1/8" spine stresses
• one 1/16" color-breaking crease on right edge

EEEK!

[drbanner]

Well, we'll see how the 9.2 that I bought recently turns out!

 

It hasn't shown up yet? Or are you planning to flip it via CGC? I don't need CGC to tell me what the grade is, do you???

[greggy]

Yo, I bought a CGC 9.2! Damn Gator's mind is still in the clouds after a win over an overrated team!

[drbanner]

Oops...I thought you were talking about the NM- (aka 9.2) Marvel Premiere 15. Anyhowser, a shame your boys were brought back to earth by the mighty SEC, and I notice you have a game this weekend against a strong-looking 5-1 FSU team..Hmm, who did they lose to I wonder!

[Bonds25]

It might not be a 9.6, but I'll take all your VF 8.0s that look like that.

[Rickdogg]

Called CGC for grader notes which are worthless IMO. This is how the grading broke down:

 

Primary Grader: 9.2

Grader: 9.0

Finalizer: 9.2

 

If this thing was resubmitted, it would most likely receive a 9.0 Just a case of borderline grading.

[greggy]

They probably lost to a worst team than the Stanford team that reached the pre-season NIT finals.