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combiner1

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Is there any reason why this book is that hot?? A ratio of 1:100 should be just $100 after a week not x7??? First appearance?? Major death?? First artist cover?? First “spider-wang”??? (DC done it why not Marvel)

 

im asking since I passed on this regular book last week.......

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1 hour ago, combiner1 said:

Is there any reason why this book is that hot?? A ratio of 1:100 should be just $100 after a week not x7??? First appearance?? Major death?? First artist cover?? First “spider-wang”??? (DC done it why not Marvel)

 

im asking since I passed on this regular book last week.......

"Spider-Wang" has already been done. People seem to forget that Marvel actually did it first. Check out the formerly "heating up on Ebay" series Spider-Man: Reign.  I'm surprised that mini doesn't get more attention

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It's heating up because people are claiming its "the cover of the decade" and others are jumping on that bandwagon because of its look and 1:100 status.  IMO, it's a decent cover but nothing to rave about when there's been lots of great covers lately with a lot being better than this.

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3 hours ago, combiner1 said:

Is there any reason why this book is that hot?? A ratio of 1:100 should be just $100 after a week not x7??? First appearance?? Major death?? First artist cover?? First “spider-wang”??? (DC done it why not Marvel)

 

im asking since I passed on this regular book last week.......

It's simply pump and dump by a certain group. And the fact that everyone seems to be calling this book "rare" makes me rethink what the definition of rare is. lol.

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16 minutes ago, Keys_Collector said:

It's heating up because people are claiming its "the cover of the decade" and others are jumping on that bandwagon because of its look and 1:100 status.  IMO, it's a decent cover but nothing to rave about when there's been lots of great covers lately with a lot being better than this.

Actually, the narrative that was being pushed by the usual suspects (and, oddly, even before the book was released) was that it was (going to be) super "rare".  Nevermind that it was available for pre-order weeks in advance and had plenty of them, or that it was going to be a number one issue, or that it would be the official re-naming of a character Marvel is really pushing, or that there were going to be multiple store variants also released to skew the ratio lower than normal than other legit 1:100's with no store variants- this one was going to be "rare". Really, really "rare".  That caused some initial high sales.  Then enter the shillers, a steady stream of  fake buy it nows to create the pre-ordained "buzz" and "voila!". Seasoned dealers and collectors saw this coming a mile away and know exactly what is happening and what will happen.  Now that Ebay has been flooded with dozens of copies over the last couple of days and squelched any talk of "rarity", maybe there will be an attempt to change the narrative to how great the cover is to rationalize all the fishy sales.  Haven't really seen that just yet though..

-J.

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2 hours ago, Jaydogrules said:

Actually, the narrative that was being pushed by the usual suspects (and, oddly, even before the book was released) was that it was (going to be) super "rare".  Nevermind that it was available for pre-order weeks in advance and had plenty of them, or that it was going to be a number one issue, or that it would be the official re-naming of a character Marvel is really pushing, or that there were going to be multiple store variants also released to skew the ratio lower than normal than other legit 1:100's with no store variants- this one was going to be "rare". Really, really "rare".  That caused some initial high sales.  Then enter the shillers, a steady stream of  fake buy it nows to create the pre-ordained "buzz" and "voila!". Seasoned dealers and collectors saw this coming a mile away and know exactly what is happening and what will happen.  Now that Ebay has been flooded with dozens of copies over the last couple of days and squelched any talk of "rarity", maybe there will be an attempt to change the narrative to how great the cover is to rationalize all the fishy sales.  Haven't really seen that just yet though..

-J.

I do believe that that is the case with ALL variant covers that have no particular book significance nor "rarity" attributes (recalls or errors). It's always easy to say "that's a hot cover, so that's the reason why". But there are many many "hot" ratio covers that would never get remotely close to silly high prices. 

Its always hype. If it wasn't for hype, half the keys out there wouldn't be where they are.

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28 minutes ago, Aweandlorder said:

I do believe that that is the case with ALL variant covers that have no particular book significance nor "rarity" attributes (recalls or errors). It's always easy to say "that's a hot cover, so that's the reason why". But there are many many "hot" ratio covers that would never get remotely close to silly high prices. 

Its always hype. If it wasn't for hype, half the keys out there wouldn't be where they are.

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3 hours ago, Keys_Collector said:

It's heating up because people are claiming its "the cover of the decade" and others are jumping on that bandwagon because of its look and 1:100 status.  IMO, it's a decent cover but nothing to rave about when there's been lots of great covers lately with a lot being better than this.

I packaged my Spider-man Reign #1 with Damned #1 when I sold the latter.

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8 hours ago, Jaydogrules said:

Actually, the narrative that was being pushed by the usual suspects (and, oddly, even before the book was released) was that it was (going to be) super "rare".  Nevermind that it was available for pre-order weeks in advance and had plenty of them, or that it was going to be a number one issue, or that it would be the official re-naming of a character Marvel is really pushing, or that there were going to be multiple store variants also released to skew the ratio lower than normal than other legit 1:100's with no store variants- this one was going to be "rare". Really, really "rare".  That caused some initial high sales.  Then enter the shillers, a steady stream of  fake buy it nows to create the pre-ordained "buzz" and "voila!". Seasoned dealers and collectors saw this coming a mile away and know exactly what is happening and what will happen.  Now that Ebay has been flooded with dozens of copies over the last couple of days and squelched any talk of "rarity", maybe there will be an attempt to change the narrative to how great the cover is to rationalize all the fishy sales.  Haven't really seen that just yet though..

-J.

Proof?

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On 10/29/2018 at 7:42 AM, bababooey said:

His response about working in a comic store was in reference to your points about quantities.  Scroll up and read back if you can't remember what you were talking about. 2c

On 10/29/2018 at 9:28 AM, ygogolak said:

 

 

OP: "Cover is probably the best..."
SB: "That's hype, not fact."

Me: "That's opinion, not fact."

Still waiting for a response about how many store variants there are to skew the numbers.

:popcorn:

 

On 10/30/2018 at 9:42 AM, Jaydogrules said:

Actually, the narrative that was being pushed by the usual suspects (and, oddly, even before the book was released) was that it was (going to be) super "rare".  Nevermind that it was available for pre-order weeks in advance and had plenty of them, or that it was going to be a number one issue, or that it would be the official re-naming of a character Marvel is really pushing, or that there were going to be multiple store variants also released to skew the ratio lower than normal than other legit 1:100's with no store variants- this one was going to be "rare". Really, really "rare".  That caused some initial high sales.  Then enter the shillers, a steady stream of  fake buy it nows to create the pre-ordained "buzz" and "voila!". Seasoned dealers and collectors saw this coming a mile away and know exactly what is happening and what will happen.  Now that Ebay has been flooded with dozens of copies over the last couple of days and squelched any talk of "rarity", maybe there will be an attempt to change the narrative to how great the cover is to rationalize all the fishy sales.  Haven't really seen that just yet though..

-J.

On 10/30/2018 at 5:47 PM, ygogolak said:

Proof?

:popcorn::popcorn:

 

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This is my week in review (and if I miss a few things forgive me I'm clearly writing this off the top of my head): 

I think the big news of the week is that Wonder Woman 1984 Writer David Callaham is Now writing a film For Marvel Studios.  There's been a ton of speculation about what this as yet undisclosed project is and that has driven sales on a number of items from Dark Avengers (New Avengers 49, Dark Avengers), to Young Avengers.  Clearly, your guess is as good as mine and I have a lot of curiosity, but no real great ideas about this forthcoming project.  

The book Rags stayed hot with the 2nd print foil cover getting big numbers on eBay.  Similarly, there was a lot of interest in Road of the Dead Highway to Hell and both Punchline covers (apparently a lot of those books were damages in certain parts of the country (mine) and there was a really short print run on that book.  Outer Darkness and Transdimensional both sold out at my local shops and were well received in my area.  It is becoming axiomatic, but the DC cover B's sold well with the Aquaman Justice League cover and Green Lantern cover leading the way for Deathstroke and Batman.    

We saw a little bit of action with casting decisions for the forthcoming Swamp Thing DC Streaming series drive sales on Swamp Things books (e.g., "Kevin Durand is in the midst of negotiations to play Jason Woodrue (the first appearance run down is as follows Jason Woodrue, The Atom #1 (not a modern book or cheap); fFirst appearance as Floronic Man is The Flash (vol. 1) #245 (same); and his first appearance The Seeder is Swamp Thing #21 which is an Allen Moore origin issue that is kinda pricey); similarly, Wll Paton was cast as Avery Sunderland and his first appearance is Saga of the Swamp Thing 5 (1982). 
A television series based on the DC Vertigo comic book series Survivors' Club is apparently being developed for the CW and similarly it looks like Grant Morrison is adapting The Invisibles as part of a deal with Universal who is responsible for getting Happy made driving sales and interest in both titles.  

Since I'm talking about TV/Film news, I get excited about every little bit of news I hear about the upcoming HBO Watchmen show.  It's been reported that Jeremy Irons joined the cast, but the website slashfilm reports that he is playing Ozymandias,and it looks like Legion and Fargo star Jean Smarthas has joined the cast as an FBI agent.

Donine Cates apparently tweeted some ambiguous reference to Eddie [Brock] having a sister driving interest in Nova #6, Eddie Brock's younger sister, and Dark Origin #1

the older sister (not sure if there's one sister and poor continuity or two sisters but lord knows I don't care enough to figure that out.  People are buying them so I thought I would mention it.  

Last but not least - the Walking Dead show has time jumped and baby Judith is older (maybe 7 years old or so).  There is renewed interest in her issues of the Walking Dead.  She first appears in Walking Dead 39 with the surrounding issues being the birth issues.  

I'm sure there's a bunch of other stuff but that is all that I can remember ... Thoughts?

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15 hours ago, Jaydogrules said:

How about shill bidder r**a (25) running around shilling up just about every auction for the dozens of copies now available on ebay.  For starters...

-J.

How do you "bid up" a BIN? Which is what you claimed. Fake BIN pre-sales.

 

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Rags #1 pre-AP version still hot. I'm selling another copy (lowest grade of the ones I had with a clear CBC on the spine) and it's at $360 with 3 days left to go. That's also the highest price so far other than the Lim variant.

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