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5 minutes ago, awakeintheashes said:

 Green Lantern #54

WomaninRefrigerator.jpg 

Sad to say this but with nothing on the cgc label? Maybe a lot of collectors don't know about it, I had heard of it but didn't seek it out...

I assume we mean green lantern #54 from the first series?

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3 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

Sad to say this but with nothing on the cgc label? Maybe a lot of collectors don't know about it, I had heard of it but didn't seek it out...

I assume we mean green lantern #54 from the first series?

Volume 3 (1990-2005)

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Thx guys! @Lazyboy @awakeintheashes Now I remember that panel; that run was an LCS pull for me back in the day but I no longer have it. Was there hullabaloo around its release at the time? Other than eBay shopping, I wasn't doing much else online in the hobby at that time, so I surely missed any discussion at the time.

While it's a shocking panel, the Lois story is pretty much 12 pages of various graphic violence. (I was able to pick it up). I read that Tom King was trying to convey what goes through Superman's head when he is away from Lois and worrying, but the execution was more akin to a slasher film than a suspense thriller, which could have conveyed the concept more eloquently than overt violence. I think it's the implication/expectation that they are "safe for all ages" titles that is at the root of upset folks' upsetness. 

But I will now watch dollar bins for GL 54; I need to reread that and recall that panel in context. Thanks!

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From what I read some parents are upset because they had been buying them for their kids to read and up till now
they really weren't that bad. 

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So it still isn't a recalled issue lol

I'm sure most of the copies are already bought off the shelves by now from all walmarts... (shrug)

 

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On ‎1‎/‎4‎/‎2019 at 2:08 PM, ygogolak said:

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Nice Face Palm GoGo, I'm with ya Bro! GoGo's the Man! If GoGo thinks you deserve a Face Palm. Then you deserve it! 

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43 minutes ago, Readcomix said:

Thx guys! @Lazyboy @awakeintheashes Now I remember that panel; that run was an LCS pull for me back in the day but I no longer have it. Was there hullabaloo around its release at the time? Other than eBay shopping, I wasn't doing much else online in the hobby at that time, so I surely missed any discussion at the time.

While it's a shocking panel, the Lois story is pretty much 12 pages of various graphic violence. (I was able to pick it up). I read that Tom King was trying to convey what goes through Superman's head when he is away from Lois and worrying, but the execution was more akin to a slasher film than a suspense thriller, which could have conveyed the concept more eloquently than overt violence. I think it's the implication/expectation that they are "safe for all ages" titles that is at the root of upset folks' upsetness. 

But I will now watch dollar bins for GL 54; I need to reread that and recall that panel in context. Thanks!

This pretty much sums it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Refrigerators

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11 hours ago, awakeintheashes said:

 Green Lantern #54

WomaninRefrigerator.jpg 

It's the subject of essays, maybe a book or two and a new TV series on Hulu or Amazon.  I don't remember.  It's one of the major references for all of the identity politics  comicsgate stuff.  It's worth a google search, but not something I've spent any considerable amount of time reading about.  Gail Simone wrote about it and has become the face of  "women in refrigerators" as a rallying cry for gender politics and comics.  It's interesting to me personally because it is something I remember being asked about in college by someone who knew that I loved comics. I remember a girl I "dated" in undergrad back in the day had a women's studies professor.who talked about it in class and she wanted me to talk to her about it.  I think there may have been an academic journal article or two written about it 15 years ago.  My point is that while that regular cover is as common as any book from that era, the DCU variants are super rare in high grade.  I think the regular cover should be a $20 book not a $2 book, and the DCU variant should be a $200 book not a $20 book, and the market will self correct that at some point.  Notice all of the discussion about the issue here.  It's an important part of comic history no matter whether you think it was an example of systemic violence perpetrated against women by the comics industry and indicative or a pattern of male misogyny or a historical example of self proclaimed feminists being a victim by choice to advance an unhealthy personal political agenda.  My two cents.   

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DC Universe Variant for anyone wondering.

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6 minutes ago, Nico Esq said:

It's the subject of essays, maybe a book or two and a new TV series on Hulu or Amazon.  I don't remember.  It's one of the major references for all of the identity politics  comicsgate stuff.  It's worth a google search, but not something I've spent any considerable amount of time reading about.  Gail Simone wrote about it and has become the face of  "women in refrigerators" as a rallying cry for gender politics and comics.  It's interesting to me personally because it is something I remember being asked about in college by someone who knew that I loved comics. I remember a girl I "dated" in undergrad back in the day had a women's studies professor.who talked about it in class and she wanted me to talk to her about it.  I think there may have been an academic journal article or two written about it 15 years ago.  My point is that while that regular cover is as common as any book from that era, the DCU variants are super rare in high grade.  I think the regular cover should be a $20 book not a $2 book, and the DCU variant should be a $200 book not a $20 book, and the market will self correct that at some point.  Notice all of the discussion about the issue here.  It's an important part of comic history no matter whether you think it was an example of systemic violence perpetrated against women by the comics industry and indicative or a pattern of male misogyny or a historical example of self proclaimed feminists being a victim by choice to advance an unhealthy personal political agenda.  My two cents.   

This pretty much sums it up. It's been a point of conversation for a while. I think that long term it's a good book to have. Not saying it's going to reach astronomical prices, but it's relevant to a larger social conversation that's still happening today. The reason for its relevancy in the history of comics is beyond most of the movie/variant-cover spec folks, so it'll take longer to realize certain prices.

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10 minutes ago, awakeintheashes said:

This pretty much sums it up. It's been a point of conversation for a while. I think that long term it's a good book to have. Not saying it's going to reach astronomical prices, but it's relevant to a larger social conversation that's still happening today. The reason for its relevancy in the history of comics is beyond most of the movie/variant-cover spec folks, so it'll take longer to realize certain prices.

But I want the 1:100 Miles Morehamous cover damnit!  lol

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I can remember reading GL 54 when it came out and wondering how that got through the editorial process.

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12 hours ago, Readcomix said:

Thx guys! @Lazyboy @awakeintheashes Now I remember that panel; that run was an LCS pull for me back in the day but I no longer have it. Was there hullabaloo around its release at the time? Other than eBay shopping, I wasn't doing much else online in the hobby at that time, so I surely missed any discussion at the time.

While it's a shocking panel, the Lois story is pretty much 12 pages of various graphic violence. (I was able to pick it up). I read that Tom King was trying to convey what goes through Superman's head when he is away from Lois and worrying, but the execution was more akin to a slasher film than a suspense thriller, which could have conveyed the concept more eloquently than overt violence. I think it's the implication/expectation that they are "safe for all ages" titles that is at the root of upset folks' upsetness. 

But I will now watch dollar bins for GL 54; I need to reread that and recall that panel in context. Thanks!

Is DC stupid? Seriously, not the venue for that story. The purpose of these books at Sal.art is disposable entertainment for kids, not a psychological journey for 40 year old men. Sell those in a comic shop with a for mature audiences label. They have probably killed the Wal-Mart deal now.

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13 hours ago, Readcomix said:

Thx guys! @Lazyboy @awakeintheashes Now I remember that panel; that run was an LCS pull for me back in the day but I no longer have it. Was there hullabaloo around its release at the time? Other than eBay shopping, I wasn't doing much else online in the hobby at that time, so I surely missed any discussion at the time.

While it's a shocking panel, the Lois story is pretty much 12 pages of various graphic violence. (I was able to pick it up). I read that Tom King was trying to convey what goes through Superman's head when he is away from Lois and worrying, but the execution was more akin to a slasher film than a suspense thriller, which could have conveyed the concept more eloquently than overt violence. I think it's the implication/expectation that they are "safe for all ages" titles that is at the root of upset folks' upsetness. 

But I will now watch dollar bins for GL 54; I need to reread that and recall that panel in context. Thanks!

In 1999 gail Simone made a lot of stink about the woman in the fridge trope and it became a discussed issue, so years after gl 54. Ironically, deadpool 2 was attacked for that. The idea, I think, is folks being irritated that the murder/rape/torture of women is used as a plot motivation device for male characters, as if what matters most is how this impacts the guy. Obviously they switch genders now and then, but it is usually the upset guy and dead woman.

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Even in kill bill uma was arguably just as much seeking revenge for what was done to her vs. Her husband. And getting her kid.

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Did the Light Stay On when Lois was in there?...and What Happened to all the Groceries and Shelves.?  I mean Continuity is important in Snuff Panels.  In Bizzaro World he would have Stuffed her in the microwave...

 

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2 hours ago, Nico Esq said:

 It's an important part of comic history no matter whether you think it was an example of systemic violence perpetrated against women by the comics industry and indicative or a pattern of male misogyny or a historical example of self proclaimed feminists being a victim by choice to advance an unhealthy personal political agenda.  

I think the reason for the low value is the same reason that people got upset...it was a meaningless death that just served to move the comic along without real substance. So there is no real need to read the comic itself, which is why people got upset...the woman's death and mutilation are inconsequential really.

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2 hours ago, Nico Esq said:

It's the subject of essays, maybe a book or two and a new TV series on Hulu or Amazon.  I don't remember.  It's one of the major references for all of the identity politics  comicsgate stuff.  It's worth a google search, but not something I've spent any considerable amount of time reading about.  Gail Simone wrote about it and has become the face of  "women in refrigerators" as a rallying cry for gender politics and comics.  It's interesting to me personally because it is something I remember being asked about in college by someone who knew that I loved comics. I remember a girl I "dated" in undergrad back in the day had a women's studies professor.who talked about it in class and she wanted me to talk to her about it.  I think there may have been an academic journal article or two written about it 15 years ago.  My point is that while that regular cover is as common as any book from that era, the DCU variants are super rare in high grade.  I think the regular cover should be a $20 book not a $2 book, and the DCU variant should be a $200 book not a $20 book, and the market will self correct that at some point.  Notice all of the discussion about the issue here.  It's an important part of comic history no matter whether you think it was an example of systemic violence perpetrated against women by the comics industry and indicative or a pattern of male misogyny or a historical example of self proclaimed feminists being a victim by choice to advance an unhealthy personal political agenda.  My two cents.   

I think one of the questions here is whether there is a large crossover of fans that collect/pay a premium for books and those that care about gender politics. My hunch is there isn't a huge crossover (which would explain the lack of value), but that could be wrong.

Then again, books like this might be sought after like those mentioned in SOTI.

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