Bosco685 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Over Under the end of 2011 we will have a Wolverine 35 in 9.8. I want answers If I had the time, I just might be able to pull it off..... It will have to wait until 2012 for me Not with all those boxes you have. Give yourself time to search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWatson Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Over Under the end of 2011 we will have a Wolverine 35 in 9.8. I want answers If I had the time, I just might be able to pull it off..... It will have to wait until 2012 for me I bet there's one with that Mass Avengers 195. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpComics.com Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Over Under the end of 2011 we will have a Wolverine 35 in 9.8. I want answers If I had the time, I just might be able to pull it off..... It will have to wait until 2012 for me I bet there's one with that Mass Avengers 195. The wolvie would not be with the avengers...... Peds don't mingle well with my common drek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The entire print run was like this. It's also not the only book printed this way. There may be a small handful that don't have these tears, but it's not likely. How does that even happen where the ENTIRE print run has that exact same defect of a few rips in the corner? What was the print run for that book? I don't know a heck of a lot about printing but that just strikes me as a odd defect for the entire print run to have There have been issues found without the printing defect, but their condition prevented 9.8 grading for other reasons. If there are scattered copies out there without the defect, this book will show up in a 9.8 holder sooner than you think. If. No one's managed to post a scan of a "without the defect" copy yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 If there are scattered copies out there without the defect, this book will show up in a 9.8 holder sooner than you think. Especially after all this discussion about how tough it is to track one down, you know there is a strong chance for this to happen soon. Remember three years ago when boardies were saying we would never see more than a few GI Joe 21's in 9.8 when that book was going for $2,000-$2,500? Peasofcrap sold his for $,2000 or more when he was just the third one in the census, and there was talk of spine stress from production at that time. As was mentioned already, Joe #21 did NOT have the production flaws that would keep it out of 9.8. Those who "talked of spine stress from production" didn't know what they were talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 If there are scattered copies out there without the defect, this book will show up in a 9.8 holder sooner than you think. Especially after all this discussion about how tough it is to track one down, you know there is a strong chance for this to happen soon. Remember three years ago when boardies were saying we would never see more than a few GI Joe 21's in 9.8 when that book was going for $2,000-$2,500? Peasofcrap sold his for $,2000 or more when he was just the third one in the census, and there was talk of spine stress from production at that time. As was mentioned already, Joe #21 did NOT have the production flaws that would keep it out of 9.8. Those who "talked of spine stress from production" didn't know what they were talking about. Exactly my point! And the census proved this out. In the case of Wolverine 35, there is no doubt it does have such flaws. But there is a strong possibility there will be a 9.8 found if CGC recognizes even the slightest stress line was part of the production run, and those with minor imperfections will be considered the best of the lot. CGC adjusts its grading every once in a while to account for such things, rather than grading everything the same way. After all this discussion, I would be surprised if CGC doesn't take note of the flaw (if they haven't already). Has anyone called CGC and spoke with a grader about this book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 If there are scattered copies out there without the defect, this book will show up in a 9.8 holder sooner than you think. Especially after all this discussion about how tough it is to track one down, you know there is a strong chance for this to happen soon. Remember three years ago when boardies were saying we would never see more than a few GI Joe 21's in 9.8 when that book was going for $2,000-$2,500? Peasofcrap sold his for $,2000 or more when he was just the third one in the census, and there was talk of spine stress from production at that time. As was mentioned already, Joe #21 did NOT have the production flaws that would keep it out of 9.8. Those who "talked of spine stress from production" didn't know what they were talking about. Exactly my point! And the census proved this out. In the case of Wolverine 35, there is no doubt it does have such flaws. But there is a strong possibility there will be a 9.8 found if CGC recognizes even the slightest stress line was part of the production run, and those with minor imperfections will be considered the best of the lot. CGC adjusts its grading every once in a while to account for such things, rather than grading everything the same way. After all this discussion, I would be surprised if CGC doesn't take note of the flaw (if they haven't already). Has anyone called CGC and spoke with a grader about this book? I have and the quick word was some of these defects are too severe. I would imagine if you find on with one small tear or srease it might be treated like a bindery tear at that point. have not found one yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I have and the quick word was some of these defects are too severe. I would imagine if you find on with one small tear or srease it might be treated like a bindery tear at that point. have not found one yet. Good to know. I know of one person on here that "found" one with a single small stress line. We'll see what the person gets back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDMARVELCOMICS Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I just went through mine and I found one with out any bindery tears or defects like the ones shown in the pictures in this thread. It's pretty clean. But it does have one small crease on it. The crease is close to the spine by the #35. The crease doesn't break color at all. Maybe I should send this one in just to see what happens. I'm headed out the door right now. I'll be back in few hours. I'll scan it and post the scans as soon as I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I just went through mine and I found one with out any bindery tears or defects like the ones shown in the pictures in this thread. It's pretty clean. But it does have one small crease on it. The crease is close to the spine by the #35. The crease doesn't break color at all. Maybe I should send this one in just to see what happens. I'm headed out the door right now. I'll be back in few hours. I'll scan it and post the scans as soon as I get home. Yes, please do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 If there are scattered copies out there without the defect, this book will show up in a 9.8 holder sooner than you think. Especially after all this discussion about how tough it is to track one down, you know there is a strong chance for this to happen soon. Remember three years ago when boardies were saying we would never see more than a few GI Joe 21's in 9.8 when that book was going for $2,000-$2,500? Peasofcrap sold his for $,2000 or more when he was just the third one in the census, and there was talk of spine stress from production at that time. As was mentioned already, Joe #21 did NOT have the production flaws that would keep it out of 9.8. Those who "talked of spine stress from production" didn't know what they were talking about. Exactly my point! And the census proved this out. In the case of Wolverine 35, there is no doubt it does have such flaws. But there is a strong possibility there will be a 9.8 found if CGC recognizes even the slightest stress line was part of the production run, and those with minor imperfections will be considered the best of the lot. CGC adjusts its grading every once in a while to account for such things, rather than grading everything the same way. After all this discussion, I would be surprised if CGC doesn't take note of the flaw (if they haven't already). Has anyone called CGC and spoke with a grader about this book? This is true, and happened for things like printer's creases. But for Wolvrine #35 to "be an exception" would require the book to have an unspoken "qualified" grade. I imagine that would be fine for label chasers and registry fans, but it would always have an asterisk, because the flaw on every other book would result in a non-9.8 grade. "This Wolverine #35 is a CGC 9.8*" *except that it has production flaws that result in severe color breaking stress marks and even tears And Wolvie #35 is not the only book that month with this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I just went through mine and I found one with out any bindery tears or defects like the ones shown in the pictures in this thread. It's pretty clean. But it does have one small crease on it. The crease is close to the spine by the #35. The crease doesn't break color at all. Maybe I should send this one in just to see what happens. I'm headed out the door right now. I'll be back in few hours. I'll scan it and post the scans as soon as I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daken2626 Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 I just went through mine and I found one with out any bindery tears or defects like the ones shown in the pictures in this thread. It's pretty clean. But it does have one small crease on it. The crease is close to the spine by the #35. The crease doesn't break color at all. Maybe I should send this one in just to see what happens. I'm headed out the door right now. I'll be back in few hours. I'll scan it and post the scans as soon as I get home. AWESOME!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelfangirl Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I just went through mine and I found one with out any bindery tears or defects like the ones shown in the pictures in this thread. It's pretty clean. But it does have one small crease on it. The crease is close to the spine by the #35. The crease doesn't break color at all. Maybe I should send this one in just to see what happens. I'm headed out the door right now. I'll be back in few hours. I'll scan it and post the scans as soon as I get home. I get first dibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I just went through mine and I found one with out any bindery tears or defects like the ones shown in the pictures in this thread. It's pretty clean. But it does have one small crease on it. The crease is close to the spine by the #35. The crease doesn't break color at all. Maybe I should send this one in just to see what happens. I'm headed out the door right now. I'll be back in few hours. I'll scan it and post the scans as soon as I get home. I get first dibs Based on you're the one holding the laser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr 9.8 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I just went through mine and I found one with out any bindery tears or defects like the ones shown in the pictures in this thread. It's pretty clean. But it does have one small crease on it. The crease is close to the spine by the #35. The crease doesn't break color at all. Maybe I should send this one in just to see what happens. I'm headed out the door right now. I'll be back in few hours. I'll scan it and post the scans as soon as I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelfangirl Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I just went through mine and I found one with out any bindery tears or defects like the ones shown in the pictures in this thread. It's pretty clean. But it does have one small crease on it. The crease is close to the spine by the #35. The crease doesn't break color at all. Maybe I should send this one in just to see what happens. I'm headed out the door right now. I'll be back in few hours. I'll scan it and post the scans as soon as I get home. I get first dibs Based on you're the one holding the laser? MUHAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldsbestcomics Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I just went through mine and I found one with out any bindery tears or defects like the ones shown in the pictures in this thread. It's pretty clean. But it does have one small crease on it. The crease is close to the spine by the #35. The crease doesn't break color at all. Maybe I should send this one in just to see what happens. I'm headed out the door right now. I'll be back in few hours. I'll scan it and post the scans as soon as I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz973 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Either he realizes this would be a huge slabbing win (and a nice chunk of coin), or he removed the book from the bag and said, "SHYTE! So much for $500." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
