The-Collector Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 What causes this splotchy colour? Here you can see it in the purple of to the left of Iceman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 You mean the fact that the purple/violet parts are uneven? If so, it’s simply the printing process which tended to "rip" a little as plates were over-inked or under-inked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barth Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I was on Ebay today browsing the completed listings and I saw this: amazing spider man 300 ( misaligned cover ) lots of pictures bagged and boarded What do you guys think about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 That it’s just a stapling/cut error, not a printing error. I can’t see any fascination in this… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barth Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 OK wasn't sure. Seems like a decent price for this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 OK wasn't sure. Seems like a decent price for this though. Well, either you just bought it or someone else just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I did not even look at the price, but it surely is unusual, as those things were more bound to happen with golden age books of the 1940s. It’s a golden age Venom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJSsales-migration Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Hello, i have this hulk 130 that looks great except for these staple marks on the back cover. They arent holes but have the shape of staples. Anyways have you ever seen this before? Not sure if this is a printing defect or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Hello, i have this hulk 130 that looks great except for these staple marks on the back cover. They arent holes but have the shape of staples. Anyways have you ever seen this before? Not sure if this is a printing defect or not Those staple marks are from sitting in a stack with other books with rusty staples. IMO, it looks like your copy has rusty staples also. Not a printing defect. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJSsales-migration Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Thank you for the info. and yeah its okay, just pulled this out of a stack and wondered what the marks were from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnut Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) Great thread Dice, I have questions with regards to grading on these comics with production flaws. I couldn't find another thread with that kind of thing and don't want to use PGM as there anyone chimes in just their opinion whether they have experience with CGC or not. I know nobody can say for sure, but would appreciate some people's advice whom have a lot of experience with 9.6, 9.8, 9.9 and 10 books. I've only lots of experience with 9.4 and below. In particular I bought a case of Silver Spidey #1's. None of them seem perfect to me, or 9.8 material but I'm probably being overly cautious. In each case assume that this is the only flaw with the book. The particular defects I'm curious about are: 1.The white strip along the spine, some have said that this is considered a defect, even if it is the same width. 2. The same white strip if it goes from narrow to thick, so a misprint. 3. Minor bindery tear 4. Another misprint where it is the picture on the right edge that is slightly off center. 5. Minor blunting Here are pictures to illustrate. In this case I didn't take a picture of #1, but here is example of #2. 3. In the same picture above you can see a tiny bindery tear at the top, if that was the books only flaw what would it get. Here is a side view 4. misprint on the right side, you can see a silver strip at the right side bottom. 5. minor blunting top and bottom If someone could give their experience with how they would be graded like 9.6-9.8 or likely 9.8 kind of thing I think that would help me and many others. Edited May 10, 2013 by comicnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 The highest grade you'll get on the book in the first few pictures is 9.6. The white on the spine and on the right can still sneak into a 9.8 slab, but the curling on the spine, how the book doesn't lay flat, will not get a 9.8. It's called a stacking curl and is probably one of the most common flaws keeping a book from the 9.8 slab. Luckily, it's easily fixed with a press. A bindery tear can still get a 9.8, but it hast to be tiny. Like hard to see tiny. If you have the tiny bindery tears on both top and bottom, chances are you're getting 9.6 at best. The same goes with blunted corners. Even if there is no fraying, if the spine corners are dinged, you're looking at 9.6 at best in most cases. A 9.8 can have a couple of flaws, but they have to be tiny. Production cuts such as the ones in your pictures are not going to stop it from getting 9.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnut Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) Thanks DICE!!! I had actually set aside all the stacking curl ones thinking they would only get 9.4's at most, so some potential 9.6's out of them for the slightly curled is better already And I thought the progressive white strip (or silver on the right edge) would be bad (like how a progressive spine roll is worse) and end up dropping to 9.4 with maybe the slightest getting a 9.6 and anything with a whitestrip getting 9.6 at best so that is also good news. Edited May 10, 2013 by comicnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kevin76 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 What causes this splotchy colour? Here you can see it in the purple of to the left of Iceman The pressman has to put color on the paper and cannot save the books until they get the color to where it needs to be, in order to get that background color, blue and red is used, if the red is showing, it needs more blue in the area. Back in the old days, color was set by hand. So the guy setting the color had to run back and forth from the unit to checking the books to see if it's where he wanted it, if not, he had to keep making the adjustments by running back and forth, sometimes all night long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Hi, First time posting so I hope this works. How rare or unique is this production flaw? I have personally read thousands of comics and only seen this once. http://s8.postimage.org/gruo2ox41/IMG_0270.jpg' alt='IMG_0270.jpg'> [/img] It's called a splice. It's when one roll of paper gets switched to another roll with a piece of tape, there is always a "tail" after the splice which is what that is. Sometimes they don't take those out of the bundle and they get shipped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I am so glad I ventured into this thread. I recently purchased 2 ASM 300s and one had a jagged cut on the cover and the other didn't. I was afraid that the one with the jagged cut was a poorly trimmed book and would result in being graded poorly. Dull trimmer blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim M Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Great thread here Dice. It's neat to see some of the different defects that come up. This copy of Wolverine #1 has a printing defect along the bottom edge. Any idea how this would effect the grade of the book or would this be something that gets overlooked as it was a manufacturing defect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Common defect on this book and doesn't seem to factor into the grade as it is possible to get 9.8 with it present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim M Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Thanks Dice! I appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
