cosmic-spider-man Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 (edited) Hi Dice-X I found this on ebay and thought you might like to see it if you haven't already. See attachment I haven't figured out how to put a picture on a post yet but I will . Edited August 24, 2004 by cosmic-spider-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic-spider-man Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Hear is another Dice-X a Hawkeye #2 with a Captain Marvel #16 cover. This seems very unlikely do you think someone done this intensonaly working in the factory or could it have been an acident? Did or do you work at the factor that makes comics? Is this why you know so much about how it all works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 The manufacturing errors on both books are possible. As a matter of fact, I have (or used to have) an issue of Uncanny X-Men that had the incorrect interior pages. The story pages were from the prior issue of Uncanny. I bought it new at the LCS. After I got home and started having dejavu while reading it, I realized the problem. I went back to the shop and ALL the copies they had were the same way. I ended up having to pick up that one from a grocery store magazine stand so I could read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic-spider-man Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 (edited) Hi Dice-X I got another little error I was hopeing you could help explain how it happened. I have a Marvel Presents #12 and the price has some white lines through it and I have found 2 more examples like it could this have been something on the black plate or could it have been a flaw in the plate what do you think? Edited August 30, 2004 by cosmic-spider-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 The flaw is in the third one. The scan is small, so it's hard to see. Looks like something was on the negative when exposing the plate. Either that or a cut line where someone cut the "35" on the paste-up, when they were working up the cover. I'd imagine this flaw would have ran the entire length. It's nothing major, and the price is still readable. But that's just a guess. There may be books where this is not so noticable. The black ink could be flooded enough to fill this line in on the press. You'd still see a hint of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic-spider-man Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 (edited) The flaw is in the third one. The scan is small, so it's hard to see. I not realy sure about the third one but I think if you look real hard you can see a hint of it, may just be in my mind though. Looks like something was on the negative when exposing the plate. Either that or a cut line where someone cut the "35" on the paste-up, when they were working up the cover. Is it posible that the 35 cent price was placed on the negative with a small piece of clear tape in the shape of the white lines and the edges of the tape came out on the plate, is this posible or am I way off base? Edited August 30, 2004 by cosmic-spider-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 The flaw is in the third one. The scan is small, so it's hard to see. I not realy sure about the third one but I think if you look real hard you can see a hint of it, may just be in my mind though. Looks like something was on the negative when exposing the plate. Either that or a cut line where someone cut the "35" on the paste-up, when they were working up the cover. Is it posible that the 35 cent price was placed on the negative with a small piece of clear tape in the shape of the white lines and the edges of the tape came out on the plate, is this posible or am I way off base? Based on the positioning of the lines, I don't see that happening. Makes no sense if the whole price was cut in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 I not realy sure about the third one but I think if you look real hard you can see a hint of it, may just be in my mind though. I blew it up a bit, and adjusted the contrast so you can see it better. It's there. Is it posible that the 35 cent price was placed on the negative with a small piece of clear tape in the shape of the white lines and the edges of the tape came out on the plate, is this posible or am I way off base? Clear tape was not *usually* used over the top of an area that would print. It would have been taped around the sides with red tape (which blocks out the light from imaging the plate). It could have been taped down to hold it in place, red tape placed on the sides, then the positioning tape removed and left some residue. It just seems an odd place for tape to be laid by a stripper. I'm not doubting that's what it is. It could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 Based on the positioning of the lines, I don't see that happening. Makes no sense if the whole price was cut in. I agree, POV. Back in the film days, we didn't use clear tape for much of anything. Matter o fact, our boss would have killed us if he saw clear tape on anything. This type of thing would be just the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 It would have been taped around the sides with red tape (which blocks out the light from imaging the plate). Exactly. Also a major reason for the fifth black (the plate which contains only the text and none of the black of the image). So much easier to make last minute changes. Man, Dice. If that WAS from residue from just some positioning tape - that is a heck of a residue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic-spider-man Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Thanks Dice-X I am sure you are right I have no insite on this process other than what I have read hear it was just a uninformed and silly guess because of its shape. Did you work on these back in the 70's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Back in the film days ::sigh:: So no stippling nowadays? No opaqueing nowadays? Jeeze! Maybe it is time for me to get back ito the industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 It would have been taped around the sides with red tape (which blocks out the light from imaging the plate). Exactly. Also a major reason for the fifth black (the plate which contains only the text and none of the black of the image). So much easier to make last minute changes. Man, Dice. If that WAS from residue from just some positioning tape - that is a heck of a residue! Not all strippers can be as good as we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 Back in the film days ::sigh:: So no stippling nowadays? No opaqueing nowadays? Jeeze! Maybe it is time for me to get back ito the industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG! I HATED OPAQUEING! The upside was that you *could* get a small buzz from the fumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 Did you work on these back in the 70's? I'm not quite that old. I had the pleasure of learning the trade from the old timers that worked in the comic plant. AND...I asked a LOT of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Back in the film days ::sigh:: So no stippling nowadays? No opaqueing nowadays? Jeeze! Maybe it is time for me to get back ito the industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG! I HATED OPAQUEING! The upside was that you *could* get a small buzz from the fumes. Did you ever have to stipple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 Back in the film days ::sigh:: So no stippling nowadays? No opaqueing nowadays? Jeeze! Maybe it is time for me to get back ito the industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG! I HATED OPAQUEING! The upside was that you *could* get a small buzz from the fumes. Did you ever have to stipple? I actually enjoyed stippling. Perhaps because I was good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Back in the film days ::sigh:: So no stippling nowadays? No opaqueing nowadays? Jeeze! Maybe it is time for me to get back ito the industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG! I HATED OPAQUEING! The upside was that you *could* get a small buzz from the fumes. Did you ever have to stipple? I actually enjoyed stippling. Perhaps because I was good at it. I was good at it too. Loved follong the angle. But when you got a 32 page 4-color circular going out that night - stippling becomes less of a pleasure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiceX Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 Back in the film days ::sigh:: So no stippling nowadays? No opaqueing nowadays? Jeeze! Maybe it is time for me to get back ito the industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG! I HATED OPAQUEING! The upside was that you *could* get a small buzz from the fumes. Did you ever have to stipple? I actually enjoyed stippling. Perhaps because I was good at it. I was good at it too. Loved follong the angle. But when you got a 32 page 4-color circular going out that night - stippling becomes less of a pleasure! That's when the tip of your finger gets numb, your eyes cross, and you want to do some opaqueing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasses-migration Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 I have a book that seems to be perfect in every way except a little hole at the top of the book in the back cover ... what do you think this book will grade anyone care to give a opinon?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
