When will/will the WALKING DEAD bubble burst? 7 7

[DarthBane]

 

GPA sales

Walking Dead 1 CGC 9.8

2014 $1,982

2015 $2,075

12 month Avg $2,725

90 day $3,155

Last sale $3,040

 

 

Those numbers are astounding. Putting in higher highs for two years now. I remember a bunch of folks complaining about missing this one and how it was too late to fork out $2K for a Near Mint/Mint slab. Turns out there ended up still being 50% ROR on the table. And its not like liquidity was thin in 2014. Plenty always up for auction on ebay and BIN/BOs as well.

[Jaydogrules]

Even the Big 3 networks would kill to have the ratings this show gets, even in an "off year".

 

 

-J.

 

 

No they wouldn't....Big 3 networks ratings leaders for middle season episodes are running double the numbers TWD is for live viewership.

 

Wrong.

 

WD has one of the highest demo ratings of all prime time shows on television.

 

And maybe if Star Wars can stop telling the same story over and over it will be interesting again.

 

-J.

[NewEnglandGothic]

 

Star Wars has had exactly one good movie out of 7, and still seems to be doing fine as a franchise as well.

 

 

 

Stop. Please.

 

I kinda agree with him.

 

Star Wars did have only one good movie. It was "Return of the Jedi."

But, it did have three great movies (Episodes IV,V & VII,) two so-so ones and one turkey.

 

[comix4fun]

Even the Big 3 networks would kill to have the ratings this show gets, even in an "off year".

 

 

-J.

 

 

No they wouldn't....Big 3 networks ratings leaders for middle season episodes are running double the numbers TWD is for live viewership.

 

Wrong.

 

WD has one of the highest demo ratings of all prime time shows on television.

 

And maybe if Star Wars can stop telling the same story over and over it will be interesting again.

 

-J.

 

 

 

How about we look at Nielsen ratings.?

 

The #2 Broadcast network show for the week of 11/21 (most recent released) was 60 minutes. Sunday night show...a 10.2 share, which equals 17,265,000 viewers.

 

The #2 Cable show for the week of 11/21 was The Walking Dead. Sunday night show....a 5.4 share, which equals 10,403,000 viewers. In stiff competition it finished one spot ahead of the Hallmark Channel original movie Journey Back To Christmas

 

A 5.4 share doesn't even crack the top 10 for the week on Broadcast TV. In fact it falls more than 20% behind the 10th spot.

 

Before you jump to "WRONG" you might want to actually read what ratings mean instead of accepting the very limited and very narrowly focused analysis needed to put TWD on top (viewers of a certain age, with repeated viewings, etc etc). It might help you from becoming all that you abhor.

[comix4fun]

 

Star Wars has had exactly one good movie out of 7, and still seems to be doing fine as a franchise as well.

 

 

 

Stop. Please.

 

I kinda agree with him.

 

Star Wars did have only one good movie. It was "Return of the Jedi."

But, it did have three great movies (Episodes IV,V & VII,) two so-so ones and one turkey.

 

 

[Jaydogrules]

Even the Big 3 networks would kill to have the ratings this show gets, even in an "off year".

 

 

-J.

 

 

No they wouldn't....Big 3 networks ratings leaders for middle season episodes are running double the numbers TWD is for live viewership.

 

Wrong.

 

WD has one of the highest demo ratings of all prime time shows on television.

 

And maybe if Star Wars can stop telling the same story over and over it will be interesting again.

 

-J.

 

 

 

How about we look at Nielsen ratings.?

 

The #2 Broadcast network show for the week of 11/21 (most recent released) was 60 minutes. Sunday night show...a 10.2 share, which equals 17,265,000 viewers.

 

The #2 Cable show for the week of 11/21 was The Walking Dead. Sunday night show....a 5.4 share, which equals 10,403,000 viewers. In stiff competition it finished one spot ahead of the Hallmark Channel original movie Journey Back To Christmas

 

A 5.4 share doesn't even crack the top 10 for the week on Broadcast TV. In fact it falls more than 20% behind the 10th spot.

 

Before you jump to "WRONG" you might want to actually read what ratings mean instead of accepting the very limited and very narrowly focused analysis needed to put TWD on top (viewers of a certain age, with repeated viewings, etc etc). It might help you from becoming all that you abhor.

 

Sure okay you're right . No major broadcast network would want a 7 year old show that still pulls a 5.4.

 

-J.

[Jaydogrules]

 

Star Wars has had exactly one good movie out of 7, and still seems to be doing fine as a franchise as well.

 

 

 

Stop. Please.

 

I kinda agree with him.

 

Star Wars did have only one good movie. It was "Return of the Jedi."

But, it did have three great movies (Episodes IV,V & VII,) two so-so ones and one turkey.

 

My point exactly. The three "great ones" all told the identical story.

 

-J.

[mysterio]

 

Star Wars has had exactly one good movie out of 7, and still seems to be doing fine as a franchise as well.

 

 

 

Stop. Please.

 

I kinda agree with him.

 

Star Wars did have only one good movie. It was "Return of the Jedi."

But, it did have three great movies (Episodes IV,V & VII,) two so-so ones and one turkey.

 

My point exactly. The three "great ones" all told the identical story.

 

-J.

 

Walking Dead doesn't? Walk, kill a zombie, hide, repeat. Walk, kill a zombie, hide from the scary humans, wring hands, repeat.

[comix4fun]

Even the Big 3 networks would kill to have the ratings this show gets, even in an "off year".

 

 

-J.

 

 

No they wouldn't....Big 3 networks ratings leaders for middle season episodes are running double the numbers TWD is for live viewership.

 

Wrong.

 

WD has one of the highest demo ratings of all prime time shows on television.

 

And maybe if Star Wars can stop telling the same story over and over it will be interesting again.

 

-J.

 

 

 

How about we look at Nielsen ratings.?

 

The #2 Broadcast network show for the week of 11/21 (most recent released) was 60 minutes. Sunday night show...a 10.2 share, which equals 17,265,000 viewers.

 

The #2 Cable show for the week of 11/21 was The Walking Dead. Sunday night show....a 5.4 share, which equals 10,403,000 viewers. In stiff competition it finished one spot ahead of the Hallmark Channel original movie Journey Back To Christmas

 

A 5.4 share doesn't even crack the top 10 for the week on Broadcast TV. In fact it falls more than 20% behind the 10th spot.

 

Before you jump to "WRONG" you might want to actually read what ratings mean instead of accepting the very limited and very narrowly focused analysis needed to put TWD on top (viewers of a certain age, with repeated viewings, etc etc). It might help you from becoming all that you abhor.

 

Sure okay you're right . No major broadcast network would want a 7 year old show that still pulls a 5.4.

 

-J.

 

 

The measurement for broadcast TV as to what a juggernaut is, or as you put it "would kill for" isn't a 5.4.

 

Seinfeld in season 7 pulled a 22 pretty much every week.

Friends in season 7 pulled up to a 19.

Big Bang Theory in season 7 was consistently above 17.

 

TWD is a big fish in the smaller pond of basic cable. You should just be happy with that (even with it's recent faltering) instead of claiming something that.

 

[comix4fun]

 

Star Wars has had exactly one good movie out of 7, and still seems to be doing fine as a franchise as well.

 

 

 

Stop. Please.

 

I kinda agree with him.

 

Star Wars did have only one good movie. It was "Return of the Jedi."

But, it did have three great movies (Episodes IV,V & VII,) two so-so ones and one turkey.

 

My point exactly. The three "great ones" all told the identical story.

 

-J.

 

 

A New Hope and Empire Strike Back told identical stories?

[NewEnglandGothic]

 

Star Wars has had exactly one good movie out of 7, and still seems to be doing fine as a franchise as well.

 

 

 

Stop. Please.

 

I kinda agree with him.

 

Star Wars did have only one good movie. It was "Return of the Jedi."

But, it did have three great movies (Episodes IV,V & VII,) two so-so ones and one turkey.

 

My point exactly. The three "great ones" all told the identical story.

 

-J.

 

Walking Dead doesn't? Walk, kill a zombie, hide, repeat. Walk, kill a zombie, hide from the scary humans, wring hands, repeat.

I was thinking about how many more violent antagonists are they going to encounter myself.

[Jaydogrules]

Even the Big 3 networks would kill to have the ratings this show gets, even in an "off year".

 

 

-J.

 

 

No they wouldn't....Big 3 networks ratings leaders for middle season episodes are running double the numbers TWD is for live viewership.

 

Wrong.

 

WD has one of the highest demo ratings of all prime time shows on television.

 

And maybe if Star Wars can stop telling the same story over and over it will be interesting again.

 

-J.

 

 

 

How about we look at Nielsen ratings.?

 

The #2 Broadcast network show for the week of 11/21 (most recent released) was 60 minutes. Sunday night show...a 10.2 share, which equals 17,265,000 viewers.

 

The #2 Cable show for the week of 11/21 was The Walking Dead. Sunday night show....a 5.4 share, which equals 10,403,000 viewers. In stiff competition it finished one spot ahead of the Hallmark Channel original movie Journey Back To Christmas

 

A 5.4 share doesn't even crack the top 10 for the week on Broadcast TV. In fact it falls more than 20% behind the 10th spot.

 

Before you jump to "WRONG" you might want to actually read what ratings mean instead of accepting the very limited and very narrowly focused analysis needed to put TWD on top (viewers of a certain age, with repeated viewings, etc etc). It might help you from becoming all that you abhor.

 

Sure okay you're right . No major broadcast network would want a 7 year old show that still pulls a 5.4.

 

-J.

 

 

The measurement for broadcast TV as to what a juggernaut is, or as you put it "would kill for" isn't a 5.4.

 

Seinfeld in season 7 pulled a 22 pretty much every week.

Friends in season 7 pulled up to a 19.

Big Bang Theory in season 7 was consistently above 17.

 

TWD is a big fish in the smaller pond of basic cable. You should just be happy with that (even with it's recent faltering) instead of claiming something that.

 

We might be speaking different languages.

 

The Walking Dead demo I'm referring to (18-49, the one advertiser's care about most) is what is amongst the highest of all prime time shows.

 

-J.

[comix4fun]

 

Star Wars has had exactly one good movie out of 7, and still seems to be doing fine as a franchise as well.

 

 

 

Stop. Please.

 

I kinda agree with him.

 

Star Wars did have only one good movie. It was "Return of the Jedi."

But, it did have three great movies (Episodes IV,V & VII,) two so-so ones and one turkey.

 

My point exactly. The three "great ones" all told the identical story.

 

-J.

 

Walking Dead doesn't? Walk, kill a zombie, hide, repeat. Walk, kill a zombie, hide from the scary humans, wring hands, repeat.

I was thinking about how many more violent antagonists are they going to encounter myself.

 

 

There are so many different kinds....eye-patch....no eye-patch......they haven't met up with a double eye-patch yet, cannibals, animals, garanimals....giant vats of pudding.

[comix4fun]

Even the Big 3 networks would kill to have the ratings this show gets, even in an "off year".

 

 

-J.

 

 

No they wouldn't....Big 3 networks ratings leaders for middle season episodes are running double the numbers TWD is for live viewership.

 

Wrong.

 

WD has one of the highest demo ratings of all prime time shows on television.

 

And maybe if Star Wars can stop telling the same story over and over it will be interesting again.

 

-J.

 

 

 

How about we look at Nielsen ratings.?

 

The #2 Broadcast network show for the week of 11/21 (most recent released) was 60 minutes. Sunday night show...a 10.2 share, which equals 17,265,000 viewers.

 

The #2 Cable show for the week of 11/21 was The Walking Dead. Sunday night show....a 5.4 share, which equals 10,403,000 viewers. In stiff competition it finished one spot ahead of the Hallmark Channel original movie Journey Back To Christmas

 

A 5.4 share doesn't even crack the top 10 for the week on Broadcast TV. In fact it falls more than 20% behind the 10th spot.

 

Before you jump to "WRONG" you might want to actually read what ratings mean instead of accepting the very limited and very narrowly focused analysis needed to put TWD on top (viewers of a certain age, with repeated viewings, etc etc). It might help you from becoming all that you abhor.

 

Sure okay you're right . No major broadcast network would want a 7 year old show that still pulls a 5.4.

 

-J.

 

 

The measurement for broadcast TV as to what a juggernaut is, or as you put it "would kill for" isn't a 5.4.

 

Seinfeld in season 7 pulled a 22 pretty much every week.

Friends in season 7 pulled up to a 19.

Big Bang Theory in season 7 was consistently above 17.

 

TWD is a big fish in the smaller pond of basic cable. You should just be happy with that (even with it's recent faltering) instead of claiming something that.

 

We might be speaking different languages.

 

The Walking Dead demo I'm referring to (18-49, the one advertiser's care about most) is what is amongst the highest of all prime time shows.

 

-J.

 

You just said "the big three would kill for shows with these ratings". There are ratings with the big R, actual viewers, and targeted ratings that take into account prime time, cable or network, day of the week, genre, etc.

 

Get specific enough and "Fixer Upper" is the next "Walking Dead".

 

That single narrow focus....18-49 on cable...is a suitable balm to sooth ones worries in.

[Red_Hood]

 

Star Wars has had exactly one good movie out of 7, and still seems to be doing fine as a franchise as well.

 

 

 

Stop. Please.

 

I kinda agree with him.

 

Star Wars did have only one good movie. It was "Return of the Jedi."

But, it did have three great movies (Episodes IV,V & VII,) two so-so ones and one turkey.

 

My point exactly. The three "great ones" all told the identical story.

 

-J.

 

Walking Dead doesn't? Walk, kill a zombie, hide, repeat. Walk, kill a zombie, hide from the scary humans, wring hands, repeat.

I was thinking about how many more violent antagonists are they going to encounter myself.

 

No kidding... In 7 years they still live

in the stone age after this catastrophe.

Even though they are industrialized and modern they can't

get beyond acting likes apes.

1diots could have mobilized better than this after 7 years.

 

The show is beyond stale and doesn't do the comic any favors.

 

On another note, I hear the Gold Key Star Trek comic is flying off the

shelves because it's the 50th anniversary of the T.V series.

[Rip]

Even the Big 3 networks would kill to have the ratings this show gets, even in an "off year".

 

 

-J.

 

 

No they wouldn't....Big 3 networks ratings leaders for middle season episodes are running double the numbers TWD is for live viewership.

 

Wrong.

 

WD has one of the highest demo ratings of all prime time shows on television.

 

And maybe if Star Wars can stop telling the same story over and over it will be interesting again.

 

-J.

 

 

 

How about we look at Nielsen ratings.?

 

The #2 Broadcast network show for the week of 11/21 (most recent released) was 60 minutes. Sunday night show...a 10.2 share, which equals 17,265,000 viewers.

 

The #2 Cable show for the week of 11/21 was The Walking Dead. Sunday night show....a 5.4 share, which equals 10,403,000 viewers. In stiff competition it finished one spot ahead of the Hallmark Channel original movie Journey Back To Christmas

 

A 5.4 share doesn't even crack the top 10 for the week on Broadcast TV. In fact it falls more than 20% behind the 10th spot.

 

Before you jump to "WRONG" you might want to actually read what ratings mean instead of accepting the very limited and very narrowly focused analysis needed to put TWD on top (viewers of a certain age, with repeated viewings, etc etc). It might help you from becoming all that you abhor.

 

Sure okay you're right . No major broadcast network would want a 7 year old show that still pulls a 5.4.

 

-J.

 

 

The measurement for broadcast TV as to what a juggernaut is, or as you put it "would kill for" isn't a 5.4.

 

Seinfeld in season 7 pulled a 22 pretty much every week.

Friends in season 7 pulled up to a 19.

Big Bang Theory in season 7 was consistently above 17.

 

TWD is a big fish in the smaller pond of basic cable. You should just be happy with that (even with it's recent faltering) instead of claiming something that.

 

That's not really fair. TV doesn't have the live numbers it used to have in general. Or viewership numbers period.

 

TWD isn't the small fish you make it out to be when you look at the dollars review stream. Honestly yes networks would kill to get these kind of numbers.

 

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/tv-advertising-prices-football-empire-walking-dead-big-bang-theory-1201603800/

 

TV’s Priciest Shows 2015

 

“Sunday Night Football” (NBC, Sunday): 2015: $637,330 2014: $623,445 +2.2%

“Empire” (Fox, Wednesday): 2015: $521,794 2014: $138,200 +277.6%

“The Walking Dead”* (AMC, Sunday): 2015: $502,500 $2014: $413,695 +21.5%

 

This is unheard of for a Cable TV show.

For comparison

“The Big Bang Theory” (CBS, Monday) 2015: $289,621 2014: $327,885 -11.7%

 

 

Edited December 5, 2016 by Rip

[comix4fun]

Even the Big 3 networks would kill to have the ratings this show gets, even in an "off year".

 

 

-J.

 

 

No they wouldn't....Big 3 networks ratings leaders for middle season episodes are running double the numbers TWD is for live viewership.

 

Wrong.

 

WD has one of the highest demo ratings of all prime time shows on television.

 

And maybe if Star Wars can stop telling the same story over and over it will be interesting again.

 

-J.

 

 

 

How about we look at Nielsen ratings.?

 

The #2 Broadcast network show for the week of 11/21 (most recent released) was 60 minutes. Sunday night show...a 10.2 share, which equals 17,265,000 viewers.

 

The #2 Cable show for the week of 11/21 was The Walking Dead. Sunday night show....a 5.4 share, which equals 10,403,000 viewers. In stiff competition it finished one spot ahead of the Hallmark Channel original movie Journey Back To Christmas

 

A 5.4 share doesn't even crack the top 10 for the week on Broadcast TV. In fact it falls more than 20% behind the 10th spot.

 

Before you jump to "WRONG" you might want to actually read what ratings mean instead of accepting the very limited and very narrowly focused analysis needed to put TWD on top (viewers of a certain age, with repeated viewings, etc etc). It might help you from becoming all that you abhor.

 

Sure okay you're right . No major broadcast network would want a 7 year old show that still pulls a 5.4.

 

-J.

 

 

The measurement for broadcast TV as to what a juggernaut is, or as you put it "would kill for" isn't a 5.4.

 

Seinfeld in season 7 pulled a 22 pretty much every week.

Friends in season 7 pulled up to a 19.

Big Bang Theory in season 7 was consistently above 17.

 

TWD is a big fish in the smaller pond of basic cable. You should just be happy with that (even with it's recent faltering) instead of claiming something that.

 

That's not really fair. TV doesn't have the live numbers it used to have in general.

 

TWD isn't the small fish you make it out to be when you look at the dollars review stream. Honestly yes networks would kill to get these kind of numbers.

 

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/tv-advertising-prices-football-empire-walking-dead-big-bang-theory-1201603800/

 

TV’s Priciest Shows

 

“Sunday Night Football” (NBC, Sunday): 2015: $637,330 2014: $623,445 +2.2%

“Empire” (Fox, Wednesday): 2015: $521,794 2014: $138,200 +277.6%

“The Walking Dead”* (AMC, Sunday): 2015: $502,500 $2014: $413,695 +21.5%

 

This is unheard of for a Cable TV show.

 

 

That's comparing 2014 to 2015....when the show was rolling...especially 2014 (season 5).

 

I was quoting real time ratings from 2016....where the show is hitting premiere to follow up episode viewer loss they haven't seen before.

 

I am sure advertisers would have been lining up to spend more for season 4 or 5....not after these numbers hit.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/12/04/as-the-walking-deads-ratings-hit-bottom-how-does-the-show-rebound-from-here/

 

The numbers we are seeing now are off by over 40% from Season 5's average viewship....Season 5 was the season that determined the jump from 2014 to 2015 ad dollars commanded. Expect that to reverse trend if the viewers aren't staying.

[sd2416]

 

Star Wars has had exactly one good movie out of 7, and still seems to be doing fine as a franchise as well.

 

 

 

Stop. Please.

 

I kinda agree with him.

 

Star Wars did have only one good movie. It was "Return of the Jedi."

But, it did have three great movies (Episodes IV,V & VII,) two so-so ones and one turkey.

 

My point exactly. The three "great ones" all told the identical story.

 

-J.

 

Walking Dead doesn't? Walk, kill a zombie, hide, repeat. Walk, kill a zombie, hide from the scary humans, wring hands, repeat.

I was thinking about how many more violent antagonists are they going to encounter myself.

 

No kidding... In 7 years they still live

in the stone age after this catastrophe.

Even though they are industrialized and modern they can't

get beyond acting likes apes.

1diots could have mobilized better than this after 7 years.

 

The show is beyond stale and doesn't do the comic any favors.

 

On another note, I hear the Gold Key Star Trek comic is flying off the

shelves because it's the 50th anniversary of the T.V series.

 

It's not 7 years in story. Its like 18-24 months.

[Jaydogrules]

Even the Big 3 networks would kill to have the ratings this show gets, even in an "off year".

 

 

-J.

 

 

No they wouldn't....Big 3 networks ratings leaders for middle season episodes are running double the numbers TWD is for live viewership.

 

Wrong.

 

WD has one of the highest demo ratings of all prime time shows on television.

 

And maybe if Star Wars can stop telling the same story over and over it will be interesting again.

 

-J.

 

 

 

How about we look at Nielsen ratings.?

 

The #2 Broadcast network show for the week of 11/21 (most recent released) was 60 minutes. Sunday night show...a 10.2 share, which equals 17,265,000 viewers.

 

The #2 Cable show for the week of 11/21 was The Walking Dead. Sunday night show....a 5.4 share, which equals 10,403,000 viewers. In stiff competition it finished one spot ahead of the Hallmark Channel original movie Journey Back To Christmas

 

A 5.4 share doesn't even crack the top 10 for the week on Broadcast TV. In fact it falls more than 20% behind the 10th spot.

 

Before you jump to "WRONG" you might want to actually read what ratings mean instead of accepting the very limited and very narrowly focused analysis needed to put TWD on top (viewers of a certain age, with repeated viewings, etc etc). It might help you from becoming all that you abhor.

 

Sure okay you're right . No major broadcast network would want a 7 year old show that still pulls a 5.4.

 

-J.

 

 

The measurement for broadcast TV as to what a juggernaut is, or as you put it "would kill for" isn't a 5.4.

 

Seinfeld in season 7 pulled a 22 pretty much every week.

Friends in season 7 pulled up to a 19.

Big Bang Theory in season 7 was consistently above 17.

 

TWD is a big fish in the smaller pond of basic cable. You should just be happy with that (even with it's recent faltering) instead of claiming something that.

 

We might be speaking different languages.

 

The Walking Dead demo I'm referring to (18-49, the one advertiser's care about most) is what is amongst the highest of all prime time shows.

 

-J.

 

You just said "the big three would kill for shows with these ratings". There are ratings with the big R, actual viewers, and targeted ratings that take into account prime time, cable or network, day of the week, genre, etc.

 

Get specific enough and "Fixer Upper" is the next "Walking Dead".

 

That single narrow focus....18-49 on cable...is a suitable balm to sooth ones worries in.

 

I was under the impression that it is common knowledge that the demo "rating" is the only one that matters.

 

And don't be disingenuous, you know that there aren't different ratings barometers for the demo or otherwise for basic cable and network television.

 

Fact remains, even in a "down year" WD is still one of the highest rated shows on TV, and indeed, ANY network would kill for those kind of ratings (pun intended ).

 

-J.

[HarveySwick]