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[accessndx]

I hope you folks don't mind me injecting salient articles from around the interweb. I found this slightly older article interesting, hopefully you do as well:

http://screenrant.com/justice-league-movie-dc-universe-discussion/

Why ‘Justice League’ Can Successfully Launch a DC Movie Universe

It’s been the question on the minds of comic book fans ever since Marvel revealed their plan for The Avengers, and the launch of their larger movie universe: will DC Comics do the same? The public had already gotten more than a few (and perhaps more than necessary) looks at Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman in live-action form, most recently with the groundbreaking Dark Knight Trilogy from Christopher Nolan. Would the world need an introduction to DC’s heroes as they had with Marvel’s? Or could DC and Warner Bros. cut to the chase, and release a movie version of The Justice League?

 

Some of us believe that strategy won’t just be a different approach, but one that will work best for DC Comics’ lineup. The strategy has worked before, and reflects the reality of WB’s situation. With Zack Snyder’s Man Of Steel once again exciting comic book fans due to its amount of talent and Nolan-esque sensibility, DC has placed the rest of their bets on a Justice League film coming summer 2015. Here’s why it makes sense for the studio and cast of characters, and why fans should possibly be excited by the proposition, rather than disappointed.

 

First off, it’s important to recognize that DC isn’t making this decision lightly, in an effort to simply capitalize off of the success of The Avengers – no studio makes this big a decision off of one factor. DC and WB has plans for building an entire gallery of comic book movies at one point, and have since distanced themselves from most. Instead, Marvel’s ‘competition’ is putting of all their eggs into one basket, and giving themselves almost three years to create one story with a single creative team.

 

The plan is risky, but could work. Marvel fans (and those who’ve never read many DC Comics), please hear us out.

 

Rather than simply handing out every hero and super-team DC has ever created to a variety of directors and writers, the studio has the opportunity to bring DC’s best creative minds together for one great story. DC/WB creative talents like Geoff Johns, Mark Waid, Bruce Timm, Lauren Montgomery, or any combination thereof have proven their writing skills and knowledge of the characters time and again. That was the idea previously pointed to by our own Kofi Outlaw in his advice for building a DC movie universe, and it’s still the best route.

 

The assumption that more characters automatically means less story or development was proven dead wrong with Matthew Vaughn’s X-Men: First Class, and most comic book writers know that undercooked ensemble stories are merely a result of poor writing. If DC is taking their time, the opportunity is theirs to tell a strong story, while setting a single tone and style for their universe going forward. This is the same thing Marvel seems to be seeking after hiring Joss Whedon to oversee their entire “Phase 2″ universe, while not recycling any directors for their ‘Phase Two’ projects. Marvel’s using few writers as well – not surprising, since Whedon was brought in to rewrite both Captain America and The Avengers.

 

We know DC’s rogues gallery of writers can create a strong narrative utilizing the heroes assembled, since Justice League stories have proven to be among the best ones in the company’s history. Simply look to ‘Kingdom Come,’ ‘Identity Crisis,’ and the community aspects of ‘Green Lantern: Rebirth’ and ‘Flash: Rebirth,’ both written by DCU Chief Creative Officer, Geoff Johns.

 

Rather than fast-tracking development on half a dozen films in the wake of Marvel’s success – for reference, take a quick glance at Fox’s ever-growing ‘Marvel universe’ – Warner Bros. and DC are sticking to what they do best. Rather than trying to mimic Marvel, or convince the public that The Flash and Wonder Woman deserve attention – or promising they won’t repeat the mistakes of Green Lantern - they’re just going to show people.

 

DC/WB needs to prove that they recognize why fans disliked Green Lantern by highlighting the character in a better light (no pun), possibly with a new actor, and with powers and personality more in keeping with the source material. Fans would be fine with a smaller role for the hero if he’s done properly, but there’s no point in making an entire film/reboot/sequel/do-over that absolutely nobody is demanding (outside of the most niche fan base). Asking audiences to pay full price to risk being hoodwinked again isn’t fair and isn’t a wise business move – but a compelling, kinetic GL that fans can recognize, and newcomers gravitate toward, speaks louder than studio promises.

 

Take the ensemble of Justice League as a chance to prove that Wonder Woman can be a unique heroine, culturally relevant to modern women in a shared a world with Superman. Marvel’s movies have gotten female audiences through their leading men, but the films themselves have offered few women for audiences to identify with. Again, this is a character that even Joss Whedon’s failed to launch, and David E. Kelly’s failed to bring to TV. The overwhelmingly vocal male comic book audience and Internet community would be all too ready to attack a Wonder Woman film, for reasons that depress and infuriate us (costume, concept, etc). Why fight an uphill battle from day one?

 

Use Justice League to prove that The Flash can work in live-action, and how the audience will be granted a window into his accelerated perception. Since super-speed special effects remain largely unexplored, DC would be wise to first demonstrate (in limited example) that they’ve got it figured out, before going all-in. Even the biggest Flash-fans would have trouble explaining where his powers come from, be it through chemicals and lighting, or the mystical ‘Speed Force.’ How the character behaves is what defines him, not the origin story of his speed; it would be wise to show the payoff to The Flash’s powers before asking moviegoers to grasp the intricacies of their creation.

 

And finally, use a Justice League movie to introduce a new actor as Batman. He’s the character everybody already knows, but take this chance to show a side that Nolan’s universe didn’t touch. Honestly, it takes all of ten minutes for fans to ‘get’ how any director’s incarnation of Batman is different from those previous, and with the billions of dollars that Nolan’s Dark Knight Trilogy brought in, it’s safe to assume the people who ‘need to be introduced to Batman’s origin story’ aren’t planning on learning it in their lifetime.

 

Bundle Batman in with the League and fans won’t focus on debating whether the property should be rebooted, why Christian Bale isn’t coming back, how the new actor compares to his predecessors, etc. Just add Batman to the team, and let people see for themselves how he stands alongside the rest of the heroes. The differences between Joss Whedon’s Hulk, Thor and Captain America as seen in The Avengers and their lead-up films were ultimately seen as adding depth – not breaking continuity because the writer and director had changed.

 

If DC says Nolan’s version is canon, but they’re expanding on it, so be it – the question won’t matter if fans like this version. I’ve already written an entire article on how a new Batman could be more faithful to the comics than Nolan’s, and many of you readers agreed. We don’t need to see his parents getting Killed again and him discovering the Batcave (etc). It’s Batman: his origins always remain the same.

 

That’s four massive risks that DC would avoid by foregoing lead-in films and the attached skepticism. Have audiences enter the theater wanting to see Superman, Batman, and the Justice League, and leave wanting standalone films of each new hero they’ve come to know and enjoy.

 

In summer 2013, people will have a Superman movie. If it is received well, that will leave two years until Justice League – plenty of time to build anticipation and buzz. Give Marvel their space, and see if audiences begin to tire of their growing universe, since the hype can’t feasibly continue to grow. Captain America 2, Thor 2, Iron Man 3, Guardians of the Galaxy, and a S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show will overlap and interconnect with enemies and powers much less grounded than those in the past.

 

With a vastly different array of unproven talent and oddball picks for directors, even Marvel is willing to accept that all their risks won’t lead to flawless successes. Come summer 2015 moviegoers will have a Justice League movie that hasn’t been rushed, featuring the most recognizable superheroes in the world: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and The Flash – all taking place in a story that requires absolutely no homework or lead-ins to understand and appreciate.

 

People claim that DC’s move to release a single Justice League movie three years from now is a “cash grab,” when it seems more like a move to distinguish themselves from Marvel, and avoid the churn that is already forming with their properties. Marvel is planning to release five films in the same amount of time DC will release two. DC isn’t making the decision that will bring in the most money in the long run (or the short), but the one that starts their universe strong and unified – arguably with the same sense of cohesion and oversight that it took Marvel half a dozen films to realize would be the best move going forward.

 

Superman has a lead-in with Man of Steel, Green Lantern has been brought to the public’s attention, regardless of how successful it was (for comparison: Thor could have bombed, but Marvel would have still went ahead with their plans). Nobody needs a refresher on Batman. That leaves Wonder Woman and the Flash: both characters the public has a less clear idea of, besides name alone, making them understandable as support characters (to start). There’s no reason to assume that a first chapter in this universe (featuring all of them) is more likely to fail, assuming the -script is solid - especially if DC is committed to taking almost three years to complete it.

 

Marvel did things their way, proving their individual characters to the public, thereby building excitement for a team-up. We won’t claim that the excitement for any Superman/Batman team-up or assemblage of The World’s Finest is automatically as high, but it’s damn close.

 

Simply giving the public more of Marvel’s formula isn’t a wise move from any standpoint, artistically or in terms of marketing. For all we know, fans might completely be turned off by the move to the Cosmic fiction in Marvel Phase Two, and Guardians of the Galaxy could be a flop compared to its predecessors. It’s not guaranteed that Marvel’s ‘Phase Two’ will be as strong as The Avengers was, especially without Joss Whedon writing or directing. Come Avengers 2, feelings on the universe Marvel built could be very different than they are now.

 

Then again, the Marvel Phase Two films could all be spectacular – but it’s a bit foolish to think that the cultural significance placed into the Superman logo or Batman’s cowl doesn’t already resonate. And fans will have spent two years since Man of Steel without any of DC’s more iconic characters by the time Justice League rolls around. The film could essentially market itself.

 

Again, it’s the writing quality that fans rely on to know where characters come from, not entire two-hour features. Would a newcomer to The Avengers know Bruce Banner’s backstory? Thor’s? To claim that extended backstory and familiarity is what’s absolutely needed to make an ensemble film resonate is a fallacy. That logic implies that the storytelling and satisfaction of a sequel or threequel is automatically more promising than a single film, whereas the opposite is usually proven to be true. Put the responsibility on DC and WB to show why these characters matter immediately, and why people should want to see more of them. Rather than backing down from such a challenge, the studio seems to be welcoming it.

 

Forgive us for our optimism, but DC following the exact same formula as they always have with comics makes sense. Use their most famous characters – the ones kids know before they can speak – to bring in fans, and introduce them to new characters that they would never have been interested in otherwise. Figure out what works, and what doesn’t, instead of forcing fans to wait for the most famous group of superheroes in history. Why do we have to introduce everyone via two-hour films over the next three years?

 

I think we’ll stick with the Justice League first idea.

[Boba]

Cool, and thanks for the great read on my bus ride home,

This sounds like good reasoning. I hope DC is listening.

[showcase22gr1959]

Cool, and thanks for the great read on my bus ride home,

This sounds like good reasoning. I hope DC is listening.

 

+1

 

[accessndx]

Warner Bros Seeks Court Ordered End To Superman Legal Battle:

 

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/warner-bros-seeks-court-ordered-end-superman-legal-062016612.html

 

Less than a month after scoring a major legal victory in the Superman copyright case, Warner Bros today sought to finish off the suit by the heirs of co-creator Jerry Siegel. “After nearly a decade of litigation, the Siegel Superman and Siegel Superboy cases can now come to an end,” said the motion for summary judgment (read it here) filed Thursday. The studio wants the federal court to assert the January 10 ruling of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals that essentially gave Warner Bros full rights to the superhero character and the freedom to move forward with its Superman big screen reboot Man of Steel and other related properties without the threat of further legal action by the creators’ heirs and estates. The ruling last month overturned a 2008 ruling that Laura Siegel Larson and the estate of Joanne Siegel still controlled the lucrative rights to Superman and his younger self Superboy because a binding agreement was never reached by the parties. “In short, these cases are over. Any attempt by Larson to resuscitate them is futile,” the studio and its DC Comics subsidiary said in today’s filing by lawyers Daniel Petrocelli, Matthew Kline and Cassandra Seto. “In both the Superman and Superboy cases, DC’s Fourth Counterclaim seeks a declaration that Larson transferred her Superman and Superboy copyrights to DC pursuant to a 2001 settlement agreement, and that the parties are bound by the terms of that agreement,” it added. “The Ninth Circuit requested that this Court resolve these questions on remand, and the Court can and should do so now, and bring these two long-running cases to an end.” Defendants WB and DC Comics have requested a hearing on the motion for March 11, the same day several other matters in the Man of Steel legal saga are to be addressed by the court.

[Gatsby77]

In case y'all haven't heard by now, rumor has it the -script to Justice League has been scrapped, so it looks like the film's on hold for now.

 

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Three-Reasons-Justice-League-Movie-Won-t-Open-2015-Or-Probably-Ever-35636.html

[Sqeggs]

In case y'all haven't heard by now, rumor has it the -script to Justice League has been scrapped, so it looks like the film's on hold for now.

 

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Three-Reasons-Justice-League-Movie-Won-t-Open-2015-Or-Probably-Ever-35636.html

 

I agree with the blogger's statement that it's better to wait and do it right than to rush out something just to compete with the Avengers. If they could somehow get Christian Bale to commit, the movie would have instant cred.

[accessndx]

I recall the same criticisms made before the first X-men movie.....all the naysayers.

It's quite literally the same broken record of speculation until the final product.

 

I do have to agree that I'm in no rush to see a JLA movie that isn't up to snuff, that being said if the right folks are hired and put to the task it isn't an impossible one.

 

We'll see how wet the appetites of Warner Bros. and DC get when the 2nd wave of Marvel properties gets underway.

[accessndx]

The more I think about it, the more I call B.S. on the whole negative take...

 

You've got Warner Bros. studios that is behind anything that gets developed. They are a powerhouse alone simply because of their success with the Dark Knight Trilogy. I don't have to reach beyond that to see that their efforts will be fruitful in the end.

 

Yes, they are taking a different approach.....No they haven't developed things as well as Marvel/Disney has in terms of a long term/building momentum release for numerous properties.....BUT the intellectual property is certainly ripe for picking......and you've got so much money on the line as evidenced by past performance. $ talks, the rest walks as far as I'm concerned. WB is in the habit of making that off of movies and other media....with the insurgence of interest in comics overall on television and on the big screen there's absolutely no way they aren't going to continue to make moves forward to capitalize on that.

 

I do agree they may be in a wait and see pattern with Man of Steel....because admittedly for whatever reason that last Superman never took off.

 

They have committed to rebooting the Batman franchise.....how many F-ing incarnations of Batman are we going to see? They would only be doing this to bring congruity to their DC universe.....similar to how Marvel rebooted Spiderman for seemingly no reason.....it's obvious we've seen alot of Spiderman just like Batman.....they did it simply to have the latitude to incorporate the properties together.....just as they are rebooting FF......since they had the last human torch from the prior FF movies become Captain America....they have to reboot so they can have an entire Marvel cinematic universe that is cohesive.

 

I see each studio making broad strokes to create the road ahead for their properties en masse and with maximum uniformity.

 

It's quite possible that DC feels the comic movie 'bubble' will burst after massive flooding of the market by Marvel....which has 3 or more waves of movies planned. That is a salient reason why they may have taken the fast track....get while the getting is good because Marvel is mopping up the box office.....

Ultimately these things take their own time to evolve disregardless of the desires of anyone.....

 

I'm certain a -script will solidify, a director will be attached and things will move along at the pace they can.

[ComicConnoisseur]

The more I think about it, the more I call B.S. on the whole negative take...

 

You've got Warner Bros. studios that is behind anything that gets developed. They are a powerhouse alone simply because of their success with the Dark Knight Trilogy. I don't have to reach beyond that to see that their efforts will be fruitful in the end.

 

Yes, they are taking a different approach.....No they haven't developed things as well as Marvel/Disney has in terms of a long term/building momentum release for numerous properties.....BUT the intellectual property is certainly ripe for picking......and you've got so much money on the line as evidenced by past performance. $ talks, the rest walks as far as I'm concerned. WB is in the habit of making that off of movies and other media....with the insurgence of interest in comics overall on television and on the big screen there's absolutely no way they aren't going to continue to make moves forward to capitalize on that.

 

I do agree they may be in a wait and see pattern with Man of Steel....because admittedly for whatever reason that last Superman never took off.

 

They have committed to rebooting the Batman franchise.....how many F-ing incarnations of Batman are we going to see? They would only be doing this to bring congruity to their DC universe.....similar to how Marvel rebooted Spiderman for seemingly no reason.....it's obvious we've seen alot of Spiderman just like Batman.....they did it simply to have the latitude to incorporate the properties together.....just as they are rebooting FF......since they had the last human torch from the prior FF movies become Captain America....they have to reboot so they can have an entire Marvel cinematic universe that is cohesive.

 

I see each studio making broad strokes to create the road ahead for their properties en masse and with maximum uniformity.

 

It's quite possible that DC feels the comic movie 'bubble' will burst after massive flooding of the market by Marvel....which has 3 or more waves of movies planned. That is a salient reason why they may have taken the fast track....get while the getting is good because Marvel is mopping up the box office.....

Ultimately these things take their own time to evolve disregardless of the desires of anyone.....

 

I'm certain a -script will solidify, a director will be attached and things will move along at the pace they can.

If they put Superman and Batman in it we are looking at 500 million world wide box office minimum.The more I think about it the more it seems like a good idea that they junked the bad JLA -script. That could mean that this time WB is going to take great care in the Justice League franchise like they have with the Batman franchise! (thumbs u

[tth2]

The simple problem with DC superheroes becoming big movie franchises is that they're hokey. I say this as a big DC fan.

 

The sad, brutal reality is that they came from an earlier, more innocent era. Whatever you want to call it, they just don't come across as being cool and don't translate well to modern audiences. This includes the Big Kahuna, Superman, who really hasn't been a box office success since the first couple of movies back in the 70s, when the world was still relatively simple and not even 2 decades away from the beginning of the Marvel Revolution. He's too powerful, too perfect and too wholesome for an audience that wants complicated and dark mixed with the heroic.

 

The one notable exception? Batman, of course, who has always been atypical of the standard DC superhero. And not surprisingly, he's the one DC hero who has been an unqualified movie success because he's not too powerful, he's not perfect, he's very complicated and he's very dark while at the same time heroic.

 

I would note that the least successful Marvel superhero movie of the post-Iron Man generation of films was Captain America, who in many respects is the most DC-like hero and thus suffers from a lot of the same modern audience issues (except that he's not too powerful).

[accessndx]

I just don't agree that they're hokey. Point in case: Batman. Batman's been hewn from the same era and has stood the test of time.

The issue has always been EXPOSURE.

Who can say that the earliest Superman movies with Christopher Reeve #1/#2 were bad? They were box-office smashes of the day.

 

ANYTHING can be translated into today's society with modern overtones fairly easily.

 

Ever hear of the "NEW 52"? Is that hokey or antiquated?

 

If your complaint is that the 'costumes' don't translate into modern analogues well, then that's another easy retool: look at both Thor and Captain America in the marvel movies......both contemporary takes on the characters.

 

It takes some folks with talent, dedication and a love for the characters to accomplish what people say is "impossible".

 

I still call B.S. and think there's been nothing but negative hype from the folks that stand to reap the biggest reward from a DC/WB flop......Disney/Marvel.

 

If you think otherwise, you may want to revise your naivete.

[AmazingSaul]

I am still buying Brave and the Bold 28 cgc copies right now. When the teaser trailer hits I am pretty sure it will be in demand. Just sell them before the movie comes out. If its good then it might increase even more. But I rather be safe than sorry. Right now is a good time to save a few copies for the future.

[accessndx]

I am still buying Brave and the Bold 28 cgc copies right now. When the teaser trailer hits I am pretty sure it will be in demand. Just sell them before the movie comes out. If its good then it might increase even more. But I rather be safe than sorry. Right now is a good time to save a few copies for the future.

 

+1

 

On the heels of fake bad news, I would CERTAINLY suggest purchasing immediately....as a temporary dip is sure to follow. I wouldn't wait right until the movie inevitably comes out to purchase.

 

Party on Garth!!

[kimik]

The simple problem with DC superheroes becoming big movie franchises is that they're hokey. I say this as a big DC fan.

 

The sad, brutal reality is that they came from an earlier, more innocent era. Whatever you want to call it, they just don't come across as being cool and don't translate well to modern audiences. This includes the Big Kahuna, Superman, who really hasn't been a box office success since the first couple of movies back in the 70s, when the world was still relatively simple and not even 2 decades away from the beginning of the Marvel Revolution. He's too powerful, too perfect and too wholesome for an audience that wants complicated and dark mixed with the heroic.

 

The one notable exception? Batman, of course, who has always been atypical of the standard DC superhero. And not surprisingly, he's the one DC hero who has been an unqualified movie success because he's not too powerful, he's not perfect, he's very complicated and he's very dark while at the same time heroic.

 

I would note that the least successful Marvel superhero movie of the post-Iron Man generation of films was Captain America, who in many respects is the most DC-like hero and thus suffers from a lot of the same modern audience issues (except that he's not too powerful).

 

Wouldn't the Spider-Man relaunch be considered the least successful post-IM Marvel flick?

 

I disagree re: DC heroes being too hokey for the big screen - they just need to be handled properly. Even Superman can be successful if done the right way. They just need to look at them as a multi-movie story arc that builds the character along the way rather than one offs.

[tth2]

I just don't agree that they're hokey. Point in case: Batman. Batman's been hewn from the same era and has stood the test of time.

Damn, dude, did you even read my post?

 

The one notable exception? Batman, of course, who has always been atypical of the standard DC superhero. And not surprisingly, he's the one DC hero who has been an unqualified movie success because he's not too powerful, he's not perfect, he's very complicated and he's very dark while at the same time heroic.

 

Who can say that the earliest Superman movies with Christopher Reeve #1/#2 were bad? They were box-office smashes of the day.

Again, it's like you're determined to just run your own little monologue here, and whatever anyone else posts is just to be disregarded if they disagree with you.

 

Here was my point about Superman, which you seem to have conveniently skipped over:

 

This includes the Big Kahuna, Superman, who really hasn't been a box office success since the first couple of movies back in the 70s, when the world was still relatively simple and not even 2 decades away from the beginning of the Marvel Revolution. He's too powerful, too perfect and too wholesome for an audience that wants complicated and dark mixed with the heroic.

I guess I should clarify that what I meant in the last sentence is that he's too powerful, too perfect and too wholesome for a modern audience that wants complicated and dark mixed with the heroic

 

ANYTHING can be translated into today's society with modern overtones fairly easily.

But that misses the whole point of the DC superheroes. Their attraction and their charm was their hokeyness. If they start acting all soap-opera-ish, then they're Marvel. If they start acting all dark and pathological, then they're Wolverine.

 

Or are you saying you've made a big investment in B&B 28s so you don't really care whether Hollywood keeps the spirit of B&B 28 and the JLA, so long as they make ANY JLA movie so you can cash in?

 

Because quite frankly I would rather that they never make a JLA movie than to make the POS that was Green Lantern. (And he was a DC hero that I thought would translate into the modern big screen as well as any DC hero other than Batman, because he has the whole sci-fi thing going for him).

 

If your complaint is that the 'costumes' don't translate into modern analogues well, then that's another easy retool: look at both Thor and Captain America in the marvel movies......both contemporary takes on the characters.

Uh, no, that wasn't my point.

 

[tth2]

Wouldn't the Spider-Man relaunch be considered the least successful post-IM Marvel flick?

I'm pretty sure the Spidey relaunch still had a bigger box office domestically than Captain America, and way bigger global box office than Captain America.

 

I disagree re: DC heroes being too hokey for the big screen - they just need to be handled properly. Even Superman can be successful if done the right way. They just need to look at them as a multi-movie story arc that builds the character along the way rather than one offs.

I'm willing to be convinced, but I would say that all of the empirical evidence thus far supports my corner. Superman relaunch--resounding dud. It's not like they put the -script or direction into the hands of some hack or some snob who thought he was too good for comics.

 

Green Lantern--resounding dud.

 

What are the only commercially successful DC comic book movies of recent years? The Batman movies (see my point above that Batman is not like other DC heroes) and Watchmen, which is not old school DC.

[accessndx]

Damn, dude, did you even read my post?

 

Yep, I read everything posted in the thread I created. I didn't think I needed to directly comment on everything posted just to make you feel like you weren't left out.

 

Again, it's like you're determined to just run your own little monologue here, and whatever anyone else posts is just to be disregarded if they disagree with you.

 

You can honestly throw platitudes at someone with your large diatribe?

If you stated something and I reiterated it and we were on the same page, great you get a cookie.

If you didn't and we're not, that's fine as well. Don't get the impression I was or wasn't responding to you directly or indirectly. I was just putting out my own thoughts free-form. Next time I'll be sure to tuck you into bed and get you a glass of water so you don't throw a hissy fit when I don't quote and reply.

 

 

[paperheart]

Damn, dude, did you even read my post?

 

Yep, I read everything posted in the thread I created. I didn't think I needed to directly comment on everything posted just to make you feel like you weren't left out.

 

Again, it's like you're determined to just run your own little monologue here, and whatever anyone else posts is just to be disregarded if they disagree with you.

 

You can honestly throw platitudes at someone with your large diatribe?

If you stated something and I reiterated it and we were on the same page, great you get a cookie.

If you didn't and we're not, that's fine as well. Don't get the impression I was or wasn't responding to you directly or indirectly. I was just putting out my own thoughts free-form. Next time I'll be sure to tuck you into bed and get you a glass of water so you don't throw a hissy fit when I don't quote and reply.

BTW, this post sure surely qualify for that "quote" and "reply" dose you so desperately need.

 

do you bother to read your double posts?

 

 

[accessndx]

do you bother to read your double posts?

 

Nope. Good catch tho bro.

And before sh*t gets too hairy and unfriendly up in here.....I have read practically everything here....I am not intentionally disregarding.....but I have commented on things I feel are pertinent. I can't please everyone, nor am I attempting to. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and whereas I don't agree all the time, I'll defend your right to that opinion.

If I haven't commented it's quite possible I had nothing to say regarding whatever point was made.

Anyway, continue using this thread as a cathartic way of bashing or supporting the JLA movie.....it's productive no matter what direction it takes because the discussions here are 1000x better than what's been offered by "experts" and other folks in the media commenting on the same.

[Boba]

do you bother to read your double posts?

 

No reason to get snippy, people are just trying to state opinions here. we're all entitled to them aren't we?

Anyway, it's all good and like I said earlier (I think I did, maybe someone else did - oh my ) I hope WB pays attention to the fans this time.