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On 10/30/2020 at 5:07 PM, OtherEric said:

A fun, goofy issue?  With some oddball crossover appeal?  And enough of a rights headache over the story that it hasn't been reprinted in decades, and never in English?

I think the number of people who think it's goofy will keep it from ever being a super-hot book, but for the reasons I listed I think it will always have people grabbing it when they see it.

Reader copy I snagged in a dollar bin a few weeks ago, to add some color to the post:

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I wasn’t aloud to watch SNL in 1977 😂

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21 minutes ago, Xenosmilus said:

I wasn’t aloud to watch SNL in 1977 😂

I was 6 at the time, so I never saw it then either.  I did see some of the "best of " shows in the 80's, so I was familiar with this version of the cast when I finally did find the book years later.

I do find it funny that, at the time, the idea of Stan Lee hosting SNL like he does in the comic would have been viewed as improbable at best.  But in the decade or so before he died, it's more "I wonder why he never did?"

Here's the Spider-Man comic I would have likely gone for at the time over this one, in any case.  (This issue should have been on the stands around the same time.)

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On ‎10‎/‎30‎/‎2020 at 5:07 PM, OtherEric said:

A fun, goofy issue?  With some oddball crossover appeal?  And enough of a rights headache over the story that it hasn't been reprinted in decades, and never in English?

I think the number of people who think it's goofy will keep it from ever being a super-hot book, but for the reasons I listed I think it will always have people grabbing it when they see it.

Reader copy I snagged in a dollar bin a few weeks ago, to add some color to the post:

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so marvel did this without getting any permission from NBC? And whoever was writing the word bubbles didn't understand apostrophes?

 

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1 minute ago, the blob said:

ok, now I see, they got permission for the issue, but not for any reprints

Exactly.  And this one, in particular, I doubt they'll ever be able to sort out the rights to everybody's likeness. 

It might be a fun idea to create a list of "unreprintable" stories like this, where the rights either temporarily or permanently make a story unusable.  I vaguely recall Marvel making at least something of a big deal of them being able to reprint Marvel Two-In-One #21 with the Doc Savage crossover a couple years ago.

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"I do find it funny that, at the time, the idea of Stan Lee hosting SNL like he does in the comic would have been viewed as improbable at best.  But in the decade or so before he died, it's more "I wonder why he never did?"  -- I guess he was not able to get himself cameos in the Marvel life action TV shows in the 70s. I don't really remember Spiderman. I did watch the Hulk, although not enough to remember that there were subsequent TV movies made. And I really didn't remember the Dr. Strange TV movie.... or was it a bad 70s porno, kind of looks like it...

 

 

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David Bowie got the rights to make a Daredevil / black Widow TV show in the 70s that he would have his wife star in, but shockingly, none of the networks bit during the one year he had the rights .. I bet he would have let stan get some cameos....

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Pretty crazy where we are right now. EVERY (8) available copy of Hagar The Horrible's first appearance (in a comic book - although reprints of strips I believe) sold yesterday after the news of Jim Henson developing an animated family sitcom.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/63/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=hagar+&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

https://deadline.com/2020/11/hagar-the-horrible-king-features-the-jim-henson-company-animated-series-1234611870/

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8 hours ago, Hey Kids, Comics! said:

Pretty crazy where we are right now. EVERY (8) available copy of Hagar The Horrible's first appearance (in a comic book - although reprints of strips I believe) sold yesterday after the news of Jim Henson developing an animated family sitcom.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/63/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=hagar+&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

https://deadline.com/2020/11/hagar-the-horrible-king-features-the-jim-henson-company-animated-series-1234611870/

At $5-$10 even before the news that seemed like a very sensible price. I didn't even know it existed. With that said, I guess Hagar never really did much in comic books, even if the reprint books used to sell. Unfortunately, Henson's muppets stuff doesn't seem to mean as much to kids nowadays as it does to their parents. I feel bad I never watched the new muppet show before it got cancelled. I used to love the original as a kid. I couldn't get past the first episode of the new dark crystal either, super sleepy time.

 

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On 11/2/2020 at 11:59 AM, fastballspecial said:

Wonder Woman 204 Sell now that is all.

 

Thanks for the heads-up. A few years ago I went through a friend's OO collection, and he had a copy of this. I thought about getting it graded for him but ultimately only graded a couple Batman books (1st Ra's, and the classic Adams cover that's an homage to an early Detective cover; I forget the #). Will have to let him know in case he wants to sell.

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On 11/2/2020 at 1:48 AM, the blob said:

so marvel did this without getting any permission from NBC?

I forget where I saw it (maybe an editorial page in one of the early Valiant comics?), but Shooter recalled how this issue came about. Apparently some of the SNL people were big Marvel geeks, and the Marvel people were big SNL geeks, and on a whim one called the other about collaborating on doing something, and they were all on board for it. Came together very quickly.

I wonder if the Letterman issue of Avengers would be in the same boat regarding reprinting.

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On 11/2/2020 at 2:03 AM, OtherEric said:

Exactly.  And this one, in particular, I doubt they'll ever be able to sort out the rights to everybody's likeness. 

It might be a fun idea to create a list of "unreprintable" stories like this, where the rights either temporarily or permanently make a story unusable.  I vaguely recall Marvel making at least something of a big deal of them being able to reprint Marvel Two-In-One #21 with the Doc Savage crossover a couple years ago.

The '90s Valiant Comics with the Gold Key characters are kinda in that boat now.

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11 minutes ago, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

I forget where I saw it (maybe an editorial page in one of the early Valiant comics?), but Shooter recalled how this issue came about. Apparently some of the SNL people were big Marvel geeks, and the Marvel people were big SNL geeks, and on a whim one called the other about collaborating on doing something, and they were all on board for it. Came together very quickly.

I wonder if the Letterman issue of Avengers would be in the same boat regarding reprinting.

The Letterman issue would have less individuals, I would think, so might have a better chance.  It looks like that one HAS been reprinted a couple times.  They may have reached an agreement with Letterman and Paul Shaffer when they did those so future reprints will be easier; if still slightly less likely due to additional costs. 

It doesn't surprise me that at least some of the SNL people of that era were big Marvel geeks; the comic book parodies from National Lampoon just a few years earlier were spot-on.  And SNL was what a lot of the NatLamp crew did when they left NatLamp.

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On 11/2/2020 at 2:03 AM, OtherEric said:

Exactly.  And this one, in particular, I doubt they'll ever be able to sort out the rights to everybody's likeness. 

It might be a fun idea to create a list of "unreprintable" stories like this, where the rights either temporarily or permanently make a story unusable.  I vaguely recall Marvel making at least something of a big deal of them being able to reprint Marvel Two-In-One #21 with the Doc Savage crossover a couple years ago.

Lots of BA/CA Rom appearances haven't been reprinted, IIRC.

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