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On 8/2/2017 at 6:37 PM, awakeintheashes said:
On 6/26/2017 at 7:36 PM, Philflound said:

I have no idea what you're saying here.

WTTB

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Surprised to see CGC 9.8 Cry for Dawn #1 sell for $825.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112504121300

They don't come up often... GPA only has 10 sales recorded for the past 5 years, but this is the first to pass $800.

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1 hour ago, valiantman said:

Surprised to see CGC 9.8 Cry for Dawn #1 sell for $825.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112504121300

They don't come up often... GPA only has 10 sales recorded for the past 5 years, but this is the first to pass $800.

I think part of the allure and price was due to the fact that #2, 3, 4, and 5 (all in 9.8) were up as well from the same seller.  Great looking books,  JML stuff in terms of collectability is alive and well.

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13 minutes ago, bluehorseshoe said:

I think part of the allure and price was due to the fact that #2, 3, 4, and 5 (all in 9.8) were up as well from the same seller.  Great looking books,  JML stuff in terms of collectability is alive and well.

I never noticed it before, but there are 213 CGC graded copies of Cry For Dawn #1 (universal plus signature) and two-thirds are CGC 9.2 or lower.  That's amazing for a Copper Age book... only one-third of graded copies at CGC 9.4 or higher... not to mention all the copies that weren't submitted at all due to condition problems.

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7 minutes ago, valiantman said:

I never noticed it before, but there are 213 CGC graded copies of Cry For Dawn #1 (universal plus signature) and two-thirds are CGC 9.2 or lower.  That's amazing for a Copper Age book... only one-third of graded copies at CGC 9.4 or higher... not to mention all the copies that weren't submitted at all due to condition problems.

I thought it was incredible to see CFD 1-5 all 9.8 up at once on ebay of all places, and based on that data, its even more remarkable.  Seller might have considered Clink for those.  As you know, you see those books up for auction here and there in 9.8, but that collection was the result of some collector spending some time finding those books in that condition.  Even with the thicker cardstock covers, CFD is just hard to find in NM+ shape, especially the limited editions of 6, 7, and 8.

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2 hours ago, valiantman said:

I never noticed it before, but there are 213 CGC graded copies of Cry For Dawn #1 (universal plus signature) and two-thirds are CGC 9.2 or lower.  That's amazing for a Copper Age book... only one-third of graded copies at CGC 9.4 or higher... not to mention all the copies that weren't submitted at all due to condition problems.

Considering the art and the content, I suspect most copies were "coffee table" copies, particularly in college dorms, etc. :grin:  Which would account for lower grades all around.

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38 minutes ago, divad said:

Considering the art and the content, I suspect most copies were "coffee table" copies, particularly in college dorms, etc. :grin:  Which would account for lower grades all around.

Nah, they were "coffee table" books for men 30+  

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3 hours ago, Kevin76 said:

Nah, they were "coffee table" books for men 30+  

Do you want to know how many BA keys I had "ruined" by my college roommates? lol And that doesn't even count my Leather Nuns! :grin:

 

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I feel like this book is on the uptick again. After years of not really seeing them around, I see them on a lot of dealer walls these days. So either buyers are looking for them, or dealers are pushing them.

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12 hours ago, divad said:

Do you want to know how many BA keys I had "ruined" by my college roommates? lol And that doesn't even count my Leather Nuns! :grin:

 

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2 hours ago, F For Fake said:

I feel like this book is on the uptick again. After years of not really seeing them around, I see them on a lot of dealer walls these days. So either buyers are looking for them, or dealers are pushing them.

Cry For Dawn?

It seemed like the majority of high grade CGC copies were owned by only about 5 guys for the past 10 years or so... and looking at the CGC census, there are so few high grade copies, it's entirely possible the vast majority of high grade CGC slabs were in the hands of 4 or 5 guys.

Considering how expensive a lot of the Zenescope books are, I'm surprised Cry For Dawn has been as "cheap" as it has been for so long.  The whole Cry For Dawn set is 9 issues, and still under 25 comics with all the later prints and limited editions.  There are literally hundreds of Zenescope books, variants galore, and basically no reason to collect them that isn't also a reason to collect CFD.

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42 minutes ago, valiantman said:

Cry For Dawn?

It seemed like the majority of high grade CGC copies were owned by only about 5 guys for the past 10 years or so... and looking at the CGC census, there are so few high grade copies, it's entirely possible the vast majority of high grade CGC slabs were in the hands of 4 or 5 guys.

Considering how expensive a lot of the Zenescope books are, I'm surprised Cry For Dawn has been as "cheap" as it has been for so long.  The whole Cry For Dawn set is 9 issues, and still under 25 comics with all the later prints and limited editions.  There are literally hundreds of Zenescope books, variants galore, and basically no reason to collect them that isn't also a reason to collect CFD.

There's also the fact that CFD was prime Linsner, whereas most of the Zenescope books look like hot garbage. I mean, they're not Boundless bad, but they're still pretty bad.

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1 hour ago, F For Fake said:

There's also the fact that CFD was prime Linsner, whereas most of the Zenescope books look like hot garbage. I mean, they're not Boundless bad, but they're still pretty bad.

I'm more interested in the fact that I see Zenescope books (of any quality) selling for hundreds of dollars when the books are meaningless in the industry outside that niche.  It's as if someone was paying thousands of dollars for recent Spider-man issues when they could get nice copies of the first nine issues from 1963 for less money.

OK, maybe that was a bad example. lol

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13 minutes ago, valiantman said:
2 hours ago, F For Fake said:

There's also the fact that CFD was prime Linsner, whereas most of the Zenescope books look like hot garbage. I mean, they're not Boundless bad, but they're still pretty bad.

I'm more interested in the fact that I see Zenescope books (of any quality) selling for hundreds of dollars when the books are meaningless in the industry outside that niche.  It's as if someone was paying thousands of dollars for recent Spider-man issues when they could get nice copies of the first nine issues from 1963 for less money.

OK, maybe that was a bad example. lol

they are niche, but the niche happens to be large enough and rich enough to sustain the market, apparently.  I don't dig their stuff personally, but I appreciate that they've identified a market, and are doing their best to cater directly to it successfully and consistently, and more or less stay in their (I assume) profitable lane.

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I guess it's time to sell  my last few CFDs then. hm

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*heads to back stock*
*pulls out CFD 1s*
*looks at calendar*
*sees that CGC is onsite grading in Baltimore*
*cackles* bwah-hah-hah

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Zenescope: "At Least Our Artists Aren't Tracing Porn!"

Boundless: "Our Artists Are Definitely Tracing Porn"

There's a Greg Land joke to be made in there as well, but I'm lazy.

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1 hour ago, FlyingDonut said:

*heads to back stock*
*pulls out CFD 1s*
*looks at calendar*
*sees that CGC is onsite grading in Baltimore*
*cackles* bwah-hah-hah

What kind of quantities of increases can we expect on the CGC census?

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8 hours ago, valiantman said:

What kind of quantities of increases can we expect on the CGC census?

That all depends if I ever decide to slab all of MY stash...?

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13 minutes ago, SharpComics.com said:

That all depends if I ever decide to slab all of MY stash...?

Clearly, you're one of those 4 or 5 guys who have the bulk of the back issues. lol

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