Green Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Peds + sigs!! Killer books!! To me these books are no longer peds. Their ped history has been skewed. They were newsstand fresh OO comics but now they've got black marker on them. They are still the same books with the same provenance. I think the term "OO" is thrown around way to much. They ceased to be OO books the moment they were sold. Now they are just books with a solid history owned by someone who probably likes them the way they are. To each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namisgr Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Peds + sigs!! Killer books!! To me these books are no longer peds. Their ped history has been skewed. They were newsstand fresh OO comics but now they've got black marker on them. They are still the same books with the same provenance. I think the term "OO" is thrown around way to much. They ceased to be OO books the moment they were sold. Now they are just books with a solid history owned by someone who probably likes them the way they are. To each his own. Respectfully disagree in the case of pedigrees and signature series. Every comic is owned temporarily, and the owner is a custodian. For pedigree comics with a provenance, the custodial responsibility can be argued to be more important than the circumstance of the owner of the moment. According to this argument, preserving the provenance and historical nature of a pedigree comic is a responsibility of the custodian. To those holding this view, pressing and creator signatures run counter to the custodial responsibility. Would you really want a creator signature on a top census example of a rare GA comic from the Church collection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShadowKnows Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Peds + sigs!! Killer books!! To me these books are no longer peds. Their ped history has been skewed. They were newsstand fresh OO comics but now they've got black marker on them. They are still the same books with the same provenance. I think the term "OO" is thrown around way to much. They ceased to be OO books the moment they were sold. Now they are just books with a solid history owned by someone who probably likes them the way they are. To each his own. Respectfully disagree in the case of pedigrees and signature series. Every comic is owned temporarily, and the owner is a custodian. For pedigree comics with a provenance, the custodial responsibility can be argued to be more important than the circumstance of the owner of the moment. According to this argument, preserving the provenance and historical nature of a pedigree comic is a responsibility of the custodian. To those holding this view, pressing and creator signatures run counter to the custodial responsibility. Would you really want a creator signature on a top census example of a rare GA comic from the Church collection? Fade to Tally -Ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Man Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Guys, I have a pedigree question: do you know of any pedigree where the owner wrote an approx. 7-10 digit number (no discernible pattern or order) on the upper left corner of the front cover in pencil? A friend of mine recently acquired a small collection and a handful of very high grade (8.0 and higher) late SA / early BA Marvel books came with this marking on them. Any help would be appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paratrooper Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Peds + sigs!! Killer books!! To me these books are no longer peds. Their ped history has been skewed. They were newsstand fresh OO comics but now they've got black marker on them. They are still the same books with the same provenance. I think the term "OO" is thrown around way to much. They ceased to be OO books the moment they were sold. Now they are just books with a solid history owned by someone who probably likes them the way they are. To each his own. Respectfully disagree in the case of pedigrees and signature series. Every comic is owned temporarily, and the owner is a custodian. For pedigree comics with a provenance, the custodial responsibility can be argued to be more important than the circumstance of the owner of the moment. According to this argument, preserving the provenance and historical nature of a pedigree comic is a responsibility of the custodian. To those holding this view, pressing and creator signatures run counter to the custodial responsibility. Would you really want a creator signature on a top census example of a rare GA comic from the Church collection? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkKnightReturns Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 NO ! Like Green said to each their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) Respectfully disagree in the case of pedigrees and signature series. Every comic is owned temporarily, and the owner is a custodian. For pedigree comics with a provenance, the custodial responsibility can be argued to be more important than the circumstance of the owner of the moment. According to this argument, preserving the provenance and historical nature of a pedigree comic is a responsibility of the custodian. To those holding this view, pressing and creator signatures run counter to the custodial responsibility. Well put and I totally agree. With so many low grade, restored examples of books out there why use a high grade pedigree for a signature. Edited November 3, 2010 by bomber-bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icculus308win Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Cheetah as always, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DarkKnightReturns Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Respectfully disagree in the case of pedigrees and signature series. Every comic is owned temporarily, and the owner is a custodian. For pedigree comics with a provenance, the custodial responsibility can be argued to be more important than the circumstance of the owner of the moment. According to this argument, preserving the provenance and historical nature of a pedigree comic is a responsibility of the custodian. To those holding this view, pressing and creator signatures run counter to the custodial responsibility. Well put and I totally agree. With so many low grade, restored examples of books out there why use a high grade pedigree for a signature. Exactly. I just got an Avengers 4 in .5 that was signed by Stan Lee. Yep .5 it was missing a non story page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Respectfully disagree in the case of pedigrees and signature series. Every comic is owned temporarily, and the owner is a custodian. For pedigree comics with a provenance, the custodial responsibility can be argued to be more important than the circumstance of the owner of the moment. According to this argument, preserving the provenance and historical nature of a pedigree comic is a responsibility of the custodian. To those holding this view, pressing and creator signatures run counter to the custodial responsibility. Well put and I totally agree. With so many low grade, restored examples of books out there why use a high grade pedigree for a signature. Exactly. I just got an Avengers 4 in .5 that was signed by Stan Lee. Yep .5 it was missing a non story page. That is one mighty nice .5 though,but perfect for sig. series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
