Getoutandstayout Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) I know that everyone should ultimately collect what he enjoys - I get that. But I'm still a little bummed out that incredibly hard-to-find pre-hero comics like Tales To Astonish #4 or Journey Into Mystery #50 (or any of a hundred other PMHs), for example, don't sell for a fraction of what, say, an Iron Man #55 (1st Thanos) or Hulk #181 (1st Wolverine) does. I can go to a big show and see dozens of copies of both of the latter, while I may not see a single copy of either of the former. I just think that moderate demand + extremely low supply should trump high demand + high supply. I know the open market dictates prices, but it's still leaving me scratching my head in puzzlement over it. Edited November 6, 2018 by Getoutandstayout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyJack Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I personally enjoy the fact that these comics aren’t skyrocketing; I’m still considering picking a few up! But I get you. I don’t know what people are thinking. We need to pump these books as keys! Get in on the flipper dollars! 1950's war comics and bc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 42 minutes ago, Getoutandstayout said: I know that everyone should ultimately collect what he enjoys - I get that. But I'm still a little bummed out that incredibly hard-to-find pre-hero comics like Tales To Astonish #4 or Journey Into Mystery #50 (or any of a hundred other PMHs), for example, don't sell for a fraction of what, say, an Iron Man #55 (1st Thanos) or Hulk #181 (1st Wolverine) does. I can go to a big show and see dozens of copies of both of the latter, while I may not see a single copy of either of the former. I just think that moderate demand + extremely low supply should trump high demand + high supply. I know the open market dictates prices, but it's still leaving me scratching my head in puzzlement over it. Well prices aren't exactly super cheap for PHM books anymore. Most of the PHMs in higher grade (8.0+) typically command around a grand or more in recent auctions. That's a pretty good fraction for the same grade of IM55 or IH181 for a much lower demand book. The scarcity makes it feel like I am really hunting for these as opposed to simply shopping for them. Different hot genres come and go in this hobby - I remember when Bark's Duck books & Little Lulu were being heavily collected. Then the Pre-Code Horror market took off. Good Girl Art is now blazing hot, Baker covers are hitting records. New keys and pseudo-keys have been popping up thanks to the mass media exposure. Classic keys just keep chugging along. We can only hope our time eventually comes around! What we really need is a Twilight Zone/Night Stalker kind of show that highlights these stories to draw more interest/demand. Look at what happened with TTA13 thanks to Guardians of the Galaxy - demand caused a rise of prices and once people realized how tough that book is in high grade, even the mid grade and low grade copies increased in value. Where would the Walking Dead comics be without the show? There is almost zero PHM media exposure to an average collector unless they actively seek them out. The lack of continuity and constant reboots in the Marvel Universe is not helping increase interest in the time before caped crusaders at all. As a former silver age superhero collector, I didn't have the desire to collect TOS before 39 or Strange Tales before 101 until I got a little wiser about the PHM genre and the Atlas Implosion that was resurrected as Marvel Comics. It helps that I also had a dealer with an extensive inventory that guided me to the better PHM stories. Keep the faith and as you said, collect what you enjoy! -bc 1950's war comics, KirbyJack, Sweet Lou 14 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getoutandstayout Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 hours ago, KirbyJack said: I personally enjoy the fact that these comics aren’t skyrocketing; I’m still considering picking a few up! But I get you. I don’t know what people are thinking. We need to pump these books as keys! Get in on the flipper dollars! LOL - yeah, maybe it's a blessing in disguise. Grab 'em while they're being largely ignored by the masses and speculators. bc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucheee1 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 How can it be a bad thing when the books you love to collect are cheap (relatively speaking of course). bc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RICK STARR Posted November 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2018 Here are a few more TTAs' from my registry set. The 8 and 11 are very tough in grade. The # 8 at an 8.5 is the second highest grade. batman_fan, KirbyJack, bc and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatcher Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Spectacular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getoutandstayout Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Very nice. Either you got these a while back when they were still relatively cheap, or your budget is much larger than mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bc Posted November 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 3:33 PM, RICK STARR said: Here are a few more TTAs' from my registry set. The 8 and 11 are very tough in grade. The # 8 at an 8.5 is the second highest grade. All those books rock but the striking colors on this one really caught my eye! Your TTA registry set is awesome! Can't compete with your copies except for a pair Sort of surprised you don't have a 27 in your registry set (or maybe you sold it) - that might finally dethrone the almighty Korvac! Thanks again for posting these museum pieces! -bc batman_fan, TheWatcher, PUNYHUMAN and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICK STARR Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 hours ago, bc said: All those books rock but the striking colors on this one really caught my eye! Your TTA registry set is awesome! Can't compete with your copies except for a pair Sort of surprised you don't have a 27 in your registry set (or maybe you sold it) - that might finally dethrone the almighty Korvac! Thanks again for posting these museum pieces! -bc Those are fantastic copies. I have another raw TTA 21 that came from the Portsmouth VA. collection. I just haven't had it slabbed yet, but it is a real nice copy that could push an 8.5. I had a 7.0 TTA 27 slabbed by the "other" company. Traded it off a year ago. bc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmoore54 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Miss selling all my PHMs... But I mostly collect wine now...when I'm not drinking it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyJack Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Kirby/Lee/Ditko; Premiere Cru creators! bc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, trmoore54 said: Miss selling all my PHMs... But I mostly collect wine now...when I'm not drinking it... My other hobby is self-recycling kegs of Guinness, so I understand your dilemma ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 5:33 PM, trmoore54 said: Miss selling all my PHMs... But I mostly collect wine now...when I'm not drinking it... TOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ….I was just wondering about you a couple days ago... Hope you're doing great, bro . GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) KirbyJack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyJack Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 55 minutes ago, jimjum12 said: TOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ….I was just wondering about you a couple days ago... Hope you're doing great, bro . GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Yes, absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 4:33 PM, trmoore54 said: Miss selling all my PHMs... But I mostly collect wine now...when I'm not drinking it... Good to see you buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmoore54 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Love you guys/gals...yes...I've been away pretty much but I think of you all the time. I'll connect more soon...my mom passing at 90 this past July has given me a pause... I have a lot of friends here and you are not forgotten...this is just a respite in my interaction here. But with Stan's passing I had to get on and join the remembrance... bc, jimjum12, KirbyJack and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just got these in hand from @catrick339's last sales thread. KirbyJack, bc, TheWatcher and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyJack Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Gotta love star-and-bar Atlas with the Monster feel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, KirbyJack said: Gotta love star-and-bar Atlas with the Monster feel! JIM #20 always feels a bit prototypish to me in terms of the later "monster of the month" era. bc and KirbyJack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
