Have you guys seen the Phillippine variants? 5 5

[androolx]

2 hours ago, ganni said:

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Nice, ganni!  The X-Men 75/04274 follows the same Goodwill issue # format as the ASM 108/04074.  X-Men 75 was originally published 04/1972, but ASM 108 was published 05/1972.  The Submariner 49 pictured above was originally published 05/1972, but unfortunately the first part of the Goodwill issue # is unreadable. Otherwise, it might help to decode the Goodwill issue # format.  

Edited December 10, 2020 by androolx

[androolx]

In both 1972 and 1974, Goodwill published Marvel issues which were originally published 04/1972.  Other Marvel issues originally published 04/1972 include Tomb Of Dracula 1 and Marvel Premiere 1.  Could those books exist as Goodwill reprints?

[ganni]

Something new beaters

[Get Marwood & I]

7 hours ago, androolx said:

In both 1972 and 1974, Goodwill published Marvel issues which were originally published 04/1972.  Other Marvel issues originally published 04/1972 include Tomb Of Dracula 1 and Marvel Premiere 1.  Could those books exist as Goodwill reprints?

I've started gathering images and will work on a summary document to help establish what is out there. I suspect it's already been done by one or more of the former thread participants but it's something to do isn't it, while we're here. Keep posting @ganni ! 

[ganni]

Bronze age fashion is ....... wowww

[androolx]

This KCO 202 NB is for sale on eBay. I've seen KCO 203, 205 and 206 NBs, but I am pretty sure I have never seen a 202. 

[Get Marwood & I]

2 hours ago, androolx said:

This KCO 202 NB is for sale on eBay. I've seen KCO 203, 205 and 206 NBs, but I am pretty sure I have never seen a 202. 

That's a nice one 

[androolx]

Here is a nice one for sale on eBay

[androolx]

And another.

[ganni]

When somebody buys this. This is very interesting indeed.

[Get Marwood & I]

Hello 

I’m not sure if anyone will find this of interest but I’ve undertaken a review of the National Book Store reprints for Marvel and thought I would share what I have found.

There are a lot of Filipino reprints out there as we already know, covering many US publishers. I have gathered examples for Marvel, DC, Gold Key and a few others over the last six months or so, and have created separate folders for the key types with National Book Store and Goodwill being the most prevalent.

Here’s a nice National Book Store copy that I picked up recently in the UK – a reprint of Walt Disney’s Donald Duck #169 (US March 1976):

It’s quite unusual to find a Gold Key National Book Store reprint in any instance, let alone in a UK sale lot. I do like the blank original price box with the stamped PHP price being placed nowhere near it 

Anyway, I thought I would start with the Marvel National Book Store set because I’ve owned a few in my time and they’re usually everyone’s favorites.  They come from a particularly fertile period in Marvel’s history with variants of all descriptions doing the rounds at the time. Not that these NBS books are variants of course but I recall fondly the time when we all (in our Spidey completist group) thought that this ASM #157 was a misprinted 30 Cent Variant!:

Those were the days 

I’ve gathered examples for these 26 Marvel titles so far, from various sources including this thread:

Each title folder has the current known issues filed like so:

And they are all plotted on the following spreadsheet (my usual capture one):

Recording the issues in line with their original US cover dates allows us to see a number of things:

• The US cover date window for extant NBS reprint copies is 13 months, with copies from October 1975 ~ October 1976 currently recorded
• None of the 26 titles have more than 7 NBS issues extant (so far)
• For the 11 monthly titles, all the NBS issues exist within the same seven consecutive month window of December 1975~June 1976 (with one exception – FF#164 – see comment below)
• For the remaining non-monthly titles, that seven month window is broken, but each title again has no more than seven issues extant

If we look at the spreadsheet extract of the 11 monthly titles, we can see a clear pattern indicating that a seven issue run may have been the norm / what was originally solicited with the Amazing Spider-Man, Avengers and Daredevil all having an identical date block. Of the 11 titles, only the Fantastic Four #164 breaks the monthly title date window but we can see that issue #165 is currently missing which raises the possibility that issue #164 was selected in error at the time of solicitation (click to enlarge):

Or, perhaps, there was something about that issue that offended (we have seen examples of covers being altered – perhaps FF#165 has something inappropriate about it?)

If the seven issue block theory is correct then we can potentially speculate which of the missing issues will surface and, theoretically, a likely maximum issue number. Quite interesting, and potentially helps the online search activities of those in the hunt.

The non-monthly titles have a less consistent pattern and there is the possibility that a further example could materialize which could break the current 13 month overall window. But it does look at this stage like the seven issue maximum per title may be the overarching intention, with the monthly titles all following the same date block and the non-monthly ones breaking out where necessary to make up their number.

I always wonder how the original negotiations would have gone back at the time of solicitation and logic suggests that our Filipino agent would have requested a specific number of books – “Give me 7 issues for 26 titles within this slot please” – something like that. We’ll likely never know how it went down. Either way, Marvel Spectacular appears an odd title to have selected, ending as it does with issue #19:

My research is full of these kinds of oddities however, so nothing which appears superficially illogical ever surprises me.

Of the 26 currently known titles, it’s interesting how many of the ‘Marvel…’ ones were selected with Adventure all the way through to Two-In-One making up half of them. Some quite high profile Marvel character titles are currently missing from the reprint roster and yet we have Marvel Adventure making an appearance, itself a US reprint title of the Daredevil that already features as a solo title NBS selection. Weird.

So, that’s what this brief review has identified.

I plan to undertake a similar exercise for the DC National Book Store examples that I have captured so far at some point – there are considerably more of them however (oddly, perhaps, that DC would outnumber Marvel?) so that may take a bit of time to complete.

In the meantime, here are the Marvel National Book Store numbers that I can confirm exist:

98 examples so far then. If anyone reading has any that are not on the list, a picture here would be lovely.

See ya 

[porcupine48]

@Get Marwood & I I've eaten too many cosmic gummies to read with any understanding at the moment,but great work mister!

[Get Marwood & I]

5 minutes ago, porcupine48 said:

@Get Marwood & I I've eaten too many cosmic gummies to read with any understanding at the moment,but great work mister!

It's something to do isn't it Jim. Save us one, of the gummies, won't you...

[androolx]

@Get Marwood & IFabulous!  Hopefully your hard work brings some books not on the list to the light of day and gaps will be filled.  Thank you!

[Get Marwood & I]

Just now, androolx said:

@Get Marwood & IFabulous!  Hopefully your hard work brings some books not on the list to the light of day and gaps will be filled.  Thank you!

Ta. I'm sure one of the former thread members will have undertaken a similar activity at some point but I haven't seen anything posted online so thought I'd have a go. It's nice to get a taste of what the numbers might be, if the assumptions mapped out are anywhere near correct. I don't collect them, or plan to - I just find it interesting and, process-wise, therapeutic. 

[ganni]

7 hours ago, Get Marwood & I said:

Ta. I'm sure one of the former thread members will have undertaken a similar activity at some point but I haven't seen anything posted online so thought I'd have a go. It's nice to get a taste of what the numbers might be, if the assumptions mapped out are anywhere near correct. I don't collect them, or plan to - I just find it interesting and, process-wise, therapeutic. 

Sounds like me being here since I started working at home.  There is a NBS copy of Marvel Robocop.

[Get Marwood & I]

4 hours ago, ganni said:

There is a NBS copy of Marvel Robocop.

Are you sure Ganni? You're closer to the action, but Robocop wasn't around until the late eighties so wouldn’t fit the Marvel NBS date range that I've captured. Got any pictures? 

[Get Marwood & I]

23 hours ago, Get Marwood & I said:

98 examples so far then. If anyone reading has any that are not on the list, a picture here would be lovely.

I was looking through some old Spidey files earlier and I found an old folder in which I'd placed Spidey NBS examples. I found a word doc with this rather crude mapping on it:

I wasn't as technically advanced back then 

Anyway, apart from my completely forgetting I'd even done it, it had two extra copies on it that were absent from my new spreadsheet - MA #5 and MTA #28 - so I now have exactly 100 National Book Store examples plotted. Now, is that nice round figure a coincidence, or......

[ganni]

Copper age.  1990

[androolx]

@Get Marwood & I you can add Incredible Hulk 195.  This is for sale on eBay.  I love the blank bar!