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I side with FD -- he gave the information concisely and was responsive. The buyer seemed to way overboard about this as if it was a life or death issue. People have lives outside of ebay- this is not the end of the world.

 

Sure-- he could have gotten all flowery about the response and been the one pushing the conversation I suppose. But at some point, the buyer has to understand that:

 

1) things happen

2) being patient while those issues are worked out is the right attitude

3) threatening a negative is a HUGE no-no on eBay

 

It is all about being reasonable as far as I am concerned. Miss-sent books don't magically get rerouted. I mean, how can the buyer not understand that another customer got some of his books by mistake and might not even have them yet to know there is an issue?

 

Mountains out of molehills.

 

There is somewhat of a seller vs. buyer dynamic going on here. As a person that only buys on eBay, I would expect some kind of gesture from FD. When I buy books, I calculate the shipping price into the cost. One less book than expected increases the buyers cost on the other 3 books as well. I know that in this case we are not talking about a lot of money, but it is the principle.

 

I charge flat rate shipping and combined them all, so at most we're talking about a fifty cent delta per unit ($1.50 per unit vs. $2 per unit). I honestly don't know what more I could do. I refunded his money - and if the book IS returned I will send it to him. Note that I didn't ask for the book that I sent HIM by mistake back.

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There is somewhat of a seller vs. buyer dynamic going on here.

 

There is - probably as a result of so many knucklehead buyers on ebay, there's a strong trend to back the (boardie) seller.

 

If the (boardie) seller screws up, it's "No harm, no foul" but if the buyer screws up, it's "Burn the witch!".

 

In this case, a simple extension of courtesy by FD (e.g., refunding postage) probably would have gone a long way.

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Note that I didn't ask for the book that I sent HIM by mistake back.

 

You don't mention value the of the other book, but in any event keeping a book I don't want doesn't make-up for a book I do want (bid on and won).

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I hope this isn't a boardie but click_4_comics is a nut. One of the worst transactions in terms of customer service I've had in 17 years.

 

If you buy from him, just make sure you don't want to do a return because it's less fun than getting a root canal.

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http://www.ebay.com/usr/viper744?euid=6937355a874b456e9accc9fa8094541f&bu=43654309369&cp=1&sojTags=bu=bu

 

eBay Handle: viper744

 

Name: William Malina

 

Location: Illinois

 

 

 

Sold this guy a CGC book and even though it clearly says in all my auctions no returns on CGC graded books he filed a claim on me because he disagreed with the CGC grade.

 

His reasons for the book not being the grade were OCD frustrating.

 

His name seemed very familiar as I remember this guy being a problem years ago.

 

I knew eBay would force me to take it back so I am just getting the book back and will just sell it to someone else.

 

Accept his bids at your own risk but for me he is blocked.

 

John

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http://www.ebay.com/usr/viper744?euid=6937355a874b456e9accc9fa8094541f&bu=43654309369&cp=1&sojTags=bu=bu

 

eBay Handle: viper744

 

Name: William Malina

 

Location: Illinois

 

 

 

Sold this guy a CGC book and even though it clearly says in all my auctions no returns on CGC graded books he filed a claim on me because he disagreed with the CGC grade.

 

His reasons for the book not being the grade were OCD frustrating.

 

His name seemed very familiar as I remember this guy being a problem years ago.

 

I knew eBay would force me to take it back so I am just getting the book back and will just sell it to someone else.

 

Accept his bids at your own risk but for me he is blocked.

 

John

 

What town?

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http://www.ebay.com/usr/viper744?euid=6937355a874b456e9accc9fa8094541f&bu=43654309369&cp=1&sojTags=bu=bu

 

eBay Handle: viper744

 

Name: William Malina

 

Location: Illinois

 

 

 

Sold this guy a CGC book and even though it clearly says in all my auctions no returns on CGC graded books he filed a claim on me because he disagreed with the CGC grade.

 

His reasons for the book not being the grade were OCD frustrating.

 

His name seemed very familiar as I remember this guy being a problem years ago.

 

I knew eBay would force me to take it back so I am just getting the book back and will just sell it to someone else.

 

Accept his bids at your own risk but for me he is blocked.

 

John

 

I highly suggest you delete his name.

 

 

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eBay Handle: filter81

 

Name: "Adam"

 

Location: Rochester, New York

 

Item in question:

 

Captain America 255 CGC 9.8 NM/MT WP

 

Saw this book listed last night with a starting bid of $9.99. I entered a starting bid of $10. About an hour later, I received a notice stating that my bid had been cancelled and the reason given was, "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available." I have been an eBay member since 1997 and I wasn't born yesterday. filter81 did a back door deal with someone.

 

I've attempted to contact the seller via eBay and none of my messages are being responded to.

 

So please be cautious when placing any eBay bids with this unethical seller.

 

:o My understanding is that he is a very well respected member of this community. Sometimes these things happen especially when you sell many books in different venues. Not making excuses but seems like you might be making a mountain out of a molehill by adding him here.

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I'm not sure that it is illegal to do what filter81 did. Many dealers will make a deal if the offer is high enough. I have bid on many of his listings but usually get outbid and seldom see the listing pulled.

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eBay Handle: filter81

 

Name: "Adam"

 

Location: Rochester, New York

 

Item in question:

 

Captain America 255 CGC 9.8 NM/MT WP

 

Saw this book listed last night with a starting bid of $9.99. I entered a starting bid of $10. About an hour later, I received a notice stating that my bid had been cancelled and the reason given was, "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available." I have been an eBay member since 1997 and I wasn't born yesterday. filter81 did a back door deal with someone.

 

I've attempted to contact the seller via eBay and none of my messages are being responded to.

 

So please be cautious when placing any eBay bids with this unethical seller.

 

Wow, did you pick the wrong place to post this :facepalm: Plus you have no proof of anything and you lost out on nothing, so you should apologize to Adam and move on.

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http://www.ebay.com/usr/viper744?euid=6937355a874b456e9accc9fa8094541f&bu=43654309369&cp=1&sojTags=bu=bu

 

eBay Handle: viper744

 

Name: William Malina

 

Location: Illinois

 

 

 

Sold this guy a CGC book and even though it clearly says in all my auctions no returns on CGC graded books he filed a claim on me because he disagreed with the CGC grade.

 

His reasons for the book not being the grade were OCD frustrating.

 

His name seemed very familiar as I remember this guy being a problem years ago.

 

I knew eBay would force me to take it back so I am just getting the book back and will just sell it to someone else.

 

Accept his bids at your own risk but for me he is blocked.

 

John

 

I highly suggest you delete his name.

 

 

Why is that?

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eBay Handle: filter81

 

Name: "Adam"

 

Location: Rochester, New York

 

Item in question:

 

Captain America 255 CGC 9.8 NM/MT WP

 

Saw this book listed last night with a starting bid of $9.99. I entered a starting bid of $10. About an hour later, I received a notice stating that my bid had been cancelled and the reason given was, "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available." I have been an eBay member since 1997 and I wasn't born yesterday. filter81 did a back door deal with someone.

 

I've attempted to contact the seller via eBay and none of my messages are being responded to.

 

So please be cautious when placing any eBay bids with this unethical seller.

 

Wow, did you pick the wrong place to post this :facepalm: Plus you have no proof of anything and you lost out on nothing, so you should apologize to Adam and move on.

 

Wow, guy just posted negative comments in Filters Kudo's thread. Dude, you really need to stop, delete those comments, apologize and move on. Also, what is YOUR eBay handle?

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I have received a message from Adam. He wrote: We accidentally had some books get listed on ebay on the wrong date and time which is why we ended all the listings within an hour of them being listed." Situation resolved.

 

My apologies to Adam and his forum supporters.

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eBay Handle: filter81

 

Name: "Adam"

 

Location: Rochester, New York

 

Item in question:

 

Captain America 255 CGC 9.8 NM/MT WP

 

Saw this book listed last night with a starting bid of $9.99. I entered a starting bid of $10. About an hour later, I received a notice stating that my bid had been cancelled and the reason given was, "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available." I have been an eBay member since 1997 and I wasn't born yesterday. filter81 did a back door deal with someone.

 

I've attempted to contact the seller via eBay and none of my messages are being responded to.

 

So please be cautious when placing any eBay bids with this unethical seller.

 

Wow, did you pick the wrong place to post this :facepalm: Plus you have no proof of anything and you lost out on nothing, so you should apologize to Adam and move on.

 

Wow, guy just posted negative comments in Filters Kudo's thread. Dude, you really need to stop, delete those comments, apologize and move on. Also, what is YOUR eBay handle?

 

From the auction link I'd say his eBay ID is close to the ID he's using here. If you see anyone with working and dog in their name with 1777 positive FB I'd say that's him.

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Is there a way for sellers to put a note when they cancel a bid? I wonder what the reaction would have been to that post if it wasn't a board member.

 

The problem is that Ebay used to let you write whatever you wanted so you could explain. Now I believe they only let you chose from 3 canned responses.

 

Certainly not ideal. Does the seller know the identity to be able to send a separate message?

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eBay Handle: filter81

 

Name: "Adam"

 

Location: Rochester, New York

 

Item in question:

 

Captain America 255 CGC 9.8 NM/MT WP

 

Saw this book listed last night with a starting bid of $9.99. I entered a starting bid of $10. About an hour later, I received a notice stating that my bid had been cancelled and the reason given was, "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available." I have been an eBay member since 1997 and I wasn't born yesterday. filter81 did a back door deal with someone.

 

I've attempted to contact the seller via eBay and none of my messages are being responded to.

 

So please be cautious when placing any eBay bids with this unethical seller.

 

:o My understanding is that he is a very well respected member of this community. Sometimes these things happen especially when you sell many books in different venues. Not making excuses but seems like you might be making a mountain out of a molehill by adding him here.

 

I wasn't sure if I should post this (I don't want to beat a dead horse, Jim has already written me and apologized so as far as I'm concerned, over and done with) But just so that there are no misunderstandings, since I don't want anyone thinking there are or were any shenanigans going on, I figure I should respond. (Thank you to everyone who chimed in earlier today while I had limited computer access)

 

We were set up at the Nickel City Comic Convention this weekend. Prior to leaving I had been working on listing some no reserve eBay auctions (including the Cap 255) but since I didn't finish them I scheduled them for a random later date and forgot to reschedule them. They were never intended to go off last night. (we aren't talking big books, so I would have left them up, but we will be in Chicago next week and unable to ship them when they would have ended, so when we got the notifications that a few books went live on eBay last night, we ended the listings immediately with the intention of relisting the books when we got home from Chicago in a week and a half or so. I had no idea that one of the listings (Captain America 255 CGC 9.8) had already received a bid of $10 before the auction was cancelled.

 

The first time I was made aware a bid had been cancelled was when Jim wrote us this E-mail through eBay at 9:40 AM this morning.

 

Good Morning,

 

I placed a bid on your Cap 255 CGC 9.8 and found out just now my bid was cancelled. And now the "Item is no longer available?" What gives?

 

Thank you.

 

(Unfortunately 9:30 AM was when the Nickel City show opened today and while we were setting up I wasn't able to check my E-mail right away)

 

That message was followed up by the next message from Jim at 10:42 AM saying:

 

"Me again. I see you are a member on the CGC chat boards. I also see you have a feedback thread. If I don't receive an explanation as to why you cancelled my bid (other than the item is no longer available), I will post in said feedback thread as to what happened and questioning your ethics."

 

By the time I was able to step away from the booth long enough to respond to Jim's concerns and explain to him what happened, (which didn't occur until an hour or so later) apparently he had already posted in this thread and in my kudos thread (both posts he has since deleted.)

 

He did send me this follow up Email an hour later:

 

"Adam, please accept my apologies. As for the ethics, when I see a seller cancel a bid and then see the item is no longer available, I immediately think that a behind the scenes deal was done. I spoke with an eBay rep this morning and as she explained it to me, if a seller lists an item for auction and doesn't see it through until the auction end, then the seller should not have listed it in the first place. But like you said, your listing post was an accident. Sorry for the ruckus. I will remove my posts.

 

Again, my sincerest of apologies.

 

Jim"

 

So as far as I'm concerned, over and done with now, and I believe Jim feels the same way. So in the end no harm done. I just thought it was important to post because I didn't want anyone thinking any eBay rules were being broken or that anything unethical was going on. Hope this clears everything up but I'm happy to answer any questions if it doesn't. :foryou:

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